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Jun 20, 2021 09:55:44   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Don't sink money into an unused 'back up'. Don't create a 'difference' either between your bodies where you end up using one over the other, thus creating this unused back-up. Find another used EOS 6DII and begin to work with one lens on one body and a complementary lens on the other. I say this looking at the business aspect, where everything needs to work the same and as expected with no mental adjustments in the field. But, you might find another body for your long 150-600 Tamron for wildlife makes sense too. The 'why' of another body should be fully considered. Just don't sink money into something that sits on the shelf unused or ends up creating that situation.

I don't see anything missing your lenses. You can throw money at faster apertures, but you won't get anything sharper than these three primes unless you change both to mirrorless lenses and a mirrorless body. Not an expensive idea that is worth pursuing now.
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I am not a professional photographer, but I have shot some organized events. You do not want to do that with two cameras that don't shoot "the same." Having two cameras is important...reliability insurance, yes, but flexibility even more. So either get a second camera like the one you have, or get a 5D4 as step one on the toad to having two of them.

There are a few cases where you can find two cameras that shoot exactly the same, but it's pretty rare.

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Jun 20, 2021 10:56:02   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
out4life2016 wrote:
Can you give more detail on what you mean by adding another zero


500=1500 for 4 hrs.
Boudoir=150/hr and up
These prices is for your time only.
I would do a search for pricing in your area and adjust accordingly. If your work is superior to others, or you provide other
products, you could charge more.


My granddaughter is a boudoir photographer in Phoenix and gets $3000 and up per shoot. She does have packages that includes albums etc.

My thought is, at $500, you are underpricing yourself. Unless for some reason the fees in your area are a lot less.

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Jun 20, 2021 11:16:00   #
out4life2016 Loc: Bellingham, Washington
 
frankraney wrote:
500=1500 for 4 hrs.
Boudoir=150/hr and up
These prices is for your time only.
I would do a search for pricing in your area and adjust accordingly. If your work is superior to others, or you provide other
products, you could charge more.


My granddaughter is a boudoir photographer in Phoenix and gets $3000 and up per shoot. She does have packages that includes albums etc.

My thought is, at $500, you are underpricing yourself. Unless for some reason the fees in your area are a lot less.
500=1500 for 4 hrs. br Boudoir=150/hr and up br Th... (show quote)


Thank You i will look at pricing however there are a few so called pros in the area. Im not saying im as good as they are but i can hold my own ground. I do this more for the hobby aspect. Boudoir shooting is a very hard field when your a man. Most clients prefer women shooters and therefore cell phones and a female friend are aften used. Weddings are easier to book however finding the time for me to edit and produce things like albums and such are hard since i dribve a semi truck and am gone a few weeks at a time.

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Jun 20, 2021 13:11:48   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
out4life2016 wrote:
Thank You i will look at pricing however there are a few so called pros in the area. Im not saying im as good as they are but i can hold my own ground. I do this more for the hobby aspect. Boudoir shooting is a very hard field when your a man. Most clients prefer women shooters and therefore cell phones and a female friend are aften used. Weddings are easier to book however finding the time for me to edit and produce things like albums and such are hard since i dribve a semi truck and am gone a few weeks at a time.
Thank You i will look at pricing however there are... (show quote)



People tend to shy away from someone that's a lot cheaper. Unless you are running a special, your prices should be comparable to others in your area, for the same service. To low sometimes sounds like "I'm a beginner".

It sounds like you are good enough to match the competition. Do it......

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Jun 20, 2021 13:17:44   #
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CHG_CANON wrote:
Don't sink money into an unused 'back up'. Don't create a 'difference' either between your bodies where you end up using one over the other, thus creating this unused back-up. Find another used EOS 6DII and begin to work with one lens on one body and a complementary lens on the other. I say this looking at the business aspect, where everything needs to work the same and as expected with no mental adjustments in the field. But, you might find another body for your long 150-600 Tamron for wildlife makes sense too. The 'why' of another body should be fully considered. Just don't sink money into something that sits on the shelf unused or ends up creating that situation.

