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Jun 21, 2021 06:40:49   #
jburlinson Loc: Austin, TX
 
texasdigital wrote:
A number of people recommended that I take up golf. Oh no, I said, golf is way too expensive. Instead, I think I’ll try photography. Lordy, I could have purchased many golf clubs, memberships, and a fancy golf cart for what I’ve spend on photography.


It gets really expensive every time you throw your camera into the lake when you make a bad shot.

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Jun 21, 2021 09:53:46   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
larryepage wrote:
The second is that even though I don't claim any particular value for my images, I'm still not interested in having them "harvested" by others.



You don't have any nice pictures you are willing to share with members of a photography site you joined.

That's sad IMHO.

It wouldn't have to be a big harvest.


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Jun 21, 2021 10:30:36   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Bill_de wrote:
You don't have any nice pictures you are willing to share with members of a photography site you joined.

That's sad IMHO.

It wouldn't have to be a big harvest.


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Others here would be welcome to them. There are several on this site that I have posted in the past, before happening to see one of them being used elsewhere. Others here have posted discussions about seeing their photographs being used in commercial settings. I'm just not interested in supporting the data-mining operations that do it for a living. And not the facial recognition outfits that are building databases that are being used for warrantless searches every day. And you are absolutely right. It's a sad state of affairs that I am just no longer willing to promote.

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Jun 21, 2021 10:45:35   #
gwilliams6
 
texasdigital wrote:
What I am getting here is how superior your preferred brand of camera is versus others. Some of you feel so strongly about that opinion that you don’t allow any room for any other opinions than your own, even to the point of being insulting.

I’m reading much about the engineering marvel your brand of camera is, but I getting very little about the quality of photographs you are producing from that platform. Since I don’t know any of you or have access to an example of your work, it is difficult to judge the veracity of your statements. You may have the finest, most owned, most expensive, technologically advance camera in he world, but if you can’t produce good photographs with it, then all of that superiority is not much more than a good boat anchor.

So rather than read about how much better your gear is than others, I’d like to see some examples of your work. For one, I am still learning this art and I’d love to learn from you if you are producing superior work, regardless of what camera you are using. Many Canon users are in the sports or news field. I’ve read how difficult it can be to get that unique and saleable shot, and if your camera helps you with that, I would enjoy seeing some examples.

The bottom-line is “the proof is in the pudding”. Rather than bad mouth and insult anyone who doesn’t believe as you do, demonstrate by displaying examples of your work (you may post links if you choose). I’m the first to admit that I am not an engineer, nor do I have an engineer’s mind. Based on the information provided in this thread, I can assure you that I am not as intelligent or informed as some of you. I am just a country boy looking to enjoy my hobby, but I don’t have a lot of money to buy expensive equipment.

Which brings me to what I think is a humorous observation. As I neared retirement I began researching a hobby that would keep my mind active and well as my body. A number of people recommended that I take up golf. Oh no, I said, golf is way too expensive. Instead, I think I’ll try photography. Lordy, I could have purchased many golf clubs, memberships, and a fancy golf cart for what I’ve spend on photography.
What I am getting here is how superior your prefer... (show quote)


I am happy to share one of my facebook pages, where you can see some of my best shots taken with my Nikon, my Canon and my Sony cameras . Also here is a facebook International Photography Group I started, you are all welcome to join. Cheers

https://www.facebook.com/GSWilliamsPhotography

https://www.facebook.com/groups/3048747915213474

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Jun 21, 2021 11:13:13   #
BarviDaley01
 
Amendment.... I know We are Just Two People !!!

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Jun 21, 2021 11:44:35   #
texasdigital Loc: Conroe, Texas
 
Hmmm … kinda like “ let’s take this outside”!

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Jun 21, 2021 12:18:15   #
gwilliams6
 
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Jun 21, 2021 13:15:35   #
pego101
 
texasdigital wrote:
So I’m trying to be upbeat and positive, however, with Nikon’s continuing problems, I am concerned that my beloved Nikon will go the way of Olympus. I’ve been a Nikon fan ever since Canon went to the EOS system, requiring us to upgrade all of our lenses. Until then, I used many different camera platforms, including SpeedGraphics 4x5. Once I switched, Nikon has always served me well, and I never saw the need to switch to Canon or Sony. However, times are changing, and it remains to be seen whether Nikon gets it’s act together or not. An article explains why they might not survive the current transition (https://petapixel.com/2021/01/20/nikon-is-going-to-be-fine-probably/). While Japan’s industry usually makes reliable decisions, that is not always the case.

