Japanese Cameras.
TriX
Loc: Raleigh, NC
ClarkJohnson wrote:
This is exactly the reason that Japanese products have been so dominant, and why the actual location of assembly matters less. The talent to create a production line that emphasizes quality is incredibly important.
My example concerns a US TV company that I worked for (Quasar) that was purchased by the Japanese company Matushita (Panasonic). The US production line in Illinois created something like 20 defects per unit that needed to be corrected before final shipment. Matsushita moved the production to Mexico, and, using a fairly transient work force, reduced the production line defect rate to under 5 per unit. Its all in the ability to create products in a manner that minimizes errors and standardizes quality.
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That doesn’t surprise me. The worst and only really bad electronic product that I’ve bought in decades was a small flat screen TV made by Phillips/Magnavox in Tennessee many years ago - cost ~$500 at the time. Got a schematic and opened it up and was surprised by the poor quality of the PC boards - didn’t waste any more time on it.
Mac
Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
Leica is making some lenses in Portugal.
Mac wrote:
Leica is making some lenses in Portugal.
Some Leica made in Spain and some in Canada.
There are quite a good number of Leica's made in Japan which were similar to those offered by Panasonic but the Panasonic counterparts are made in China.
TriX
Loc: Raleigh, NC
As long as all the parts are made in Germany. If you take a look at a Mercedes assembled in Germany, the parts are from all over the world, from Argentina to Italy. In fact, outsourced intermediate shafts with timing chain gears of incorrect metallurgy/heat treating (and lousy Incoming QA) caused an epidemic of hundreds of thousands of failures over a three year period that cost an average of $5K to repair resulting in a class action lawsuit when MB wouldn't issue a recall and the failures typically occurred just after the car was out of warranty.
BebuLamar wrote:
You quoted the reason and here why it matters.
"Are Japanese fingers more agile and capable of precision work than fingers in India, China, Europe or elsewhere around the world?"
Either the Japanese are better workers or the companies cheated the workers from South East Asia. Either case it's not a good thing and I do not support companies that do so.
Unlike Japanese cars companies have their production in the US because it's where they sell the most cars. They don't sell the most cameras in South East Asia. The make it there only the cheat the poor workers.
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They don't "Cheat" the workers, if they weren't there the workers wouldn't have jobs, every company doesn't cheat it's workers, sure they may be assholes, or insensitive, but the reality is those people chose to work there, it's better than their previous subsitance.
Have you heard of Mr Demming(first name escapes me?
BebuLamar wrote:
So what? I am talking about cameras and not lenses. Didn't say that any thing is useful or not.
Guess you are not familiar with these!
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In my prior work life, I worked on a projects involving bringing Mexico auto operations into North American operations. For over four years, we worked hand-in-glove with Mexican auto specialists of all disciplines. They were at least as industrious, if not more, than any other workers. The problem always lay with the attitude of companies, bosses, and politicians. Mexicans also work within stifling government power, and they are taught at an early age, not to challenge those in power.
Their existing products were all based on previously engineered North American vehicles, but changed somewhat for the Mexican market. They inherited tooling, fixtures, and a lot of manufactured parts directly from North American suppliers. Their trucks were at least two cycles behind, as well as passenger cars being as many as four cycles behind North America.
The aim of our project was to move their product lines to be in the same cycle as that of the rest of North America. The project was a success, thanks in no small part to our Mexican counterparts.
I worked in the financial and IT areas, and their financial interfaces with the government were a disaster, in our experiences from North America. The Mexican automakers were required to remit taxes daily on finished products at the time they were shipped, an accounting nightmare. When asked why they didn't negotiate with the government to remit taxes on a monthly or quarterly cycle, we were told that those types of negotiations just weren't done. And those weren't the only example.
The people with whom I dealt were bright, spoke better English than my Spanish, were delightful hosts, and I spent many an evening at their homes, and got my own personal tours of the "sights".
Fredrick
Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
BebuLamar wrote:
It seems for sometimes that the Japanese make most of the cameras on the market but in reality about only Canon cameras are made by the Japanese now.
Both of my Fuji cameras (X-T2 and x100V) are made in Japan.
Would you want a camera made by forced child labor or prison labor?
Fredrick wrote:
Both of my Fuji cameras (X-T2 and x100V) are made in Japan.
But not the X-T3 and only some of the X-T4.
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