Upgrade?
Jul 21, 2021 07:39:41 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
The EOS R5 has changed how we think about mirrorless, how we think about photography, how we think about life.
Anyone ever say that about any model from Sony?
Anyone ever say that about any model from Sony?
Someone said this:
" a Sony α7R IV - 61 mp, and the fastest AF on the planet. With downsampling, there will be no noise. There is a lot to like about this camera, and the Zeiss lenses to go with it are pretty darn great."
And I think he actually owns one.
Jul 21, 2021 10:20:21 #
As best I understand the matter of switching from the Canon DSLR to the mirrorless camera, the switch amounts to changing systems even though still Canon gear.
Yes, consider outfitting your mirrorless camera with a new set of lenses, too, at substantial cost. The lens adapters for DSLR lenses will bring them forward for use on mirrorless cameras, yet I understand they do so at a reduction in performance.
Even if a photographer has decided to go with mirrorless, he may wish to rent to try it before he buys. Otherwise, the photographer will buy more from the ballyhoo of marketing than from experience with cost in mind.
Meantime, I am not stuck in the mud. I foresee one day going to mirrorless cameras. Then I may give all my DSLR cameras and lenses to a nearby high school photography program.
Students can still learn photography using DSLRs.
Yes, consider outfitting your mirrorless camera with a new set of lenses, too, at substantial cost. The lens adapters for DSLR lenses will bring them forward for use on mirrorless cameras, yet I understand they do so at a reduction in performance.
Even if a photographer has decided to go with mirrorless, he may wish to rent to try it before he buys. Otherwise, the photographer will buy more from the ballyhoo of marketing than from experience with cost in mind.
Meantime, I am not stuck in the mud. I foresee one day going to mirrorless cameras. Then I may give all my DSLR cameras and lenses to a nearby high school photography program.
Students can still learn photography using DSLRs.
uhaas2009 wrote:
Thought one. Just an idea: the used market is full with DSLR’s but not the mirror less. I got my DSLR almost 50% cheaper than original with about 6500 shutter count.
How much would I trust a mirror less? I hear overheating and other stuff.....don’t forget the lenses.....
How much would I trust a mirror less? I hear overheating and other stuff.....don’t forget the lenses.....
Jul 21, 2021 10:56:50 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
The EOS R5 has changed how we think about mirrorless, how we think about photography, how we think about life.
Anyone ever say that about any model from Sony?
Anyone ever say that about any model from Sony?
Actually Paul I recently purchased A9II and it changed the way I shoot. The frame rate, buffer and focus tracking has provided consistent images never achieved by me.
I'm not knocking the R5 I think its a winner too.
Jul 21, 2021 11:02:15 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
The EOS R5 has changed how we think about mirrorless, how we think about photography, how we think about life.
Anyone ever say that about any model from Sony?
Anyone ever say that about any model from Sony?
Then there is a guy who said this
"Nikon Z9 LEAKED! Better than Canon R1 & Sony a1"
Jul 21, 2021 13:44:54 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Then there is a guy who said this
"Nikon Z9 LEAKED! Better than Canon R1 & Sony a1"
"Nikon Z9 LEAKED! Better than Canon R1 & Sony a1"
The guy is known for click bait.
Jul 21, 2021 14:24:24 #
Even the EOS Rebel T6 is better than the EOS R1, a camera that doesn't actually exist nor has even been announced ...
Jul 21, 2021 15:03:53 #
I have both the 5D4 and the R5. The R5 gets used daily, the 5D4 now rarely. The choice is all yours, buy obsolete technology or what is the best available.
Jul 21, 2021 19:23:51 #
davyboy
Loc: Anoka Mn.
CHG_CANON wrote:
Even the EOS Rebel T6 is better than the EOS R1, a camera that doesn't actually exist nor has even been announced ...
Watch your mouth bout dem rebels!😎
Jul 21, 2021 21:27:20 #
josquin1
Loc: Massachusetts
The R6 has IBIS while the 5DIV does not. As one ages that becomes an important issue.
