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Is my 50 mm a macro lens or can I make it one?
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Jun 13, 2021 09:29:28   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
You can make your 50 focus closer by reversing the lens with an adapter or by using extension tubes. You’re better off getting a true macro in at least 100mm. Tokina makes a decent one that’s reasonably priced. The advantage of a longer focal length macro is that it gives you a greater working distance to the subject.

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Jun 13, 2021 09:53:01   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
eshlemania wrote:
I have a D5300 Nikon and a full frame Nikon D750. Would it be better to purchase a used micro lens? Which would be best-besides the 200 2.8-which I cannot afford.

Thanks bunches for your time and consideration.


Indeed you can just purchase a set of extension tubes. Automatic tubes are more a bit more expensive but well worth it and the camera remains in contact with the lens. Kenko is a decent brand.

Reversing the lens is also possible but is a real PIA. Stay away from cheap close up lenses as they are optically terrible.

A 50mm will have a rather short working distance that may pose difficulties with certain subjects like insects but is workable. Indeed you can press many lenses into macro duty including some wide angle lenses that can produce interesting results.


A macro(micro) lens is optimized for close focus. These lenses have no barrel or pincushion distortion and thus are good for copying art work, stamps and other documents. They also have excellent edge sharpness. A 105mm Nikkor would be an excellent choice for both your cameras. There are various lenses made in the range of 85 - 105mm that would be an excellent place to start. The 200mm lens is very good but is a bit difficult to use as it is large. If you really like macro it would be a lens to consider as an addition to your collection.

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Jun 13, 2021 10:01:08   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
larryepage wrote:
There is a wide variety of macro lenses avaliable for your cameras. Most are quite good, many are excellent. It is difficult to be knowledgeable about all of them.

Like you, I have both DX and FX Nikon cameras. I have a Nikkor 105mm f/2.8 VR Micro that I bought probably 13 years ago and a Nikkor 60mm f/2.8 that I bought a couple of years ago, initially for 35mm transparency and negative copying. I like both of them, but I don't shoot bugs, for which the longer lens you mentioned would be better. The 60mm has a weight and size advantage, while the 105mm has a working distance advantage, which makes lighting a little easier even if I'm not shooting live subjects. There is a lot of confusion around how macro performance compares on the two formats, but working distance of the 60mm on a DX camera is very similar to working distance of the 105mm on an FX camera for the same framed image.

Both of these lenses also do well when used to photograph at more normal distances, and both do well as flat field copy lenses at intermediate distances.

The big advantage over either reversing a standard lens or using extension tubes is that there is no exposure loss. Extension tubes in particular spread out the image of the lens they are used with, reducing the effective speed of the lens, usually by a significant amount.
There is a wide variety of macro lenses avaliable ... (show quote)


You are not correct. Using a lens with extension tubes and using a macro lens to achieve 1:1 magnification will produce identical exposures. A macro lens has effectively extension tubes built in. The f number on your lens refers to the value at infinity focus. Nikon cameras when using a macro lens keep track of the adjusted f number automatically. Other brands may not do so.

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Jun 13, 2021 10:49:58   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
[quote=fetzler] …"Stay away from cheap close up lenses as they are optically terrible."

I’ve read that the expensive asymmetrical ones are decent optically at the center where most macro subjects are located. They’re poor at the edges whereas a dedicated macro is sharp edge to edge.

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Jun 13, 2021 12:02:31   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
For casual macro photography use a set of autofocus extension tubes can be had new for $38.00.
https://www.amazon.com/SHOOT-Extension-Focus-Digital-Cameras/dp/B072PYB94B/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=nikon+autofocus+extension+tubes&qid=1623599829&sr=8-3

They come in a set of three different sizes and can be used individually or all together depending upon how much magnification is desirable for the subject. They are used with your existing lenses so they are all that is required for extreme closeup through macro ranges.

Enjoy the adventure..!

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Jun 13, 2021 12:23:33   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
In my other post I meant aspherical instead of asymmetrical.

