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Jul 14, 2021 22:31:04   #
rosarioc62 Loc: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
 
Why do press reporters have their flashes in this position.



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Jul 14, 2021 22:46:07   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
??
Seems like the angle of incidence is only increased by a few degrees.

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Jul 14, 2021 23:50:42   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
Press reporters know ahead of time what angle of flash will give them the best possible photo.

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Jul 15, 2021 01:04:41   #
User ID
 
It’s not about aesthetics, it’s about efficiency. It’s not a wedding.

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Jul 15, 2021 02:31:57   #
twowindsbear
 
Cause the pix turn out better this way compared to having the flash pointing the opposite direction, especially outdoors

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Jul 15, 2021 04:06:07   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Pointing in the same direction as the camera , and lens?? Just a guess on my part. I use the same principle.

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Jul 15, 2021 05:26:51   #
roxiemarty Loc: Florida
 
If you mean above the camera and lens, it gives less shadows, and better coverage. Above and off is always better than the small flash on most cameras.

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Jul 15, 2021 06:14:54   #
MrPhotog
 
You may not have noticed the hinge on the flash bracket.

When the camera is turned vertical, with the shutter release button down, the flash bracket can be rotated so the flash is again directly over the center of the lens.

The idea is to keep the light directly over the center of the lens so harsh shadows are mostly hidden behind the subject.

People who prefer to shoot verticals with the shutter release up have a little harder time finding a flash bracket which folds on the right side, and doesn’t interfere with camera handling.

The bracket in this picture is not particularly effective with wide angle lenses. The simple hinge aligns the flash output in a horizontal pattern even when the image is vertical. If there is no diffuser on the flash, the top and bottom of the frame will have less exposure.

To avoid this, there are brackets which use a more-complicated parallel arm mechanism.

If you are using bounce flash the hinge-type bracket keeps the flash pointing at the ceiling for vertical as well as horizontal shots.

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Jul 15, 2021 07:25:26   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
rosarioc62 wrote:
Why do press reporters have their flashes in this position.


The higher you have the flash above the lens the more the shadow is thrown down behind the subject and you don't see the shadow. Also, the higher the flash, the less the chance of red eye.

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Jul 15, 2021 07:41:12   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
"...Why do press reporters have their flashes in this position..."?
Basically to provide a touch of bias relief and also to eliminate Red Eye...

btw, in my humble estimation (as a Fashion and Beauty shooter) those brackets are a very poor kludge for using a lighting assistant. Besides press reporters and "stringers" are a vanishing breed... All major publications have fired their photographic staff...

With 581 IG posts and only 445 followers you aren't their yet... Not even close... Once you have thousands of IG followers you will be taken seriously... Best advice rosarioc62? Follow the top IG shooters (those with over 10K followers) in your market... Reverse engineer their successful marketing paradigm & visual statements albeit be certain not to copy it, only use it as a go-by. Since you are focused on shooting weddings get on Wedding Wire and study the Top Wedding Shooters in your market.

https://www.weddingwire.com/wedding-photographers

I'm a bridal makeup artist and Wedding Wire is where it's at...

Oh, please don't rely primarily on flash brackets instead hire competent lighting assistants... Huge improvement over IQ... Trust me I work as a lighting assistant and many of my clients are top wedding shooters... Yes some use brackets in tight scenarios... but also deploy diffusion devices on their bracket mounted flash... NONE shoot with bare flash...

All the best on your epic journey as a Wedding Shooter...

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Jul 15, 2021 07:54:14   #
Archboo3 Loc: Central Florida
 
If you mean why does he have his flash on a bracket raised above his camera, it is to change the angle of the flash to eliminate red eye.

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Jul 15, 2021 07:58:55   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
MrPhotog wrote:
You may not have noticed the hinge on the flash bracket.

When the camera is turned vertical, with the shutter release button down, the flash bracket can be rotated so the flash is again directly over the center of the lens.

The idea is to keep the light directly over the center of the lens so harsh shadows are mostly hidden behind the subject.

People who prefer to shoot verticals with the shutter release up have a little harder time finding a flash bracket which folds on the right side, and doesn’t interfere with camera handling.

The bracket in this picture is not particularly effective with wide angle lenses. The simple hinge aligns the flash output in a horizontal pattern even when the image is vertical. If there is no diffuser on the flash, the top and bottom of the frame will have less exposure.

To avoid this, there are brackets which use a more-complicated parallel arm mechanism.

If you are using bounce flash the hinge-type bracket keeps the flash pointing at the ceiling for vertical as well as horizontal shots.
You may not have noticed the hinge on the flash br... (show quote)


Actually, flash brackets like the CBJR rotate 180 degrees for portrait orientation, leaving the flash unit perfectly aligned to distribute the light correctly. Brackets that rotate the camera under the flash produce the result you describe.

Unfortunately, many of the best bracket designs seem to have been discontinued as ownership of the companies has passed to heirs or others who do not understand the design and operational principles that make them work cotrectly. A good bracket used properly by someone who knows how is a very effective tool when off-camera techniques are not practical.

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Jul 15, 2021 10:15:30   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
User ID wrote:
It’s not about aesthetics, it’s about efficiency. It’s not a wedding.


Yes, EFFICIENCY ........not fine art . IOW, it is not about making people look their best - only getting the shot.

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Jul 15, 2021 12:41:14   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
rosarioc62 wrote:
Why do press reporters have their flashes in this position.


If the flash isn't moved forward, the lens shade casts a shadow on what is being photographed.

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Jul 15, 2021 15:05:31   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
MrPhotog wrote:
You may not have noticed the hinge on the flash bracket.

When the camera is turned vertical, with the shutter release button down, the flash bracket can be rotated so the flash is again directly over the center of the lens.

The idea is to keep the light directly over the center of the lens so harsh shadows are mostly hidden behind the subject. ...

Furthermore, the higher position over the lens eliminates or reduces the incidents of red-eye. I use a rather inexpensive model, the Vello CB-100
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/743002-REG/Vello_CB_100_Quickdraw_Rotating_Flash_Bracket.html?sts=pi&pim=Y

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