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Oct 29, 2012 01:07:47   #
Tradscot Loc: Cairns, Australia
 
It has been suggested that I should perhaps purchase a "Flash" speedlite unit to complement my camera bag.

The "War Office" has tacitly agreed and so I am looking at the following units:
Canon 430ex II, Nissin Di 622 II and Nissin MF18. Ive long had a hankering for the Canon MR 14EX but sadly, thats not in the war budget.

Main use would be for Macro and my big concern is for simplicity of use/understanding.

Any thought based on experience would be appreciated.
Tradscot

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Oct 29, 2012 01:15:26   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
I strongly recommend that you view the thread entitled Macro Equipment Set-Ups at http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-32754-1.html . You will find photographs of Canon cameras, lens, and illuminations set-ups. You are invited to ask questions (via PM) to any macro-photographer, about pros & cons of their speedlights.

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Oct 29, 2012 01:24:58   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Tradscot wrote:
It has been suggested that I should perhaps purchase a "Flash" speedlite unit to complement my camera bag.

The "War Office" has tacitly agreed and so I am looking at the following units:
Canon 430ex II, Nissin Di 622 II and Nissin MF18. Ive long had a hankering for the Canon MR 14EX but sadly, thats not in the war budget.

Main use would be for Macro and my big concern is for simplicity of use/understanding.

Any thought based on experience would be appreciated.
Tradscot
It has been suggested that I should perhaps purcha... (show quote)


For lighting a macro subject, you will either need a ring flash (MF18) or a way to direct light onto the subject (off-camera cord, slave, reflector, etc.). Maybe the War Department could authorize the additional cost of the Canon MR 14EX by redirecting discretionary or public policy funds; the government does it all the time.

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Oct 29, 2012 01:45:29   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
Mogul wrote:
For lighting a macro subject, you will either need a ring flash (MF18) or a way to direct light onto the subject (off-camera cord, slave, reflector, etc.). Maybe the War Department could authorize the additional cost of the Canon MR 14EX by redirecting discretionary or public policy funds; the government does it all the time.
Your suggestions will carry more weight if you can show:
1.) photographs of your macro set-up (camera + lens + illumination source); and
2.) examples of your macro-photography, using your macro set-up.

My macro set-up is here: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-32754-1.html#511426
Examples of my macro-photography are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikonian72
My macro-illumination is a common Nikon SB-600 speedlight ($200) & an O-Flash attachment ($30).

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Oct 29, 2012 02:45:48   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Mogul wrote:
For lighting a macro subject, you will either need a ring flash (MF18) or a way to direct light onto the subject (off-camera cord, slave, reflector, etc.). Maybe the War Department could authorize the additional cost of the Canon MR 14EX by redirecting discretionary or public policy funds; the government does it all the time.
Your suggestions will carry more weight if you can show:
1.) photographs of your macro set-up (camera + lens + illumination source); and
2.) examples of your macro-photography, using your macro set-up.

My macro set-up is here: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-32754-1.html#511426
Examples of my macro-photography are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikonian72
My macro-illumination is a common Nikon SB-600 speedlight ($200) & an O-Flash attachment ($30).
quote=Mogul For lighting a macro subject, you wil... (show quote)


There is no way in hell that I am going to show a cheap Rube Goldberg setup and fuzzy macro shots after you show your set-ups and photos. I'm way out of your league and we both know it.

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Oct 29, 2012 05:21:30   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Macro flash has changed a lot over the years and to be honest, for the better.

Personally I use Metz flash, and Sunpak (who have been making flash units forever).

BUT for macro I use this

http://cheesycam.com/meike-fc100-macro-led-ring-light-flash/

They are available from Amazon and are amazong, also used for portraits.

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Oct 29, 2012 07:26:42   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
Mogul wrote:
Nikonian72 wrote:
Mogul wrote:
For lighting a macro subject, you will either need a ring flash (MF18) or a way to direct light onto the subject (off-camera cord, slave, reflector, etc.). Maybe the War Department could authorize the additional cost of the Canon MR 14EX by redirecting discretionary or public policy funds; the government does it all the time.
Your suggestions will carry more weight if you can show:
1.) photographs of your macro set-up (camera + lens + illumination source); and
2.) examples of your macro-photography, using your macro set-up.

My macro set-up is here: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-32754-1.html#511426
Examples of my macro-photography are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikonian72
My macro-illumination is a common Nikon SB-600 speedlight ($200) & an O-Flash attachment ($30).
quote=Mogul For lighting a macro subject, you wil... (show quote)


There is no way in hell that I am going to show a cheap Rube Goldberg setup and fuzzy macro shots after you show your set-ups and photos. I'm way out of your league and we both know it.
quote=Nikonian72 quote=Mogul For lighting a macr... (show quote)


I have used many MacGyver rigs for my macro lighting with much success being broke makes a good excuse for being creative

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Oct 29, 2012 07:28:21   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
deleted double post for some reason

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Oct 30, 2012 07:33:47   #
skidooman Loc: Minnesota
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Mogul wrote:
For lighting a macro subject, you will either need a ring flash (MF18) or a way to direct light onto the subject (off-camera cord, slave, reflector, etc.). Maybe the War Department could authorize the additional cost of the Canon MR 14EX by redirecting discretionary or public policy funds; the government does it all the time.
Your suggestions will carry more weight if you can show:
1.) photographs of your macro set-up (camera + lens + illumination source); and
2.) examples of your macro-photography, using your macro set-up.

