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Aug 15, 2021 13:50:38   #
Keystoner
 
Thank you Mundy

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Aug 15, 2021 13:58:23   #
Keystoner
 
Thanks E. L. I guess a good zoom would work well, but I'm also realizing thanks to everyone's advice, is that I don't really need the fastest lens.
I don't own a true prime lens yet, that's why I was looking at a fixed focal length lens.
Thank again

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Aug 15, 2021 14:51:28   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
Remember the OP said "lens for small dark intimate setting ". That suggests a relatively fast lens, stopped down a stop or two. Respect for other patron's privacy demands a shallow DOF.
Answers concerning stage situations don't address the question.

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Aug 15, 2021 17:05:13   #
mundy-F2 Loc: Chicago suburban area
 
Architect1776 wrote:
The depth of the band?
Don't go much do you?


It works fine if you want the picture of the headliner, not the backup band.
As I stated earlier, I shoot film, not digital, so my equipment works just fine.
Mundy.

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Aug 15, 2021 17:10:24   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
What focal length did you try? Was it a good length? Would a better aperture help? Would a flash have helped?

WHAT WERE YOU DISSATISFIED WITH ????

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Aug 15, 2021 17:16:36   #
mundy-F2 Loc: Chicago suburban area
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
There is no one lens/focal lenght/speed combination for every scenario in a club venue. Your choice also depends on the kind of shots you want to make- all over stage scenes, closeups of performers, incorporating more or less depth of field and the existing lighting on the stage. If it is a very small and intimate setting, space might be an issue so a wide-angle lens may be required. If you want to get a tight shot of a musician or other performer a longer lens may be required.

The super fast lenses, perhaps, are a holdover from the film ear and the concept of "shooting a black cat in a coal mine at midnight" with fast lenses and seriously pushed film. Results were grainy and lacking in shadow detail. The effect was rather nice in smoke-filled jazz clubs. Nowadays, with most current digital cameras, you can increase the ISO settings without really bad noise and many stages are adequately lighted, oftentimes with coloured gels, etc.

Read what Gene wrote about DOP and lens performance.

The last commercial assignment I had of this kind was for a Montreal jazz club owner who wanted me to create a gallery of 16x20 black and white prints for his lobby. He had booked in some "big name" acts over the course of a year and wanted each print autographed by the performers. At the time I was shooting the film in Leica gear- Tri-X in Acufine at ISO 800. 2 bodies and 3 lenses 35mm, 50mm and 90mm. My fastest lens was an f/1.0 bit I seldom used it wide open.

Sometimes I would come in for a rehearsal and have run of the room. The best shots, however, were made during the 2nd or last show when the musicians and the audience were more animated. Sometimes the normal and longer focal length was handy for shoot live shows without interfering withte the audience.

Nowadays, I handle the occasional theatrical shoot with a zoom lens including the aforementioned focal lengths.
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That's all nice if you shoot digital with almost unlimited ASA (ISO). However as I noted earlier, I only shoot film, so my recommendations where based on what I use. Nevertheless, your zoom lens works for digital. I will give it a shot when I move to digital.
Mundy

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Aug 15, 2021 18:46:03   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Keystoner wrote:
Can anyone give me some ideas on the best fixed prime lens for small dark intimate setting night clubs? I was thinking Sony 24mm 1.4, Sony 35mm 1.4 or Sony 85mm


On a full frame body, I'd use a 35mm f/1.4 and an 85mm f/1.4-f/1.8 or so.

I list two, because plenty happens at your table as well as on a stage (as in a comedy club or jazz club).

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Aug 15, 2021 18:51:45   #
Keystoner
 
Thank you

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Aug 15, 2021 18:52:57   #
Keystoner
 
I haven't tried anything yet, but thank you

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Aug 16, 2021 02:43:34   #
mundy-F2 Loc: Chicago suburban area
 
burkphoto wrote:
On a full frame body, I'd use a 35mm f/1.4 and an 85mm f/1.4-f/1.8 or so.

I list two, because plenty happens at your table as well as on a stage (as in a comedy club or jazz club).


Both are my selections. I agree with the off-stage pictures of the audience. I think the pictures of the crowd are much like taking street pictures.
Mundy

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Aug 16, 2021 04:17:54   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
This lens may prove the most suitable to the conditions of low light illuminating individuals and small groups close to the camera. I suggest you try it out before the event.
Mac wrote:
I suggest the 24mm f/1.4

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Aug 16, 2021 09:18:44   #
Keystoner
 
I'm not dissatisfied with anything.

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Aug 16, 2021 14:20:26   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Keystoner wrote:
I'm not dissatisfied with anything.


If you click "Quote Reply" under the post you are responding to, we can tell who you are addressing.

If you are satisfied, what are you trying to accomplish with an upgrade?

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Aug 16, 2021 14:33:13   #
Keystoner
 
PHRubin wrote:
If you click "Quote Reply" under the post you are responding to, we can tell who you are addressing.

If you are satisfied, what are you trying to accomplish with an upgrade?


I'm trying to figure the best fixed prime lens to photograph musicians in small club settings.

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Aug 16, 2021 14:48:15   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Keystoner wrote:
I'm trying to figure the best fixed prime lens to photograph musicians in small club settings.


The a7iii is better in low light than the a6300.(https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/compare/Sony_A6300_vs_Sony_A7_III/BHitems/1399788-REG_1394217-REG)

I'm only guessing, but since I'd use a 28mm on my film camera, the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 DC DN might be the one for you.

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