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May 28, 2021 09:53:30   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
gorgehiker wrote:
You are still parroting Republican talking points from 2016. Where is Trump's health care plan?


It is estimated that affected 10 million American people that makes for a big ass lie.

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May 28, 2021 10:09:38   #
Triple G
 
gorgehiker wrote:
You are still parroting Republican talking points from 2016. Where is Trump's health care plan?


Anyone who has ever been in a health plan with a network knows that the doctors change all the time. Health plans tell people that same line every annual enrollment or when new health plans are implemented. To identify this as a big lie shows ignorance on how health plans work. Oh, trumps comment “who knew it was so complicated?”pretty much sums up the gop knowledge on the subject and their wanting to dismantle it without a replacement lacks understanding and empathy.

Despite gop efforts to disrupt the ACA, it is widely used and very much appreciated especially this past year.

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/patient-support-advocacy/physician-data-offer-new-insights-aca-s-coverage-impact

https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20210407.344843/full/

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May 28, 2021 10:39:22   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kraken wrote:
Overall, we rate the Daily Beast Left-Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that favor the left. We also rate them Mixed for reporting due to failed fact checks. (5/13/2016) Updated (M. Huitsing 04/30/2021)

Overall, we rate the Wall Street Journal Right-Center biased due to low biased news reporting combined with a strong right biased editorial stance. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to anti-climate, anti-science stances, and occasional misleading editorials. (7/18/2016) Updated (M. Huitsing 03/10/2021)
Overall, we rate the Daily Beast Left-Biased based... (show quote)


Just curious and in the sake of fairness, How would you rate the NYT and The Washington Post?

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May 28, 2021 10:56:42   #
trainspotter Loc: Oregon
 
krack.....NOBODY cares...we are learning to dodge your POO





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May 28, 2021 11:13:29   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
So what you're saying is the left has finally decided to install Kamala as president


Pretty sure that was decided when they decided to put her and SloMo on the ticket.

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May 28, 2021 11:50:59   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
Triple G wrote:
Anyone who has ever been in a health plan with a network knows that the doctors change all the time. Health plans tell people that same line every annual enrollment or when new health plans are implemented. To identify this as a big lie shows ignorance on how health plans work. Oh, trumps comment “who knew it was so complicated?”pretty much sums up the gop knowledge on the subject and their wanting to dismantle it without a replacement lacks understanding and empathy.

Despite gop efforts to disrupt the ACA, it is widely used and very much appreciated especially this past year.

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/patient-support-advocacy/physician-data-offer-new-insights-aca-s-coverage-impact

https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20210407.344843/full/
Anyone who has ever been in a health plan with a n... (show quote)


I guess based on your post that when Obama made that statement it showed he had absolutely no knowledge of the healthcare industry would that be correct?

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May 28, 2021 12:10:40   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
usnpilot wrote:
It is estimated that affected 10 million American people that makes for a big ass lie.


The fact that a politician tries but cannot get legislation passed is not a lie.

The fact that a politician tells you 17 times, "You can keep your doctor and your health care premiums will go down by $2,500 if this bill is passed", and it caused the bill to be passed and that claim had no chance of happening, is a BIG lie that affected millions of people detrimentally.

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May 28, 2021 12:20:32   #
Triple G
 
usnpilot wrote:
I guess based on your post that when Obama made that statement it showed he had absolutely no knowledge of the healthcare industry would that be correct?


Yea, it was an overstated sales pitch probably repeating what Heath care insurance company executives told him. In the scheme of things, it doesn’t match up to Trump’s lies (or overstated sales pitches) regarding Mexico paying for the wall, the tax plan will pay for itself and help the middle class, the virus is not serious and the USA doesn’t need mitigation measures, and Antifa stormed the capitol. As far as detrimental reliance on a president’s words; under ACA you may need to find another doctor and under trump, people died due to not having a accurate information. They aren’t on the same seriousness scale.

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May 28, 2021 12:53:00   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
Triple G wrote:
Yea, it was an overstated sales pitch probably repeating what Heath care insurance company executives told him. In the scheme of things, it doesn’t match up to Trump’s lies (or overstated sales pitches) regarding Mexico paying for the wall, the tax plan will pay for itself and help the middle class, the virus is not serious and the USA doesn’t need mitigation measures, and Antifa stormed the capitol. As far as detrimental reliance on a president’s words; under ACA you may need to find another doctor and under trump, people died due to not having a accurate information. They aren’t on the same seriousness scale.
Yea, it was an overstated sales pitch probably rep... (show quote)


At the beginning of the pandemic your Democrat colleagues encouraged people to go out and mingle together just do a Google search of Bill de Blasio telling the New Yorkers to mingle Pel0si telling everybody to go to Chinatown. Both sides were complicit in spreading the virus.

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May 28, 2021 13:38:18   #
Triple G
 
usnpilot wrote:
At the beginning of the pandemic your Democrat colleagues encouraged people to go out and mingle together just do a Google search of Bill de Blasio telling the New Yorkers to mingle Pel0si telling everybody to go to Chinatown. Both sides were complicit in spreading the virus.


Who had the bully pulpit and opportunity to make the biggest difference?

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May 28, 2021 13:55:03   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
Triple G wrote:
Who had the bully pulpit and opportunity to make the biggest difference?


And what was the Democrats reaction when Trump shut down China? They called him racist guess what a bunch of hypocrites.

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May 28, 2021 13:56:41   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
gorgehiker wrote:
You are still parroting Republican talking points from 2016. Where is Trump's health care plan?


His health care plan is eat cheeseburgers and drink diet Coke and if you get sick it's your fault; don't expect the government to pay your doctor bills.

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May 28, 2021 13:57:35   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Just curious and in the sake of fairness, How would you rate the NYT and The Washington Post?


Look for yourself.



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May 28, 2021 14:00:36   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kraken wrote:
Look for yourself.


I'm sorry your center all leans far left, except for WSJ.

NPR, AP, BBC, Axios, Newsweek, USA Today, give me a break--all Liberal! Get abetter chart. Let me give you a hint. The Left Media outnumbers the Right by 3 to 1. The media is not evenly balanced as this chart shows. Even you should know that.

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May 28, 2021 14:01:47   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
usnpilot wrote:
And what was the Democrats reaction when Trump shut down China? They called him racist guess what a bunch of hypocrites.


President Donald Trump has repeatedly credited his February ban on travelers from mainland China as his signature move against the advance of the coronavirus pandemic -- a “strong wall” that allowed only U.S. citizens inside, he boasted in May.

But Trump’s wall was more like a sieve.

Exempted were thousands of residents of the Chinese territories of Hong Kong and Macau. Efforts to track U.S. residents returning from mainland China were riddled with errors and broken communications.

An analysis of Commerce Department travel entry records and private aviation data obtained by The Associated Press shows that nearly 8,000 Chinese nationals and foreign residents of Hong Kong and Macao entered the U.S. on more than 600 commercial and private flights in the first three months after the ban was imposed.

When U.S. residents flying from mainland China arrived at U.S. airports, the system meant to flag and monitor them for the development of symptoms lost track of at least 1,600 people in just the first few days the ban went into effect, according to internal state government emails obtained by the AP.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-us-news-ap-top-news-macau-virus-outbreak-355a58005d4f7c57978f6b7cba5dbd82

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