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May 25, 2021 09:55:05   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Rotate the camera?

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May 25, 2021 10:28:35   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Lots of ideas below. Somewhere in there is my favorite - the hacksaw. Gently cut into the collar of the filter in one or two spots, and you can remove it. That's a last resort, of course, but it beats damaging your lens.

Place upside down on rubber jar lid opener, mouse pad, etc.
Don’t grip top of filter too tight. That can spread thread area.
Put in freezer for about six minutes.
http://www.camerastupid.com/how-to-get-a-stuck-uv-filter-off-a-lens/
https://fstoppers.com/other/canons-terrifying-recommended-way-remove-stuck-filter-3988
https://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/how-to-remove-a-stuck-lens-filter/
https://nofilmschool.com/2017/06/no-tools-no-problem-how-remove-jammed-lens-filter-without-wrench
Lots of ideas below. Somewhere in there is my fav... (show quote)


And you clearly didn’t fully read his post.

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May 25, 2021 10:34:09   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
terpfan wrote:
I have several B&W polarizing filters which are virtually impossible to rotate. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Just to clarify, I can easily remove them from the lens, just can't rotate the filter on the lens.


Since the problem is the filter itself, you can attach and remove it easily from lens, I'd just get a new one and not mess with this one, except for curiosity.

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May 25, 2021 10:52:07   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
frankraney wrote:
Since the problem is the filter itself, you can attach and remove it easily from lens, I'd just get a new one and not mess with this one, except for curiosity.


That might be the ultimate solution, but B+W filters ain’t cheap.

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May 25, 2021 11:21:05   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Try a drop (1 only!!!) of WD-40 and let it sit. I had a similar problem, and that worked. Then you have to clean the filter very carefully and thoroughly, which is harder than getting it apart!

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May 25, 2021 11:52:25   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
terpfan wrote:
I have several B&W polarizing filters which are virtually impossible to rotate. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Just to clarify, I can easily remove them from the lens, just can't rotate the filter on the lens.


If they are not B+W Kaesemann design, oils cannot be used. You are probably limited to taking them to a camera repair shop for the proper spander wrenches (would be my choice) or try rinsing them in water. I would only use distilled water since ordinary water could leave mineral stains between the gratings which would be impossible to remove and potentially degrade your image quality. Put the filter into the bowl filled with distilled water and turn the pieces back and forth until they loosen up. Rinse them off and repeat the treatment in fresh distilled water. Rinse them again, rinse with 100% isopropyl alcohol, and put them on edge in the sun to dry. Make sure they totally dry. Or, again, just take them to the camera repair shop, have them take them apart, proper clean the surfaces, and put them back together again.

Again, without the Kaesemann design, anything that gets between that grating sandwiched between the two pieces of glass will be there for pretty much eternity. Anything between that grating starts destroying your polarization. This is why the sealed edge of the glass / grating sandwich (Kaesemann design) is desirable.

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May 25, 2021 12:01:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
wdross wrote:
If they are not B+W Kaesemann design, oils cannot be used. You are probably limited to taking them to a camera repair shop for the proper spander wrenches (would be my choice) or try rinsing them in water. I would only use distilled water since ordinary water could leave mineral stains between the gratings which would be impossible to remove and potentially degrade your image quality. Put the filter into the bowl filled with distilled water and turn the pieces back and forth until they loosen up. Rinse them off and repeat the treatment in fresh distilled water. Rinse them again, rinse with 100% isopropyl alcohol, and put them on edge in the sun to dry. Make sure they totally dry. Or, again, just take them to the camera repair shop, have them take them apart, proper clean the surfaces, and put them back together again.

Again, without the Kaesemann design, anything that gets between that grating sandwiched between the two pieces of glass will be there for pretty much eternity. Anything between that grating starts destroying your polarization. This is why the sealed edge of the glass / grating sandwich (Kaesemann design) is desirable.
If they are not B+W Kaesemann design, oils cannot ... (show quote)

Okay, I'll bite, what's the "Kaesemann design"?
Many people registering concerns of stiff rotation reference B&W. Coincidence?

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May 25, 2021 12:04:49   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
dpullum wrote:
At the top of the page you will find SEARCH and it will contain 1001 references to the times this has been covered.