I love my Nikon equipment. I’ve owned, and still own, a number of Nikon bodies, but my main bodies are the D610 and D850. But, my biggest investment is in Nikon lenses. My opinion has always been that the lens is the heart of any camera system. Bodies change and improved, but lens are a long term investment. That is, unless the entire system fails, such as the case if Nikon is no longer a competitor in the market.

So, if there are any Nikon executives monitoring this forum, please do not allow my beloved Nikon to go the way of the dinosaurs. Make good financial decisions and get your engineers off their butts and continue to innovate and improve. I know I am just one person and my support of Nikon won’t be a difference in whether Nikon is successful or not, but understand that I once lived in Japan and I understand the Japanese Psyche better than most Gaijin. Please don’t disappoint me and the thousands of Nikon supporters who have faithfully stuck with you for many years. Kimi nara dekiru yo!
So I’m trying to be upbeat and positive, however, ... (show quote)


Here we go with another Nikon is dying post. What continuing problems specifically?

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Jun 21, 2021 13:23:20   #
jeffhacker Loc: Dallas, Texas
 
billnikon wrote:
I am like MAD magazine, "What, me worry". I worked for Nikon, the Nikon camera division is only about 8% of the total company, do not worry, Nikon is first and foremost a LENS company, they mold their own glass from dust particles. Currently their are only two companies in the world that do this and Nikon is one of them.
Nikon camera division is not going anywhere. Trust me. Your lenses are the finest made in the world, use them proudly. I own and still use my D3s with many "D" Nikon AF lenses. They outperform any lens out there.
Nikon will still be here 100 years from today.
This said I am also using Sony camera's and lenses for now, as soon as Nikon catches up, I will switch back.
It was Nikon camera's and glass that went to the Moon, it is Nikon rangefinders and glass that still accompany the Shuttles to the international space station, and yes, Nikon camera's are still used there, everyday of the week. Only Nikon. I wonder why, but not really, Nikon optics are used in most of the best scientific instruments used today around the world.
I am not knocking Canon, Sony, and other companies, they all produce fine instruments. And Nikon will be right there with them producing relevant products.
Nikon, at first when mirrorless camera's out, did not appropriate much R&R toward it, but over the past couple of years they have been throwing more resources toward them. That is starting to pay off. Just watch and see.
I am like MAD magazine, "What, me worry"... (show quote)



If you look carefully, Sony and Nikon are connected. Nikon is part of the Mitsubishi Zaibatsu; Sony's primary bank is Mitsubishi. Sony and Nikon both own Tamron. There are more connections. Nikon isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

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Jun 21, 2021 13:50:35   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
texasdigital wrote:
What I am getting here is how superior your preferred brand of camera is versus others. Some of you feel so strongly about that opinion that you don’t allow any room for any other opinions than your own, even to the point of being insulting.

I’m reading much about the engineering marvel your brand of camera is, but I getting very little about the quality of photographs you are producing from that platform. Since I don’t know any of you or have access to an example of your work, it is difficult to judge the veracity of your statements. You may have the finest, most owned, most expensive, technologically advance camera in he world, but if you can’t produce good photographs with it, then all of that superiority is not much more than a good boat anchor.

So rather than read about how much better your gear is than others, I’d like to see some examples of your work. For one, I am still learning this art and I’d love to learn from you if you are producing superior work, regardless of what camera you are using. Many Canon users are in the sports or news field. I’ve read how difficult it can be to get that unique and saleable shot, and if your camera helps you with that, I would enjoy seeing some examples.