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Jun 13, 2021 12:50:29   #
eshlemania Loc: Northern Indiana, USA
 
gessman wrote:
I didn't notice anyone mentioning a very versatile solution, this <$50 solution that can be found at https://www.ebay.com/itm/223429016181?hash=item3405683a75:g:4NIAAOxyV85RzovV but perhaps because it might necessitate using another lens with an aperture ring. This option might be usable with both cameras universally. It's been a while since I worked with Nikon gear.


I will have to investigate this option. Thanks for the link.

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Jun 13, 2021 12:52:48   #
eshlemania Loc: Northern Indiana, USA
 
fetzler wrote:
Indeed you can just purchase a set of extension tubes. Automatic tubes are more a bit more expensive but well worth it and the camera remains in contact with the lens. Kenko is a decent brand.

Reversing the lens is also possible but is a real PIA. Stay away from cheap close up lenses as they are optically terrible.

A 50mm will have a rather short working distance that may pose difficulties with certain subjects like insects but is workable. Indeed you can press many lenses into macro duty including some wide angle lenses that can produce interesting results.


A macro(micro) lens is optimized for close focus. These lenses have no barrel or pincushion distortion and thus are good for copying art work, stamps and other documents. They also have excellent edge sharpness. A 105mm Nikkor would be an excellent choice for both your cameras. There are various lenses made in the range of 85 - 105mm that would be an excellent place to start. The 200mm lens is very good but is a bit difficult to use as it is large. If you really like macro it would be a lens to consider as an addition to your collection.
Indeed you can just purchase a set of extension tu... (show quote)


Thanks, I am really leaning toward the 105mm. Although the 90mm is a possibility. Still checking my options. :D:D

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Jun 13, 2021 12:53:32   #
eshlemania Loc: Northern Indiana, USA
 
fetzler wrote:
You are not correct. Using a lens with extension tubes and using a macro lens to achieve 1:1 magnification will produce identical exposures. A macro lens has effectively extension tubes built in. The f number on your lens refers to the value at infinity focus. Nikon cameras when using a macro lens keep track of the adjusted f number automatically. Other brands may not do so.


This is good to know. Thanks so much.

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Jun 13, 2021 12:56:39   #
eshlemania Loc: Northern Indiana, USA
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
For casual macro photography use a set of autofocus extension tubes can be had new for $38.00.
https://www.amazon.com/SHOOT-Extension-Focus-Digital-Cameras/dp/B072PYB94B/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=nikon+autofocus+extension+tubes&qid=1623599829&sr=8-3

They come in a set of three different sizes and can be used individually or all together depending upon how much magnification is desirable for the subject. They are used with your existing lenses so they are all that is required for extreme closeup through macro ranges.

Enjoy the adventure..!
For casual macro photography use a set of autofocu... (show quote)


Oooo! Thanks so much for another option. :D:D This one looks interesting.

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Jun 13, 2021 13:33:30   #
Nicholas J DeSciose
 
The 105mm Macro one of the best lenses you could ever own

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Jun 13, 2021 13:35:04   #
Nicholas J DeSciose
 
Forget using all that clumsy and silly stuff it would still not be a real Macro AReal macro lens

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Jun 13, 2021 13:50:29   #
SteveFranz Loc: Durham, NC
 
How about a close-up filter? You can get them in various magnification values.

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Jun 13, 2021 13:57:05   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
I have both Nikon's 60mm and 105mm macro lenses. I use the60mm when I want a wider field of view up close and /or closer focus than the 105 offers. I use the 105 when I want distance. If I could only have one of them it would be the 60mm.

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Jun 13, 2021 14:52:54   #
eshlemania Loc: Northern Indiana, USA
 
BboH wrote:
I have both Nikon's 60mm and 105mm macro lenses. I use the60mm when I want a wider field of view up close and /or closer focus than the 105 offers. I use the 105 when I want distance. If I could only have one of them it would be the 60mm.


Thanks much. :D:D

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