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Nov 13, 2011 09:05:20   #
rfbccb Loc: Central Mississippi
 
It is all reality. If you can afford it, do it. If not use what you have to the best of your ablity

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Nov 13, 2011 09:05:20   #
rfbccb Loc: Central Mississippi
 
It is all reality. If you can afford it, do it. If not use what you have to the best of your ablity

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Nov 13, 2011 09:09:49   #
chapelbill
 
How does the "IS" work?

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Nov 13, 2011 09:49:50   #
fly boy
 
pigpen wrote:
dfalk wrote:
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I don't own this lens, but was doing research on it. I was surprised in several reviews I read (and I mean several), they said the 70-200L 2.8 ($1350) was actually sharper than this lens because of the extra glass (elements) required for the IS.


Perhaps. But I bet most of us wouldn't be able to tell the difference. We would be able to see the camera shake induced softness from not having the IS. I have the 70-200L 2.8 IS II and have no regrets.


I would love that lens, just not being a pro, I don't know if I could justify the extra $1,100 to my wife. Somehow I can already hear in my head something like, "I want a new couch!" LOL
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All of you guys are funny. Hey, I bought my wife a new couch, I sold my boat. So, do I qualify for a Canon "L" series lens of my choice. Thanks to all of you who have given me valuable input to digest. As far as the 5D and the 7D, my choice for future at this time will be the 7D which has a higher rate of fps. Most of my photos will be taken outside. I'm just not into portraits. Maybe a few. Since I bought my wife her new couch, maybe she will buy me that lens I desire for Christmas.

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Nov 13, 2011 09:55:34   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
It strikes me odd that a grown person has the time to write such a wish list, with pictures, like a 5 year old would make a list for Santa. Just work, save money, and buy it. That would be the grown up thing to do but then could we count on you to not brag about it. Probably not.

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Nov 13, 2011 10:06:36   #
fly boy
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
It strikes me odd that a grown person has the time to write such a wish list, with pictures, like a 5 year old would make a list for Santa. Just work, save money, and buy it. That would be the grown up thing to do but then could we count on you to not brag about it. Probably not.


Honestly, I have the funds to pay for the lens right now. I am going to a seminar next week end at Camera Mart in Pontiac Michigan where representatives from many companies will be there. It is a 2-day seminar of their individual products. I do have some questions for the Canon rep. I just need some additional info from the rep. Since this is a major purchase, I wish not to make a mistake in my decision and end up with something that will collect dust.

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Nov 13, 2011 10:25:29   #
datsmar Loc: minnesota
 
i have the 7d and love i allso have one of the first 70-200 2.8 L to come out have got many nice shots with it.i just got the canon 24-70 2.8 and am pleased with it vary sharp
i hope you enjoy nthem
dave

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Nov 13, 2011 11:12:51   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
Two products I would not rely on Consumer Reports reviews .... autos and cameras ... if you want a credible camera review and comparison .... google DP REVIEW SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON .... also ... there is not much of a difference between the 60D and the 7D .. the 60D came out a year after the 7D

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Nov 13, 2011 11:12:55   #
alm Loc: Springfield Mo
 
Gerald W. wrote:
This will be my ultimate purchase:

Canon EOS 7D
18.0 Megapixel CMOS Sensor and Dual DIGIC 4 Image Processors for high image quality and speed.
ISO 100-6400 (expandable to 12,800) for shooting from bright to dim light.
8.0 fps continuous shooting up to 126 Large/JPEGs with UDMA CF card and 15 RAW.
Advanced movie mode with manual exposure control and selectable frame rates: 1920 x 1080 (Full HD): 30p (29.97) / 24p (23.976) / 25p, 1280 x 720 (HD): 60p (59.94) / 50p, 640 x 480 (SD): 60p (59.94) / 50p.
Intelligent Viewfinder with 100% field of view, wide viewing angle of 29.4°, high magnification of 1.0, intelligent viewfinder with glass pentaprism and an overlaid LCD display in viewfinder supports various shooting styles.
New 19-point, all cross-type AF system equipped with dual diagonal cross-type sensors in center at f/2.8 and f/5.6 and AF area selection modes to match various shooting situations.
iFCL Metering with 63 zone dual-layer metering sensor that utilizes AF and color information for optimizing exposure and image quality.
Magnesium body with shutter durability up to 150,000 cycles and exclusive dust and weather resistance.
Maximum resolution for any application.
The EOS 7D features a Canon-designed 18.0 Megapixel APS-C size CMOS sensor that captures such a high level of resolution it's easy to crop images for enlargement without concern of losing detail. A major factor in reducing noise, the CMOS sensor assures that images shot at highest sensitivity will be remarkably smooth. Dual DIGIC 4 Image Processors ensure that images are captured, processed and saved with remarkable speed. The EOS 7D's ability to capture and process data of images shot at 18.0 Megapixels at 8 fps, as well as Face Detection Live Mode, Full HD video recording, Auto Lighting Optimizer and Lens Peripheral optimization are all possible thanks to the Dual DIGIC 4 Image Processors.



