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Red-shouldered Hawk? Not sure
Oct 27, 2012 11:56:38   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
I captured this at Forsythe. I am having trouble identifying it so if you know please tell me.

C&C welcome as ussual, actually requested please. I know the third photo is not the best but it shows detail that might help ID it.

Jim D









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Oct 27, 2012 13:33:59   #
BigAl Loc: Lincs UK
 
Good sharpe captures oldtool..

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Oct 27, 2012 15:34:11   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
Bigal wrote:
Good sharpe captures oldtool..


Thank you. Any thoughts as to what it is? IDing hawk can be like trying to ID a duck. Had a friend that use to ask me what she had shot and I always answered "A duck". One day she stopped me and said but what kind of duck. I gave her an answer, "One that quacks?".

She doesn't ask me any more.

So, what kind of hawk is it and please don't tell me "One that flies?".

Jim D

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Oct 27, 2012 15:46:30   #
BigAl Loc: Lincs UK
 
Im to far away to id your bird, nothing like that here,
just guessing is it a penguin ? lol

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Oct 28, 2012 06:20:49   #
charile Loc: graham nc
 
I think it looks like a northern harrier.great shots.

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Oct 28, 2012 07:16:42   #
terryp
 
Although the white rump patch makes me wonder a bit, the distinctive bands on the tail and wings, and the dark reddish "shoulders" on the top of the wings in flight, and the markings on the underside, would lead me to believe that this IS a red-shouldered hawk but from around the California area of the US as they have a tendency to show a little bit darker red to burnt-orange coloring. I would say it's a pretty safe bet that it is a red shouldered hawk.

I hope this information helps.

terryp

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Oct 28, 2012 08:18:15   #
richardh76 Loc: VT, Central, Champlain Valley
 
oldtool2 wrote:
I captured this at Forsythe. I am having trouble identifying it so if you know please tell me.

C&C welcome as ussual, actually requested please. I know the third photo is not the best but it shows detail that might help ID it.

Jim D


A female Northern Harrier! Good shots!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
Richard

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Oct 28, 2012 08:29:29   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
terryp wrote:
Although the white rump patch makes me wonder a bit, the distinctive bands on the tail and wings, and the dark reddish "shoulders" on the top of the wings in flight, and the markings on the underside, would lead me to believe that this IS a red-shouldered hawk but from around the California area of the US as they have a tendency to show a little bit darker red to burnt-orange coloring. I would say it's a pretty safe bet that it is a red shouldered hawk.

I hope this information helps.

terryp
Although the white rump patch makes me wonder a bi... (show quote)


Terry,

Thanks for your thoughts. If it is from the Ca area it really is lost! I am in South New Jersey. The white stripe on the rump is common on juveniles. Many books do not show a juvenile in flight from above so you would never see that stripe. It was one of the things I questioned till I found a book that showed that shot.

The more books I check the more I am sure that is what it is. I am glad I got these photos because it is not very common in this area.

Jim D

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Oct 28, 2012 08:59:35   #
Dick Krause Loc: Atlanta
 
Northern Harrier, used to be called a Marsh Hawk.
You can frequently see them hovering in place as they home in on something below. They hunt a lot by sound as well as sight.

Nice shots. I haven't seen one for decades.

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Oct 28, 2012 09:18:10   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
richardh76 wrote:
oldtool2 wrote:
I captured this at Forsythe. I am having trouble identifying it so if you know please tell me.

C&C welcome as ussual, actually requested please. I know the third photo is not the best but it shows detail that might help ID it.

Jim D


A female Northern Harrier! Good shots!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
Richard


Thank you for the compliment!

An interesting thought and possibility. It has the white rump and owl like face, but don't they always have black wing tips?

Jim D

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Oct 28, 2012 09:22:41   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
Dick Krause wrote:
Northern Harrier, used to be called a Marsh Hawk.
You can frequently see them hovering in place as they home in on something below. They hunt a lot by sound as well as sight.

Nice shots. I haven't seen one for decades.


Thanks for the compliment, much appreciated. This was seen flying over tall marsh grass and he was covering a lot of ground quickly! He didn't give me much time to get these shots.

Jim D

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Oct 28, 2012 11:53:50   #
Alan Nelson Loc: Montana
 
Your bird is a Northern Harrier, nice shot!

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Oct 28, 2012 12:00:18   #
Neweagle Loc: Wales UK
 
Nice clear shots, great capture

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Oct 29, 2012 00:31:37   #
Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California
 
richardh76 wrote:
oldtool2 wrote:
I captured this at Forsythe. I am having trouble identifying it so if you know please tell me.

C&C welcome as ussual, actually requested please. I know the third photo is not the best but it shows detail that might help ID it.

Jim D


A female Northern Harrier! Good shots!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
Richard


Second it. My guess on viewing the first shot.
:thumbup:

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