The bottom-line is “the proof is in the pudding”. Rather than bad mouth and insult anyone who doesn’t believe as you do, demonstrate by displaying examples of your work (you may post links if you choose). I’m the first to admit that I am not an engineer, nor do I have an engineer’s mind. Based on the information provided in this thread, I can assure you that I am not as intelligent or informed as some of you. I am just a country boy looking to enjoy my hobby, but I don’t have a lot of money to buy expensive equipment. Now I have a six lens Olympus setup

Which brings me to what I think is a humorous observation. As I neared retirement I began researching a hobby that would keep my mind active and well as my body. A number of people recommended that I take up golf. Oh no, I said, golf is way too expensive. Instead, I think I’ll try photography. Lordy, I could have purchased many golf clubs, memberships, and a fancy golf cart for what I’ve spend on photography.
What I am getting here is how superior your prefer... (show quote)


texasdigital, I don't know whether the above was just intended for me (it followed my post; hit "Quote Reply" or address it so people know who you are talking to), but my comment that preceded yours was intended as "tongue in cheek". If there is a picture to be taken in front of you, and one has a camera in their hands, one has the "right" camera. It may be a smartphone or it may be a Hasselblad, but "take the picture" is the idea. Yes, there are arguments here on which is the best camera. But for most of us, the best camera is the one that meets our photographic needs the best. Some are professional and need cameras like Hasselblad, Sony, Nikon, and Canon along with all their size, weight, and cost. It comes with the territory of the needs. But I for one have traveled with my travel agent / agency owner wife for 35 years. I started with a "small" 35 pound three lens Hasselblad setup and backup Canon initially. But over the years my needs have changed. Now I have a six lens Olympus setup. My normal travel setup is three lens, covering 14mm to 200mm angle of view plus 1:1 macro in 35mm terms, two flashes, polarizers, and batteries. This all fits in a 6"x11"x12" camera bag at just under 7 pounds. This is great for my traveling needs because the camera becomes a personal item while I can still do a carry-on. Is this a great setup for everyone? Absolutely not! But it would be a great setup for people with needs like mine. And my needs are going to change again. I will be retiring next year with some longer lenses for wildlife. I will have to migrate up to a small backpack to carry 10 to 12 pounds. Bye-bye personal item status.

Most of us on UHH understand the needs are the criteria, but that does not stop some from believing everyone should shoot their brand of camera. And we are all in the same "boat" of a shrinking market for the tools that we use for what we love to do. Hence a lot of the worries that sometimes flare the tempers. Or even spark the humor.

As far as golf is concerned, it a good game. But I much prefer looking at life unfold before my eyes and trying to capture it with my camera.

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Jun 21, 2021 14:00:41   #
texasdigital Loc: Conroe, Texas
 
pego101 wrote:
Here we go with another Nikon is dying post. What continuing problems specifically?


There are numerous trade articles that discuss the issues with Nikon's infrastructure, but my personal issue is Nikon's head in the sand attitude about the competition's technological improvements. If you spend a bit of time with other photographers, such as in a club, it won't take long to see the wonderful products Canon and Sony are bringing to the market. I'm not talking the 6 grand packages that pros use, but something that advance armatures can enjoy.

Now ... pause, breathe ... Nikon's D850 was a game changer to me. Sharing many of the attributes of the pro level gear, but in a more reasonable package, it has so many new features that I'm still learning some. And no, I'm not one that believes a better camera make better photographs. But, better cameras make it easier to produce better photographs, therefore bring the fun back into photography.

When I first started everything was manual and lots of black and white. I was one of the charter members of Photoshop. It was called Darkroom. As a crime scene investigator, working for a skinflint sheriff who didn't want to spend money on equipment, I carried a Speed Graphics on crime scenes. And yes, that included the ancient wood tripod necessary to support the camera. Number of exposures depended on how many film packs you could carry in a bag. So yes, I do appreciate the advances in photography technology.

So is Nikon dying?? Well, perhaps I was a bit over dramatic, but it's only because of my love for this brand, and my concern stems from this relationship. Someone recently ask me if I thought I could do better running Nikon and initially I thought no, however, giving it some thought, I think I would take a page out of Canon's book and I would increase marketing until Nikon was more of a household word. I don't know how I would compete with Canon's white lenses (genus), but I would find something uniquely and visibly Nikon, and promote the heck out of it. I also would not be afraid to copy or one up the competitions advances. After all, that's what they did for years until Nikon stumbled and quit innovating.

Oh there's so much more, but I'm not sure Nikon is dying, only taking there own sweet time catching up.

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Jun 21, 2021 14:29:01   #
texasdigital Loc: Conroe, Texas
 
wdross wrote:
texasdigital, I don't know whether the above was just intended for me (it followed my post; hit "Quote Reply" or address it so people know who you are talking to), but my comment that preceded yours was intended as "tongue in cheek".


