Full Frame and DX (cropped sensor) is not a new thing.
CHG_CANON wrote:
A home run is worth more than two doubles. So is a full frame camera.
There are far, far too many variables for you to make a blanket statement like that. Physical skills, shooting style, shooting skills, destination of the images…the list goes on and on. A crop sensor…or even a M4/3 sensor…will produce indistinguishable results from FF…depending on these variables.
Yes…generally speaking FF has more MP and perhaps dynamic range…but that might be irrelevant given the values of the aforementioned variables.
I’ve seen you give plenty of spot on advice here…so I’m pretty sure you are aware of all of the above. Given that…and this is a serious question…why do you persist with posts like this.
Frankly…I will be surprised if you answer.
BebuLamar wrote:
You may need the crop factor because you don't know better.
What are talking about?
It's not a need, it's a piece of information about photography that you either understand...or you don't.
I used the equation when I shot APS-C and was looking for a new lens.
If you don't understand the crop factor, you don't understand photography.
Canisdirus wrote:
Yes, but you went 'up' with your analysis...not 'down'.
35mm film is full frame today.
24mm (APS) film is APS-C today.
16mm film (laughable 110) is micro 4/3'ds today.
I was wondering if someone would mention 110. Garbage cameras with even more trash-worthy imaging capabilities.
Canisdirus wrote:
What are talking about?
It's not a need, it's a piece of information about photography that you either understand...or you don't.
I used the equation when I shot APS-C and was looking for a new lens.
If you don't understand the crop factor, you don't understand photography.
Mr. Adams I think is a decent photographer and he never wrote about the crop factor in any of his books intended for learning.
billnikon wrote:
I owed a Konica 35 mm camera that could take 1/2 frame 35mm images, so on a roll of 36 exposures I could get 72. Cool.
Me too ! Could switch mid roll and drive photo finishers nuts.
Photec wrote:
It seems like photographers today think having a camera with a sensor that is smaller than normal is something new. Actually, it dates back to very early in photography, in the old film view camera days. Many photographers with view cameras had different film backs and used the same lenses to get different size photographs. 8X10 camera photographers often had 5X7 and 4X5 film backs, this would give them the ability to shoot a normal or wide angle shot, then shoot a full length and or portrait with the same camera, onto different film backs and only have to travel with 1 camera. Cropped camera is not a new thing, in 35mm film days it was know as 'half-frame' cameras.
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I was trained on a 8x10 camera for stationary product photography. Customers were impressed by 8x10 transparencies; only after we had an account did we occasionally use the 5x7 holders, when the customer would only see the photograph pasted up in a layout. Most of the magic was in the swing and tilt of the bellows for selective or extended depth of field of the subject. We had three lenses to vary the coverage and content of the photographs, but ended up using one because of the limited subject matter.
By the time our packaging line expanded to include more outdoor products, price became the key element, and I switched to 35mm or just purchased stock photographs.
I believe that the 8x10 camera was trashed after the company was bought out and the art department closed.
Boris
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Loc: New York, Antigua, GT.
I have bought newspaper photo cameras 8x10sm as Klee. Some had interchangeable backs.
Fuji has teleconverters which do the same thing.
Boris77 wrote:
I was trained on a 8x10 camera for stationary product photography. Customers were impressed by 8x10 transparencies; only after we had an account did we occasionally use the 5x7 holders, when the customer would only see the photograph pasted up in a layout. Most of the magic was in the swing and tilt of the bellows for selective or extended depth of field of the subject. We had three lenses to vary the coverage and content of the photographs, but ended up using one because of the limited subject matter.
By the time our packaging line expanded to include more outdoor products, price became the key element, and I switched to 35mm or just purchased stock photographs.
I believe that the 8x10 camera was trashed after the company was bought out and the art department closed.
Boris
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When our bureau folded up I considered grabbing the abandoned 8x10, with lens and tripod, but during the verrrrry long period of folding up, I had already been transferred to another location. I believe it just got trashed as obsolete clutter :-(
I had very good opportunity to grab the 300/9.0 from my line camera but could never figger out how to remove it (and the camera is bigger than an SUV).
User ID wrote:
When our bureau folded up I considered grabbing the abandoned 8x10, with lens and tripod, but during the verrrrry long period of folding up, I had already been transferred to another location. I believe it just got trashed as obsolete clutter :-(
I had very good opportunity to grab the 300/9.0 from my line camera but could never figger out how to remove it (and the camera is bigger than an SUV).
That is why the SUV is the most popular and the worst kind of vehicle there is.
BebuLamar wrote:
That is why the SUV is the most popular and the worst kind of vehicle there is.
If you parked my line camera in a one car garage there’d be hardly room for a bike.
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