Smartphone Cameras vs Dedicated
Jul 26, 2021 13:51:39 #
Bobspez wrote:
What's the highest equivalent focal length you can get with your smartphones?
It goes to 30x but I would not take it beyond 10x.
Jul 26, 2021 13:59:46 #
kb6kgx wrote:
Are there that many users out there who use the "scene" features such as "miniature", etc.? Yet, today's cameras are full of them.
I doubt it.
Yes they are. Gee-whiz-band widgets to attract customers?
"So-and-so has this cool thing on his phone....."
I do like the aid that tells me move UP or DOWN as I'm taking a pano with my phone...
Jul 26, 2021 13:59:48 #
MrBob wrote:
Look at the Market Reverend, most users want to send selfies or quick vacation pics to friends and family. The IQ of these pics are more than enough for these users.
Yup you are right of course, seeing the facebook posts is enough to make that true. Fine with me.
Jul 26, 2021 14:04:29 #
kb6kgx wrote:
Very true. Even the best, top-of-the-line, most expensive smartphone can't do what a 200-500 can do.
They can't for now, but they will.
Think of the miniaturization taking place today and where things might be in just a few short years. Cameras in orbit (not just a few hundred yards away from the subject) can produce astonishingly detailed images with ease. A friend has a geomapping business; what used to require a twin engine aircraft with a 3 million dollar camera, can now be done with tools 1/100th that cost, and it will soon be 1/1000th. Drones can map to within 1cm. Part B of this point is that another friend's Hasselblad system, which in the 70's cost him the equivalent of better than two mid-value cars, gathers dust on the shelves in his library, and is, relatively speaking, almost valueless.
For now it serves you well, and at some point not in the distant future, your 200-500 lens will be a historical curiousity, an expensive paperweight.
Personally, I can remember my father being delighted with his fancy new & highly advanced electronic calculator, that amazingly had a percentage key.
Times change.
Jul 26, 2021 14:54:47 #
fforbes
Loc: Florida
The best camera is the one you have with you. Glad my phone takes pretty credible shots when I don't have my mirrorless pro gear along.
Jul 26, 2021 14:54:57 #
fforbes
Loc: Florida
The best camera is the one you have with you. Glad my phone takes pretty credible shots when I don't have my mirrorless pro gear along.
Jul 26, 2021 14:57:48 #
Bobspez wrote:
Smart phones do not have superzoom lenses. I don't believe you can set iso, fps, shutter speed and aperture on a smart phone. You cant tweak jpegs like you can a raw image. They give you the ability to shoot auto, but sometimes auto doesn't do the job, especially when you want to decide things like exposure, depth of field, etc. Most people are happy with their smart phones because they don't care if they don't have the above features, or may not have any knowledge of them.
Sure you can. I can shoot raw with my cellphone (not even an iphone). I can set ISO, shutter speed, etc. No, it's not a SLR camera, but I can do all of that.
Jul 26, 2021 15:04:22 #
fetzler
Loc: North West PA
alexol wrote:
They can't for now, but they will. br br Think ... (show quote)
Indeed technology does change with time but not all get truly better. That Hassleblad takes as good of pictures (and It could produce very fine images) as it did back in the '70s Film is a expensive now and was also in the past.
The required focal length to produce a given FOV is determined by the sensor size. Smaller sensors allow one to use shorter focal length lenses. Compare a 300 mm full frame lens to a 150mm m4/3 lens. Smaller sensors do have tradeoffs, however. Sensor noise is one problem.
The size of a pixel in my D7200 is 4 microns. Optics would suggest the smallest pixel should be a bit greater than a wavelength of light or about 1 micron. Smaller pixels do have some trade offs as well. I think we are approaching a physical limit that is set by physics.
Large format film cameras can produce excellent photos I have portraits that are more than 100 years old that are exquisite and have a quality that cannot be easily matched with modern cameras. To be sure part of the quality of these photos reflects the skill of the photographer.
Jul 26, 2021 15:20:38 #
alexol wrote:
"What's the highest equivalent focal length y... (show quote)
Just for the record: the Samsung Galaxy 21 Ultra has 0.5, 1x, 3x, and 10x Optical cameras.
Jul 26, 2021 15:53:37 #
BebuLamar wrote:
For me a "Dedicated" still camera should not do video.
I d^mn sure agree with that. And I don't like paying for somethig I never use! Harry
Jul 26, 2021 16:14:49 #
tramsey wrote:
I use the proper tool for the specific job. I don't use my slip joint pliers to pull a tooth and I don't use a telephone to take a picture. Granted some of them are getting pretty good. But I'll use a camera to take a picture and a telephone to call some one.
I just reread this and boy do I sound like an old fuddy duddy.
I just reread this and boy do I sound like an old fuddy duddy.
Jul 26, 2021 16:17:51 #
hrblaine wrote:
I d^mn sure agree with that. And I don't like paying for somethig I never use! Harry
Well it's cheaper to have video than not. So you really don't pay for video capability of a still camera today. But my reasoning is that if something dedicated to do something it should do only that and nothing else.
Jul 26, 2021 17:08:26 #
mcacm111 wrote:
Just for the record: the Samsung Galaxy 21 Ultra has 0.5, 1x, 3x, and 10x Optical cameras.
mm equivalents?
10x what?
Jul 26, 2021 17:09:29 #
Jul 26, 2021 17:54:38 #
Samsung S21 Ultra four separate cameras - 35mm full frame equivalents: 2.2mm 13 mm equivalent 0.6x camera; 6.7 mm 24 mm equivalent 1,0x camera; 9 mm 72 mm equivalent 3x camera; 31 mm 240 mm equivalent 10x camera.
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