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Jul 29, 2021 10:12:33   #
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Linda From Maine wrote:
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Observation re billnikon's example: look along and just above the tree line. The fog has become muddy colored and unrealistic IMO.

It’s not just the muddy fog. The cloud reflections are wrong. The lighting is wrong. The more drama thaz pumped in, the more blatantly bogus these sorts of things look.

You can fix flaws and details in a photo but you can seldom grossly upgrade a photo that was hardly worth a second glance in the first place.

(BTW, the image below is edited in my phone. The halos in the reflection come from the image posted by the OP as the phone has no selection tool.)
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Jul 29, 2021 10:14:44   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
nikonbrain wrote:
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1 have been turning white skies blue for at least 5 years now . they do not look like "blue stuff" its is done with the "magic wand " by selecting the darkest part of the sky and changing the color with the path image , adjustments , color balance and adjust to your liking . the following image was done this way on a all white and grey sky making my selection on the darker part of the sky using the magic wand with tolerance set at about 30 .
This is wonderful! Mostly because the subject matter is so colorful and happy, it demands a blue sky!

Other subjects may do well as silhouettes, black and white, high key, a texture instead of a sky - or if going for most realism, just leaving as shot.

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Jul 29, 2021 10:17:02   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
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...You can fix flaws in a photo but you can seldom grossly upgrade a photo that wasn’t really worth a second glance in the first place.
I personally would go for more playful processing than an "upgrade," but much depends on what we're starting with - including the photographer's intent

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Jul 29, 2021 10:22:11   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
Thanks but I still hate driving 100 miles or more on a overcast day to do landscapes so I worked on ways to mitigate the overcast sky . with the new sky replacement it is much easier . i find myself shooting skies on beautiful sunny Florida days .

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Jul 29, 2021 10:25:04   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
nikonbrain wrote:
Thanks but I still hate driving 100 miles or more on a overcast day to do landscapes so I worked on ways to mitigate the overcast sky . with the new sky replacement it is much easier . i find myself shooting skies on beautiful sunny Florida days .
I am all about a photographer's right to manipulate however they desire. It's called "playful pp" in my circle

In case you mis-interpreted, my second paragraph wasn't directed to you or your pic. It was a general list of possibilities, since we don't know what the OP's photo is.

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Jul 29, 2021 10:40:42   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I am all about a photographer's right to manipulate however they desire. It's called "playful pp" in my circle

In case you mis-interpreted, my second paragraph wasn't directed to you or your pic. It was a general list of possibilities, since we don't know what the OP's photo is.


Oh no I was talking about High Key as I am not a Fan of that shooting technique . I just hate the new standard of high key for weddings . To me it is for amateur's doing weddings it is just shoot overexposed and call themselves photographers if I did that in my apprenticeship as a wedding photographer in the 1970s i would have been fired . Back then high key was reserved for studio work in ads for women's makeup and fashion . and was done very well not looking like the blown images of todays so called wedding photographers doing what they call high key. .

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Jul 29, 2021 10:45:40   #
MCHUGH Loc: Jacksonville, Texas
 
Many years ago I had a customer that brought in an old B&W of the home and yard where they were born. They wanted it in color so I oil tinted it. When I tried to do the sky it looked very bad and I did not know what to do. Fortunately I had another customer come in that I knew very well that was a professional artist. I ask her what I was doing wrong that made it look so bad and she immediately said that it was the sky. I had only blue in the sky and sky is not just blue and artist know to add a very small amount of color from all over the scene to the sky. I did what she said and it looked great. I have used this since then in situations like yours and it worked even in digital.

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Jul 29, 2021 10:51:15   #
knutte
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
There are sky replacement options in many types of editing software and software plug-ins. The only way to use them effectively, so that the effect does not look artificial, is to choose a pre-set sky effect that adds a bit of colour to texture to your overcast sky and alter the tonality and colour of the scene to match the skyscape you select.

If you select a skyscape that has rich blue skies with white puffy clouds, the light on the landscape will be incompatible with overcast or hazy sky conditions.

Those who have a "purist" philsosphy about the authenticity of photograher disagree with the techniques. If applied skillfully it can be effective. It's fun to experiment with and you might come up with somethg that pleases you.

I do not use this routinely, however, it comes in handy on commercial shoots of architecture, etc. where there is a deadline and the is no time or opportunity to revisit the site for a re-shoot. It looks OK in a real estate to travel brochure- it ain't fine art.
There are sky replacement options in many types of... (show quote)


When are they coming out with foreground replacements?

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Jul 29, 2021 10:54:18   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
knutte wrote:
When are they coming out with foreground replacements?


I have been swapping heads in group shots for many years.

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Jul 29, 2021 11:18:02   #
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MCHUGH wrote:
Many years ago I had a customer that brought in an old B&W of the home and yard where they were born. They wanted it in color so I oil tinted it. When I tried to do the sky it looked very bad and I did not know what to do. Fortunately I had another customer come in that I knew very well that was a professional artist. I ask her what I was doing wrong that made it look so bad and she immediately said that it was the sky. I had only blue in the sky and sky is not just blue and artist know to add a very small amount of color from all over the scene to the sky. I did what she said and it looked great. I have used this since then in situations like yours and it worked even in digital.
Many years ago I had a customer that brought in an... (show quote)

Good for you. Same thing with “white” areas intended to be kept as “white”. There’s usually a lot of tints involved in white. It’s seldom really pure cuz it’s so vulnerable to picking up colors from the environment. Look at white clothes or clouds in paintings and you’ll see plenty of nonwhite brush strokes.
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Jul 29, 2021 11:44:09   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
For the non-purists out there, I occasionally use the Sky Replacement filter in Luminar. It’s gotten better and better with each new version.
Download the free trial of Luminar AI, and check it out.

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Jul 29, 2021 11:49:40   #
epd1947
 
revhen wrote:
I have a fine photo but the sky is white. It was cloudy when I took it so the white cloud layer is the sky. I use Corel's Paint Shop Pro. What can I do to make the sky blue?


Try the sky replacement feature in Luminar AI

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Jul 29, 2021 11:54:51   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Another tip to avoid fake-looking all-blue: create a gradient as UHH user Anvil did in this share topic a couple of years ago:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-576592-3.html#9837633

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Jul 29, 2021 12:47:40   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
User ID wrote:
Good for you. Same thing with “white” areas intended to be kept as “white”. There’s usually a lot of tints involved in white. It’s seldom really pure cuz it’s so vulnerable to picking up colors from the environment. Look at white clothes or clouds in paintings and you’ll see plenty of nonwhite brush strokes.
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Awesome shots ☀️✳️✳️☀️

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Jul 29, 2021 13:00:05   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
User ID wrote:
It’s not just the muddy fog. The cloud reflections are wrong. The lighting is wrong. The more drama thaz pumped in, the more blatantly bogus these sorts of things look.

You can fix flaws and details in a photo but you can seldom grossly upgrade a photo that was hardly worth a second glance in the first place.

(BTW, the image below is edited in my phone. The halos in the reflection come from the image posted by the OP as the phone has no selection tool.)
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Beautiful 🖤✳️🖤

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