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That's it? No vaccine upgrades?
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Aug 20, 2021 23:53:32   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
It's like buying cameras, there's always a new & improved version right around the corner!

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Aug 21, 2021 10:02:08   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
RightOnPhotography wrote:
I have a continuous argument with my much younger relative who is a staunch antivaxxer.
Could you please quote a source of this statistical data? This will help me to maybe win the argument or at least to shut him up. Thanks.


Here is a link to a presentation that includes this data:
Slide #3 in this presentation shows the data in graphic form (unvaccinated have 8x infection rates, 25x hospitalization rates and 25x death rate compared to vaccinated), and cites a reference for the data at the bottom of the slide:

https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/8a726408-07bd-46bd-a945-3af0ae2f3c37/note/57c98604-3b54-44f0-8b44-b148d8f75165.#page=1?utm_source=mahoning%20matters&utm_campaign=mahoning%20matters&utm_medium=referral

Good luck with your relative, and hope you both stay safe.

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Aug 21, 2021 10:14:42   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
RightOnPhotography wrote:
Please define "natural immunity". Thanks.
Natural immunity means immunity that develops in response to having had an infection.
robertjerl wrote:
natural resistance/immunity. Which in almost all cases far outclasses vaccine induced immunity/resistance.
But not in the case of Covid-19, perhaps because of evolving variants like Delta, which makes sense if antibodies to the original Covid strain or the alpha strain, for example, are less effective against the Delta strain. With Covid, being vaccinated after having had Covid appears to provide more immune protection than natural immunity alone. As I posted earlier, a study in Kentucky showed that the risk of Covid-19 survivors becoming re-infected with Covid-19 was 2.34 times more common in unvaccinated people who had recovered from Covid-19 infection, compared to individuals who had been vaccinated after their recovery from Covid-19.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm?s_cid=mm7032e1_w

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Aug 21, 2021 10:39:55   #
jblazar Loc: Sunnyvale, CA
 
robertjerl wrote:
You had it, or a very close relative, and survived and now have natural resistance/immunity. Which in almost all cases far outclasses vaccine induced immunity/resistance.


Actually, the vaccine provides significantly better immunity than having had COVID.

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