My macro set-up is here: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-32754-1.html#511426
Examples of my macro-photography are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikonian72
My macro-illumination is a common Nikon SB-600 speedlight ($200) & an O-Flash attachment ($30).
quote=Mogul For lighting a macro subject, you wil... (show quote)


I have the MR EX14,,,and get along pretty well with it. However, if I had to do it all over,,,I'd go with what Nikoian72 suggests, as I have several speedlights. Buy a speedlight and an O flash. You'll get more mileage that way.



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Oct 30, 2012 11:25:35   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Tradscot wrote:
It has been suggested that I should perhaps purchase a "Flash" speedlite unit to complement my camera bag.

The "War Office" has tacitly agreed and so I am looking at the following units:
Canon 430ex II, Nissin Di 622 II and Nissin MF18. Ive long had a hankering for the Canon MR 14EX but sadly, thats not in the war budget.

Main use would be for Macro and my big concern is for simplicity of use/understanding.

Any thought based on experience would be appreciated.
Tradscot
It has been suggested that I should perhaps purcha... (show quote)


There is a book called Closeups in Nature by John Shaw. This book explains all of the techniques you have to know in order to do what you want to do. There are a lot of opinions on this site but this book is the bible on the subject.

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Oct 30, 2012 11:45:05   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
I suggest you google FREE E BOOKs

there are loads,

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Oct 30, 2012 23:58:00   #
Tradscot Loc: Cairns, Australia
 
Mogul wrote:
Tradscot wrote:
It has been suggested that I should perhaps purchase a "Flash" speedlite unit to complement my camera bag.

The "War Office" has tacitly agreed and so I am looking at the following units:
Canon 430ex II, Nissin Di 622 II and Nissin MF18. Ive long had a hankering for the Canon MR 14EX but sadly, thats not in the war budget.

Main use would be for Macro and my big concern is for simplicity of use/understanding.

Any thought based on experience would be appreciated.
Tradscot
It has been suggested that I should perhaps purcha... (show quote)


For lighting a macro subject, you will either need a ring flash (MF18) or a way to direct light onto the subject (off-camera cord, slave, reflector, etc.). Maybe the War Department could authorize the additional cost of the Canon MR 14EX by redirecting discretionary or public policy funds; the government does it all the time.
quote=Tradscot It has been suggested that I shoul... (show quote)


I put this to the Minister for War as a recommendation, I should be out of intensive care next week!!!...

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Oct 31, 2012 00:03:30   #
Tradscot Loc: Cairns, Australia
 
skidooman wrote:
Nikonian72 wrote:
Mogul wrote:
For lighting a macro subject, you will either need a ring flash (MF18) or a way to direct light onto the subject (off-camera cord, slave, reflector, etc.). Maybe the War Department could authorize the additional cost of the Canon MR 14EX by redirecting discretionary or public policy funds; the government does it all the time.
Your suggestions will carry more weight if you can show:
1.) photographs of your macro set-up (camera + lens + illumination source); and
2.) examples of your macro-photography, using your macro set-up.

My macro set-up is here: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-32754-1.html#511426
Examples of my macro-photography are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikonian72
My macro-illumination is a common Nikon SB-600 speedlight ($200) & an O-Flash attachment ($30).
quote=Mogul For lighting a macro subject, you wil... (show quote)


I have the MR EX14,,,and get along pretty well with it. However, if I had to do it all over,,,I'd go with what Nikoian72 suggests, as I have several speedlights. Buy a speedlight and an O flash. You'll get more mileage that way.
quote=Nikonian72 quote=Mogul For lighting a macr... (show quote)


I am leaning towards this solution, certainly gives more flexibility with equipment and would be affordable. Thanks, Tradscot.

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Oct 31, 2012 00:10:20   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Tradscot wrote:
Mogul wrote:
Tradscot wrote:
It has been suggested that I should perhaps purchase a "Flash" speedlite unit to complement my camera bag.

The "War Office" has tacitly agreed and so I am looking at the following units:
Canon 430ex II, Nissin Di 622 II and Nissin MF18. Ive long had a hankering for the Canon MR 14EX but sadly, thats not in the war budget.

Main use would be for Macro and my big concern is for simplicity of use/understanding.

Any thought based on experience would be appreciated.
Tradscot
It has been suggested that I should perhaps purcha... (show quote)


For lighting a macro subject, you will either need a ring flash (MF18) or a way to direct light onto the subject (off-camera cord, slave, reflector, etc.). Maybe the War Department could authorize the additional cost of the Canon MR 14EX by redirecting discretionary or public policy funds; the government does it all the time.
quote=Tradscot It has been suggested that I shoul... (show quote)


I put this to the Minister for War as a recommendation, I should be out of intensive care next week!!!...
quote=Mogul quote=Tradscot It has been suggested... (show quote)


Sorry to hear about your sudden incapacitation; hope it's just a flash in the pan.

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Oct 31, 2012 00:23:20   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Tradscot wrote:
It has been suggested that I should perhaps purchase a "Flash" speedlite unit to complement my camera bag.

The "War Office" has tacitly agreed and so I am looking at the following units:
Canon 430ex II, Nissin Di 622 II and Nissin MF18. Ive long had a hankering for the Canon MR 14EX but sadly, thats not in the war budget.

Main use would be for Macro and my big concern is for simplicity of use/understanding.

Any thought based on experience would be appreciated.
Tradscot
It has been suggested that I should perhaps purcha... (show quote)


I have a 430 EX II and love it to death and then some... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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