Jul 21, 2021 21:51:35 #
josquin1 wrote:
The R6 has IBIS while the 5DIV does not. As one ages that becomes an important issue.
I agree, but my understanding is that IBIS is more effective at shorter FLs while in-lens stabilization is the choice for longer FLs (and if your camera/lens combination can use both, even better), so it depends on what type of shooting you do. For example, I typically shoot moving subjects, so my shutter speed is usually high enough so that camera shake isn’t an issue, but others may find IBIS very useful. I’m beginning to develop a hand tremor, but oddly, it goes away when holding heavier objects (such as a FF camera). My “little” Fuji X-T2 is so light comparatively, that I’m beginning to wonder if an X-T4, which has IBIS, is in my future.
Jul 21, 2021 22:14:23 #
TriX wrote:
I agree, but my understanding is that IBIS is more... (show quote)
If the lens has IS, a feature of a surprising number of Canon lenses, even the newest RF lenses, the IBIS in the camera isn't such a big deal. I think IBIS is most relevant for non IS-enabled lenses, now making any / all lenses IS-enabled. Regarding longer focal lengths, I've used and benefitted from IS on 300 and 500 non IS legacy primes. But, not to the extent as I tend to use my IS-enabled EF lenses.
One thing lens IS can do is stabilize the view finder, helpful at all shutterspeeds and especially for longer focal lengths.
Jul 21, 2021 22:45:48 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
boberic wrote:
Toying with upgrading my ancient 7d (original) which is 8yo.Can't decide between the R6 or the 5D4. Since the cost is the same don't know which. Reason is mostly better low light performance. Which One?
R6.... 20MP, mirrorless, EVF, best of the best AF system covering the entire image area with 6000+ AF points, face & eye & animal tracking AF, focus as low as -6.5EV, f/11 capable, ISO 100-102400, better dynamic range, up to 20 frames/sec, IBIS, dual SD card slots, articulate 3" rear LCD Touch Screen.
5DIV... 30MP, DSLR, OVF, top of the line 61 point AF system, focus as low as -3EV, f/8 capable AF, ISO 100-32000 (expands to 50 and 102400), up to 7 frames/sec, better color bit depth, almost 3X as many shots per battery charge, dual memory card slots (1 SD, 1 CF), fixed 3.2" rare LCD Touch Screen.
It's a tough decision.... The R6 is pretty amazing in a lot of ways. But the 5DIV would feel familiar and is a proven winner with a lot more resolution. You only mention low light shooting, not what you're shooting or any additional detail and those might be very important considerations.
https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-R6-vs-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-IV
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/compare/Canon_5D_Mark_IV_vs_Canon_R6/BHitems/1274705-REG_1547010-REG
Jul 21, 2021 23:29:16 #
I have a 5D IV and have had a first gen 7D. If I were in your shoes, I would go for an R6, despite the difference in resolution. If I new I was going to be doing a LOT of cropping I "might" opt for the 5D4, otherwise it would be the R6 for me. I also have a 6D which has about the same resolution as the R6 and honestly I'm quite happy with it. The fact that Canon is on a new road for the new mirrorless RF ecosystem - I would take this opportunity to jump on the mirrorless train. I plan to sell by 7D2 and my 6D and get an R5 eventually but will keep the 5DIV as a backup/ second body.
Jul 22, 2021 00:08:30 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If the lens has IS, a feature of a surprising numb... (show quote)
IBIS stabilizes the viewfinder ... unless you’re using an IBIS’ed SLR (and AFAIK that means a Pentax).
Jul 23, 2021 20:12:05 #
User ID wrote:
IBIS stabilizes the viewfinder ... unless you’re using an IBIS’ed SLR (and AFAIK that means a Pentax).
Not to hijack the thread, but am I the only one who has to look up most of the acronyms you use? ;-]
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