No sir ... at least I don't think so. But then again, I've slept since then. I think I was trying to point out without starting a war and getting, as one person put it, banished to the Attic, that an opinion can be made without being condescending. I don't think I intended to point you out, rather it was written in a general sense. I've no doubt that there are individuals on UHH that are extremely knowledgeable about equipment, perhaps even at the engineer level. I would love to learn from them, but it is difficult to listen when I feel like I'm being schooled.

I've been involved in photography a long time, but I feel like I'm only scratching the surface of knowledge. Those of us who shot film with cameras that had no automatic features can appreciate the technology available today.

My close friend, Leo, has pass away many years now. But, while he was alive I learned so much from him, as much as a father figure as anything. Leo lived and worked in New York City during the golden years, so he was quick to point out how NYC was superior to any city on the planet. And, having that unique NYC attitude, he would sometimes border on offending you when he made that point. However, Leo forgot more about photography than I ever learned. His wedding photographs were on glass plates, and when a fire consumed the paper copies, I had a time finding a studio that I could trust to print them. He worked not only as a photographer, but also in marketing. So, from time to time I would have to remind him that us lesser beings weren't as evolved as New Yorkers and please scale it back so I can learn from your experience. It was sometimes a challenge.

So I hope I didn't come off as bordering on being offensive to you, or anyone for that matter, I was simply trying to deescalate the furor of superiority that was thinly veiled.

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Jun 21, 2021 14:53:47   #
baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
smussler wrote:
Yeah, I guess that's what happened. But my old Minolta lens (A Mount) only fit the early Sony Cameras.


True - because that A mount wasn't that great - ironically Sony E mount is also not very good for full frame lens design and they will hit walls because of it going forward.

If, using the totally hypothetical example from before, Apple bought Nikon and renamed the camera line Apple just like Sony renamed Minolta "Sony" they most certainly would not switch from the Z mount to something else as the Z mount is state of the art and the best mount in the business - by the best mount, I mean has the most potential - Nikon has not executed that much yet on this potential, but the Z mount has the most promise for lens design for the long term future.

So, your Nikon lenses would continue to work on these Apple cameras - it would not be like Minolta and Sony.

That said, Nikon is fine and will not be going out of business any time soon.

Have a great day!

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Jun 21, 2021 16:26:16   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
texasdigital wrote:
No sir ... at least I don't think so. But then again, I've slept since then. I think I was trying to point out without starting a war and getting, as one person put it, banished to the Attic, that an opinion can be made without being condescending. I don't think I intended to point you out, rather it was written in a general sense. I've no doubt that there are individuals on UHH that are extremely knowledgeable about equipment, perhaps even at the engineer level. I would love to learn from them, but it is difficult to listen when I feel like I'm being schooled.

I've been involved in photography a long time, but I feel like I'm only scratching the surface of knowledge. Those of us who shot film with cameras that had no automatic features can appreciate the technology available today.

My close friend, Leo, has pass away many years now. But, while he was alive I learned so much from him, as much as a father figure as anything. Leo lived and worked in New York City during the golden years, so he was quick to point out how NYC was superior to any city on the planet. And, having that unique NYC attitude, he would sometimes border on offending you when he made that point. However, Leo forgot more about photography than I ever learned. His wedding photographs were on glass plates, and when a fire consumed the paper copies, I had a time finding a studio that I could trust to print them. He worked not only as a photographer, but also in marketing. So, from time to time I would have to remind him that us lesser beings weren't as evolved as New Yorkers and please scale it back so I can learn from your experience. It was sometimes a challenge.

So I hope I didn't come off as bordering on being offensive to you, or anyone for that matter, I was simply trying to deescalate the furor of superiority that was thinly veiled.
No sir ... at least I don't think so. But then ag... (show quote)


Not offensive at all. And I enjoy your your latest with it truth and humor. There are a lot of the best people this world has to offer on this site.They may not be perfect, they are some of the best. I can aways expect help if I need it.

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Jun 21, 2021 16:43:22   #
gwilliams6
 
jeffhacker wrote:
If you look carefully, Sony and Nikon are connected. Nikon is part of the Mitsubishi Zaibatsu; Sony's primary bank is Mitsubishi. Sony and Nikon both own Tamron. There are more connections. Nikon isn't going anywhere anytime soon.


I totally agree. Nikon is a member of the Mitsubishi group of companies (keiretsu).

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