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Jun 3, 2021 12:16:36   #
Canisdirus
 
Fredrick wrote:
All you have to do is look at the numbers. Pretty simple. FYI, NYC reported ZERO deaths yesterday from Covid.


Well, the Governor finally stopped sticking covid ppl into the nursing homes...that sure helped.
The infirmed are always at risk...from any infectious disease.
But it sure inflates the numbers...

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Jun 3, 2021 12:48:39   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Well, the Governor finally stopped sticking covid ppl into the nursing homes...that sure helped.
The infirmed are always at risk...from any infectious disease.
But it sure inflates the numbers...


The only people dying now from Covid are younger people who haven’t received the vaccine for whatever reason. Again ... facts.

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Jun 3, 2021 13:05:15   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
Canisdirus wrote:
They need a better beer to motivate me.
But I doubt there is one good enough to make me do it.
I've had the virus...2 days of meh.
My body did its work...no need for a vaccine.


You are apparently in the fortunate majority--but too many have suffered severe effects. I was never happier to get a stick in the arm when it was made available to me. But then I'm old, fat and diabetic so my risk factors were much higher. I do have a daughter in law however who is declining, despite serious health factors. Hope we all get thru this thing.

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Jun 3, 2021 13:08:06   #
Canisdirus
 
Fredrick wrote:
The only people dying now from Covid are younger people who haven’t received the vaccine for whatever reason. Again ... facts.


The problem there is that a lot of falsification of death certificates is occurring.
Minnesota estimates 40% of covid declared deaths are false.

New Jersey reports that almost 90% of patients who had COVID-19 listed as a cause of death had a 'Do Not Resuscitate Order' in place before their hospitalization. So these folks were already plenty sick.

The CDC has already admitted that their testing was faulty and resulted in a lot of false positives.

The whole thing is a ... mess.

Politics has corrupted the entire issue.

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Jun 3, 2021 13:59:28   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
Canisdirus wrote:
The problem there is that a lot of falsification of death certificates is occurring.
Minnesota estimates 40% of covid declared deaths are false.

New Jersey reports that almost 90% of patients who had COVID-19 listed as a cause of death had a 'Do Not Resuscitate Order' in place before their hospitalization. So these folks were already plenty sick.

The CDC has already admitted that their testing was faulty and resulted in a lot of false positives.

The whole thing is a ... mess.

Politics has corrupted the entire issue.
The problem there is that a lot of falsification o... (show quote)


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Jun 3, 2021 14:13:55   #
CaltechNerd Loc: Whittier, CA, USA
 
Bless you, and bless the lives of the people you've saved.

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Jun 3, 2021 15:12:47   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
controversy wrote:
So, what does everyone think about the recently acknowledged fact that only about one-half of the employees of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have been vaccinated?

Any thoughts as to what that might mean about the vaccine?


I think it says more about the employees than the vaccine. Willing to risk lives, both theirs and that of any hapless stranger they may come into contact with.

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Jun 3, 2021 15:32:27   #
Graveman Loc: Indiana
 
I might go for a second round if they offered better beer.

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Jun 3, 2021 16:37:47   #
ricardo00
 
controversy wrote:
So, what does everyone think about the recently acknowledged fact that only about one-half of the employees of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have been vaccinated?

Any thoughts as to what that might mean about the vaccine?


It is an interesting question. However as Dr. Walensky (the head of the CDC) acknowledged, since the Federal government doesn't require one to tell their employer whether they have been vaccinated, no one really knows. The replies of the two other people (Dr. Fauci and Dr. Marks) are pure guesses. There could of course be some employees at these institutions who haven't been vaccinated for many reasons. Personally, my whole family has been vaccinated and am very happy that we were.

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Jun 3, 2021 16:53:49   #
controversy Loc: Wuhan, China
 
Alafoto wrote:
I think it says more about the employees than the vaccine. Willing to risk lives, both theirs and that of any hapless stranger they may come into contact with.


Your comment regarding risk applies only to hapless strangers who, likewise, have not been vaccinated. Immunization quid pro quo in action?

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Jun 3, 2021 16:56:44   #
controversy Loc: Wuhan, China
 
ricardo00 wrote:
It is an interesting question. However as Dr. Walensky (the head of the CDC) acknowledged, since the Federal government doesn't require one to tell their employer whether they have been vaccinated, no one really knows. The replies of the two other people (Dr. Fauci and Dr. Marks) are pure guesses. There could of course be some employees at these institutions who haven't been vaccinated for many reasons. Personally, my whole family has been vaccinated and am very happy that we were.


...and some may lie and say they have been vaccinated. Secrets work both ways. The problem with unknowables is that they can't be known.

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Jun 3, 2021 17:02:57   #
keywest305 Loc: Baltimore Md.
 
HIPAA protects the privacy of those who want it.

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Jun 3, 2021 17:25:30   #
ricardo00
 
controversy wrote:
...and some may lie and say they have been vaccinated. Secrets work both ways. The problem with unknowables is that they can't be known.


Also, the COVID pandemic showed us one thing, the people who work at the CDC are, like the rest of us, quite fallible. The initial test the CDC employees developed for the virus was a total failure, setting us back months in the fight against this virus. In addition they made many other mistakes, like not quarantining people who arrived on planes from the cruise ships with known cases of COVID. So not sure what it means if some of these people are against getting vaccinated, clearly not all of them have the best judgment.

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Jun 3, 2021 18:51:21   #
mr spock Loc: Fairfield CT
 
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Totally agree Mark

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Jun 4, 2021 06:50:26   #
exakta56 Loc: Orford,New Hampshire
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Well...there's nothing quite like rushing vaccines to market without thorough testing.
What could possibly go wrong...


It is obvious that no amount of persuasion will induce you to be vaccinated. I hope you continue to be spared.

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