Kymarto suggests:It's possible that the aluminum is oxidized, but also possible that the frame has taken a hit and is deformed, in which case there is not much to do.

by using simple paraffin lightly applied [and wiped almost off] to threads galling ... welding... can be prevented. the vapor pressure of paraffin is very low and thus does redeposit like oils.

If deformed, then leave in place but if you must remove it ... break the filter and then use needle nose pliers to twist and reduce the diameter of the filter metal ring. The use of jack hammers, cutting torches, and explosives suggested by others is not recommended!
At the top of the page you will find SEARCH and it... (show quote)


The problem isn't removing the filter, it is a polarizer that won't rotate. Not sure there are 1001 references to that situation.

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May 25, 2021 12:15:57   #
ecurb Loc: Metro Chicago Area
 
Bill_de wrote:
The problem isn't removing the filter, it is a polarizer that won't rotate. Not sure there are 1001 references to that situation.

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You're sure the filters are rotating mounts? I have Series size polarizing filters that are meant to be used in rotating mounts, or taped to the back of the lens, as I used to do with large format cameras.

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May 25, 2021 12:20:54   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
terpfan wrote:
I have several B&W polarizing filters which are virtually impossible to rotate. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Just to clarify, I can easily remove them from the lens, just can't rotate the filter on the lens.


I know others have suggested oil or soapy water. Again, if the filters are not Kaesemann designed (sealed edges of the grating / glass sandwich), that oil and soapy water can be drawn between the grating by capillary action and render the filter junk. If you are not willing to use a camera repair shop or try distilled water / alcohol, you will be relegated to using the filters as they are or throwing them away. There is a chance that the small drop of oil or the soapy water will not be drawn up between the grating by capillary action. But if it does, the suggestions of throwing away the filter is correct. There is no correction for oil or soapy film between the grating. There is even the risk that if you do not dry the filter long enough, mold can grow between the grating as one professional found out in the middle of the Amazon rainforest (rainforest = high humidity and rain).

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May 25, 2021 12:45:43   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Longshadow wrote:
Okay, I'll bite, what's the "Kaesemann design"?
Many people registering concerns of stiff rotation reference B&W. Coincidence?


Polarization is done by rotating two gratings. It uses the electro-mechanical propers of light to create the affect. The gratings are sandwiched between two pieces of glass. In other words, polarizers are built using 2 gratings and 4 pieces of glass in a rotating frame. Each grating is sandwiched between two pieces of glass. If the edges are not sealed, liquids can be drawn up by capillary action into the spaces between the grating lines. This will render the filter to junk. This is one of the reasons for the Kaesemann design (not the only one). B+W is one of the only manufacturers of such. That design will allow a drop of oil or soapy water since the sealed edge prevents any capillary action. I still would not suggest oil or soapy water since it could still get into the space between the two glass / grating sandwiches. Taking the filter apart is actually the best way to correct the problem, Kaesemann design or not. Otherwise, one uses the filter as is or, as some have suggested, one throws it away. I haven't priced it, but I would think it would be slightly cheaper to take them to the camera repair shop rather than buy new filters.

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May 25, 2021 13:07:55   #
banster Loc: PA, Ontario, N.C.,Key West
 
Had the same problem. Take a wide rubber band, 1/8” or so, and slightly less diameter than your lens. Stretch it around the filter, the part that is to rotate. Not much effort and it should turn the filter. They must oxide somewhat. The filter turns much easier for now.

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May 25, 2021 13:21:20   #
nathanweddings
 
I think Lonshadow's suggestion is best. I would put alcohol & mineral oil on a caterpillar & let it crawl around the stuck filters. Might not worl but would make an interesting submission to Ugly Hedghog. :)

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May 25, 2021 13:36:22   #
mikee
 
terpfan wrote:
I have several B&W polarizing filters which are virtually impossible to rotate. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Just to clarify, I can easily remove them from the lens, just can't rotate the filter on the lens.


Can soak in warm soapy water. Or can take to on optometrist, jewelry store, or most vets and use their ultrasonic cleaner.

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May 25, 2021 13:36:31   #
k2edm Loc: FN32AD
 
WD40 great stuff & definately worth trying

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