I don't see anything missing your lenses. You can throw money at faster apertures, but you won't get anything sharper than these three primes unless you change both to mirrorless lenses and a mirrorless body. Not an expensive idea that is worth pursuing now.
Don't sink money into an unused 'back up'. Don't c... (show quote)


Amen !!!!!!!!!!!

I use 3 pair of identical twins (body with lens) plus various pairs of fraternal twins that are set up to be nearly identical. And I don’t do commercial anymore. All that twinning is just an unshakable burned in habitual comfort zone held over from my working days.

You absolutely need to form that very same paranoidal habit IMMEDIATELY.

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Jun 20, 2021 21:35:18   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
I suggested you go with a 5DIV in an earlier answer. I have for several years used two cameras. A full frame 5D IV and a non full frame a 7DII. The advantage of this combo is one is full fram and the other is not (lens advantage) and the other with this combo is when either camera is in your hands all the button controls are in the same spots. In your hands it's the same camera.

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Jun 21, 2021 08:44:00   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
At those prices you're competing with Craig's list photographers and are unlikely to be successful in the long term. Unless this is a labor of love and strictly a hobby which generates pocket change, you may want to consider raising your prices significantly.

Since you mentioned weddings, you need at least N+1 redundancy for all equipment you're using. Have you given any consideration to how you would deal with potential lawsuits? Lots of areas to consider when you do high profile events like weddings.

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Jun 21, 2021 09:18:20   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
out4life2016 wrote:
Its been awhile since my last post and my photography has really been stepping up lately with people photography.
Last night i did my first boudoir shoot that was actually a paid shoot and a birthday shoot last weekend. I shot my first wedding a few weeks back and have another wedding coming up in July which i was able to book from the last wedding. Everyone seems to be happy with my work and word is starting to get around. The pricing could be a big reason also. Weddings i charge 500 with only simple editing out of light room and only on so many photos. usually 1/4 of photos taken. they are given a few sample photos by email then rest is put on thumb drive and sent to them.
I use an IPAD to show the photos straight out the camera that same day as the shoot if they just want the photos then i still charge the 500.
Boudoir shoots I only charge 150-250 depending on what the customer wants. Depending on if customer wants different lighting and such. i have a portable studio lighting set with soft boxes and umbrellas along with several Godox speed lights I use with it and continuous lighting.
I have several events coming up everything from Graduation photos to a wedding and a few family portrait bookings.
The gear that i am shooting with now is a Canon 6D MarkII with 4 different lenses. 24-105L series F4, 50mm F1.8, 50mm F1.4, 85mm F1.8, and a 70-200L series F4 USMIII. The rest of my gear includes a Tamron 28-300 vc and Tamron 150-600 GenIII. I have three Godox speed lights which i use in a studio lighting kit if I dont want to use the continuous lighting.
So here is the big question should i spend more money on another lens or should i buy a second camera for back up. Im looking at the Canon 90D for that crop factor and extra reach with my lenses and the Canon 5D MarkIV for its just all out greatness.
Opinions and advice is greatly welcomed. Thank You in advance.
Its been awhile since my last post and my photogra... (show quote)


If you are shooting weddings with only one body, you are asking for disaster! A simple drop or locked shutter may cost you a lawsuit. If you don't have a second body by that next wedding, rent one. A few years ago a friend who shoots weddings went with one body. His second body was in the shop and he did not take my advice to borrow one of my units. One roll into the wedding the shutter locked up! He ended "renting" a camera from a guest, a camera he was unfamiliar with and proceeded to make a mess of things. He was sued and spent about 1200.00 to rent tucks, a new wedding cake etc. to reproduce whatever shots he could. Don't go down that pathway! You seem to have a good selection of lenses -- go get a second body!

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Jun 21, 2021 09:21:44   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
out4life2016 wrote:
Thank you, you are correct the Tamron lenses are used only for wildlife where i need that extra reach. the reason i have two 50mm was because I did a few head shots with the 1.8 and a friend of mine let me use the 1.4 for the same head shots. 1.4 came out better with the creamy background they were really looking for so i went ahead and bought it also.