Canon EF 70200MM F/2.8L IS II USM Telephoto Zoom Lens




Improving upon one of the most celebrated lenses in the Canon EF line is no easy feat, but Canon has done just that. The EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM increases the speed, performance and optical quality of the EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS USM while maintaining all of the characteristics that have made it a legend for professionals and advanced amateurs alike. The EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM features one fluorite and five UD elements for increased optical quality and reduced chromatic aberration. It has a minimum focusing distance of 1.2m/3.9 ft. at all zoom settings, which is useful for photographers in smaller spaces trying to get closer to a subject. It features a next-generation Optical Image Stabilizer, providing up to 4 stops of correction at all focal lengths. And as with all L-series lenses, the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM is dust- and moisture-resistant and designed for use in the challenging environments typical of rigorous professional use.
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A great combination that will give you good results. In addition to the suggestion already made of the 1.4 extender I am also using the 2.0 with tack sharp results.

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Nov 13, 2011 11:16:52   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
It is the photographer and not the camera. Remember, Eisenstadt, Cappa, Lang, etc shot with very simple cameras. One's that had to use hand held light meters and basically either a 35, 50, 90 or 135 lens. They shot with b&w film rated at about 200 ASA and used little of no flash. They hand held without IS and did so by learning how to breath or prop against a stable object.

Would their photographs been better with a digital camera? Probably not. There photo decisions were based on what they saw not on their equipment.

What did they use Rollie (Eisenstadt like that it made the head more round than oval), Leica with screw mount, speed graphic, etc.

Go out and shoot, learn to see and your pictures will be great.

The ole sarg

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Nov 13, 2011 11:22:39   #
gregoryalanmccorkle Loc: Seattle, Washington
 
I own both the 7D and 5DmkII and just recently put my name on the list for the 1D-X. Cannon has taken the best of both bodies, combinand them and made huge improvements. As a sports shooter I can't wait to get my hands on it (sometime in the spring).

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Nov 13, 2011 12:21:37   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
I am happy for you. Sounds like a great camera and lens combo!

That said, don't let the technology of what "the camera can do" override what you the photographer can do......Which, I think happens often.

Friend of mine took a workshop with Freeman Patterson (well known guy) and was shocked to find that Patterson was using an old and very worn Minolta (yes, digital was available then), battered old tripod, and old lenses.........and obtained extraordinary images.

Point: the camera is only a tool. And its easy to forget that the best lens is often your feet and the best camera is the one you happen to have.

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Nov 13, 2011 12:30:09   #
gregoryalanmccorkle Loc: Seattle, Washington
 
Problem is with sports photography or any other subject that moves at a high rate of speed you need the fastest shutter and lens combination you can assemble. I can assure you that shooters for SI or Getty are going to be getting the 1D-X.

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Nov 13, 2011 12:35:40   #
guy145 Loc: Norridge IL
 
I too have a 7D. I use 4 different lens with it, 35mm f2, 85mm f1.8, 17-85 zoom w/macro/image stabilizer f4-5.6 and 75-300 4-5.6 zoom. I use the 17-85 the most. I got 17-85 at circut city when they closing down. I went thier everyday to check the price, when it came down $198 I bought it. I find the 35mm and 85mm give the sharpest pictures. The 75-300mm zoom works great too. I started out with a 30D(6mp) dslr and a few years later steped up to XSi(12mp). I bought the XSi body only and used the 18-55mm lens from the30D.

I started out with (30 years ago) a AT-1 with 4 lens 28mm,50mm,75-150 w/2x double and 500mm cat. Took lot of B&W because I developed my own film. I bought a lens converter, FD to EF and can use the lens on dslr w/o auto focuse.

I also play with a bronica med format 2.25X1.75 film camra. I have 40mm, 75mm and 150mm to help.

I can scan all my film on a epson V500.

I can play for hours with my toys and have so much fun now that I am retired for the last 11years.

Photography Is only my hobby I was a butcher for 35 years.

Guy

I also collect old camras I find in garage sales. you be surprized what you find for 20bucks.

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Nov 13, 2011 12:39:56   #
dfalk Loc: Chugiak, Alaska
 
Ageless wrote:
Actually the Canon 60D is rated better than the 7D and half the price. I would think the 60D would be the baby 7D. I just bought the 60D and am learning the the camera. It takes great pictures and wouldn't trade it for anything.


There is some debate about how reliable CR is.

Ken Rockwell considers the 7D the "the best camera Canon has made, second only to the 5D Mk II". This from a photographer.

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