scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

captivecookie Loc: Washington state

Out of curiosity, can anyone name a medication or vaccine that has no side effects, including death?

tramsey Loc: Texas

OK, so here we have 20 cardiac arrests, 36 strokes, 15 deep vein numbness, 10 Heart attacks and 16 Pulmonary embolisms and 26000 other less serious reactions. Of all the people vaccinated that figure represents, what 01%?
You can use what ever excuse you want the afore mentioned one or another good one is that the FDA hasn't approved it yet and it's stil an emergency vaccination, use which ever you want or use them all and be full covered.
BUT when you are laying in Covid section of the hospital unable to breath without a ventilator stuck down into your lungs don't expect the nurse to come around with a syringe and ask 'would you like your vaccination now?' BECAUSE IT IS A MONTH AND A HALF TO LATE.
The only thing left to do is put your head between your knees and kiss your ____ good bye.

Bad choices = Bad consequences

tusketwedge Loc: Nova Scotia Canada

I had a stroke 18 years ago, diabetic ,74 years old ,took both shots with no side effects what so ever. I'm just happy that I at least have a chance of not catching covid and NOT be part of the 90 percent or more of the the people that are now the spreaders of the virus BECAUSE they would not take the shots.

captivecookie Loc: Washington state

Glad you are okay. I'm having a bit of trouble parsing the 90 percent comment. Can you elaborate a bit?

National Park

I had quadruple by-pass surgery 7 years ago. I had two Moderna shots 6 months ago; no adverse reaction whatsoever execept a sore arm for a day. 163 million Americans have now had both doses--adverse reactions have been minimal. I volunteered at vaccination clinics that over a 3 month period vaccinated nearly 50,000 people. No one had an adverse reaction (other than a couple people fainting because they are generally scared of shots). Not one! How many of those people would have caught covid but for the vaccination? How many of those would be dead, or have long term covid, or passed the disease on to a loved on who would be dead or have long term covid?

tramsey Loc: Texas

This is from WedMD.com There's a link at the bottom

Almost All U.S. COVID-19 Deaths Now in the Unvaccinated
By Damian McNamara
photo of covid 19 virus
June 28, 2021 – If you, a friend or a loved one remain unvaccinated against COVID-19 at this point – for whatever reason – you are at higher risk for dying if you do become infected.

That's the conclusion of a new report The Associated Press released looking at COVID-19 deaths during May 2021.

Of more than 18,000 people who died from COVID-19, for example, only about 150 were fully vaccinated. That's less than 1%.

"Recently I was working in the emergency room [and] I saw a 21-year-old African- American who came in with shortness of breath," says Vino K. Palli, MD, a doctor specializing in emergency medicine, internal medicine and urgent care.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210629/almost-all-us-covid-19-deaths-now-in-the-unvaccinated

captivecookie Loc: Washington state

I'm sorry, but for me, this further obfuscates my question. What are you guys trying to say? Please forget the links and just tell me what you mean. Are you trying to say that if you get vaccinated you are safe? Are you trying to say that if you are vaccinated you are in more danger of deadly side effects than you are in danger of covid? PLEASE ELABORATE.

Rose42

Again, those who have the shot can still spread it and catch it.

sb Loc: Florida's East Coast

Wow - you get your news from "Liberty Dispatch"?

The VAERS reports include ANYTHING that happened in the period after getting a vaccine. A sprained ankle. A stuffy nose. A cold. A headache. A skin rash. Having some diarrhea. Now - SOME of those effects may be vaccine-related, but the VAERS reports do NOT establish any kind of causal relationship and cannot be taken out of context, as this article does..

This article discusses how many reports of heart attacks, etc, happened to veterans after getting the vaccine. To even begin to question a cause-and-effect relationship, you need to ask: "among how many recipients"? (This article leaves that information out). Then you must ask: "Is this an unusually high number among this many veterans of the same age"? What we often find, such as when everyone started reporting that people getting the swine flu vaccine were developing ascending paralysis (Gillian-Barre Syndrome) was that given the number of people who had received that vaccine, the number of cases of ascending paralysis was not any more than would normally happen in that population over that time period.

Same with Viagra - when it first came out there were reports of heart attacks associated with taking it. The FDA looked very critically at this over several years. Who takes Viagra? Men middle aged and up, often with conditions such as high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. These men are by definition in the high-risk group for heart attacks. The FDA found that among men this age the risk of heart attack after taking Viagra was no more than their risk of heart attack on any given day.

Same with the veteran study - WHO are the patients in this study? The VA initially only provided the vaccine to elderly veterans. Many elderly veterans smoke. The risk for heart attack, stroke, and other maladies is very high in this population. So - DOES this vaccine cause serious side effects? At this point in time there is no evidence that it does. I got the vaccine. I most certainly encourage my patients to get the vaccine.

dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida

"Ya pays yur money ya take yur chances." The problems with COVID are more sure and fatal than side effects with vaccines. The republicans have been preaching a philosophy that kills their voters!! Not smart is it?

As grandmotherly Republican Governor Ivey said ... "use your common sense" get the vaccine.
https://www.wionews.com/world/use-your-common-sense-alabama-governor-says-time-to-blame-unvaccinated-people-400415

anotherview Loc: California

Thanks for telling us your firsthand experience with the vaccine.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

Exactly what philosophy have the Republicans been preaching? That it is strictly your decision about whether you should be compelled to put something in your body and not the governments or anyone else's?

ecblackiii Loc: Maryland

Good point! In fact, I still remember the stunning headline of a supermarket tabloid that screamed, "Water Causes Cancer!"