I’d be using the 85mm f/1.8 for head shots.

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Jun 21, 2021 09:33:10   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
out4life2016 wrote:
should i spend more money on another lens or should i buy a second camera for back up.


Doing what you are doing, you definitely need a backup - NOT a 90D but another 6DII .......
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Jun 21, 2021 09:55:14   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
ABSOLUTELY 2 of everything for weddings - either a 2nd 6D2 or sell the 6D2 and buy two lightly used 5D3s or 4s. As mentioned, in the fast moving environment of a wedding, it’s preferred to have identical bodies to prevent mistakes. You can put your 50 f1.4 (sell the 1.8) or 85 f1.8 on one and the 24-105L on the other. And rethink your pricing. Doing a good job at a wedding is hard work and should be compensated appropriately if you have the skill set to do a professional job. Underpricing puts you in the category of the ubiquitous craigslist “photographers” who just bought a Canon T6 with a kit lens and magically became wedding photographers.

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Jun 21, 2021 10:11:13   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"I am not a commercial photographer, but it seems to me that for paid work a second body would be essential, eliminating the possibility of being dead in the water if your 6D should fail."

Like others I am in full agreement with this. You have enough lenses to do the job.

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Jun 21, 2021 10:18:55   #
Chan Garrett
 
larryepage wrote:
I am not a professional photographer, but I have shot some organized events. You do not want to do that with two cameras that don't shoot "the same." Having two cameras is important...reliability insurance, yes, but flexibility even more. So either get a second camera like the one you have, or get a 5D4 as step one on the toad to having two of them.

There are a few cases where you can find two cameras that shoot exactly the same, but it's pretty rare.


At the prices you list, you are not placing much value on your time or talent. You risk placing yourself in the category of, "I am cheep for a reason." You may fill a "nitch" for people that can't afford a "real" wedding photographer, or who give no real value to photography. Not where you want to place yourself.

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Jun 21, 2021 10:34:06   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
out4life2016 wrote:
Its been awhile since my last post and my photography has really been stepping up lately with people photography.
Last night i did my first boudoir shoot that was actually a paid shoot and a birthday shoot last weekend. I shot my first wedding a few weeks back and have another wedding coming up in July which i was able to book from the last wedding. Everyone seems to be happy with my work and word is starting to get around. The pricing could be a big reason also. Weddings i charge 500 with only simple editing out of light room and only on so many photos. usually 1/4 of photos taken. they are given a few sample photos by email then rest is put on thumb drive and sent to them.
I use an IPAD to show the photos straight out the camera that same day as the shoot if they just want the photos then i still charge the 500.
Boudoir shoots I only charge 150-250 depending on what the customer wants. Depending on if customer wants different lighting and such. i have a portable studio lighting set with soft boxes and umbrellas along with several Godox speed lights I use with it and continuous lighting.
I have several events coming up everything from Graduation photos to a wedding and a few family portrait bookings.
The gear that i am shooting with now is a Canon 6D MarkII with 4 different lenses. 24-105L series F4, 50mm F1.8, 50mm F1.4, 85mm F1.8, and a 70-200L series F4 USMIII. The rest of my gear includes a Tamron 28-300 vc and Tamron 150-600 GenIII. I have three Godox speed lights which i use in a studio lighting kit if I dont want to use the continuous lighting.
So here is the big question should i spend more money on another lens or should i buy a second camera for back up. Im looking at the Canon 90D for that crop factor and extra reach with my lenses and the Canon 5D MarkIV for its just all out greatness.
Opinions and advice is greatly welcomed. Thank You in advance.
Its been awhile since my last post and my photogra... (show quote)


If you are budget conscious then I think you could get either another 6D or 6DII used for a very good price. As for lenses what is it you don't have that you really need?

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Jun 21, 2021 10:46:32   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
A second body is a must.

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