Traveling to France in October- which camera? (Page 4): You are out of touch with reality. Professional tests show your assertion is rubbish. I saw no difference in the overlapping...

IDguy Loc: Idaho

murphle wrote:

The 24-70 F4 isn't going anywhere. I have the 14-3... (show quote)

You are out of touch with reality. Professional tests show your assertion is rubbish.

I saw no difference in the overlapping ranges so did the research. It confirmed what I saw.

I don’t know what mistake you made in the one image you tried but I’d hope you have a little intelligence that tells you how foolish it is to make a broad conclusion from one uncontrolled test.

Here is just one of many: https://youtu.be/m7AkjAP1IMM

The Photo Guy

Sorry if I’m swimming upstream here. If you’re going with a group and will be on various tours, I’d leave your expensive gear at home and take a late model smart phone with an excellent built in camera. I’ve been to France and other countries and learned a valuable lesson. You’ll be left behind by your tour group and/or they will become very frustrated with you holding them up to get that “perfect shot”. I’d only take my gear when traveling alone or with a few friends, who would be willing to go at my pace. You’ll find many of the people touring these days doing as I’ve suggested. You’ll have the peace of mind that your valuable equipment is safely stored at home and awaiting your return. Safe travels and enjoy their wonderful croissants, crapes and baguettes!

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

It’s a trade off of light weight/size vs low light performance. How much indoor shooting do you intend to do? If very little, I might choose the Oly, if a lot, I’d choose the Nikon. When traveling, I generally prefer small and light (and unobtrusive) - hence the reason I bought my Fuji.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

I would suggest a Chamoix View Camera. http://www.chamonixviewcameras.eu/

They are made in France and would easily understand the culture and language thus providing better photographs. It may be a bit bulky to carry and will need a tripod but the photographs could be spectacular.
--Bob

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Alyn McConnaha Loc: Lebanon, IN

YOU WILL HAVE A BALL! (That's an order). I spent a couple of years in France and Germany, courtesy of our Uncle Sam. (Also spent a week in England, with a local escort.)My advice--TAKE PICTURES--lotsa pix and label them ASAP.

Alyn

bikerguy

rmalarz wrote:

I would suggest a Chamoix View Camera. http://www.chamonixviewcameras.eu/

They are made in France and would easily understand the culture and language thus providing better photographs. It may be a bit bulky to carry and will need a tripod but the photographs could be spectacular.
--Bob

Now the 24" x 20" is truly a full frame, 36 mm x 24 mm is just a tiny cropped sensor!

Alyn McConnaha Loc: Lebanon, IN

PLEASE do not line everyone up like a firing squad!!
Shoot them when they are not looking!! Show them having fun. show a unique building or something as an I.D.

Alyn

revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson

First trip to France 1970 with Olympus 35mm film camera manual focus with needle capture exposure setting. Last trip to France Canon T2i with 18-135 lens. Can't say pictures better with either setup. The eye of the beholder is critical.

revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson

First trip to France 1970 with Olympus 35mm film camera manual focus with needle capture exposure setting. Last trip to France Canon T2i with 18-135 lens. Can't say pictures better with either setup. The eye of the beholder is critical.

murphle Loc: Wisconsin

CHG_CANON wrote:

Think about passing someone else inside the Cathedral of Saint Stephen in Metz. Which camera would they need to be using to impress you? That is the camera to take.

Too funny! C’mon now.... it’s funny - when I shoot with the Olympus in Mke with the FF shooters, they make fun of me. It’s an exercise in ego management. I don’t need the biggest to feel adequate:) but still miss the Z if I leave it behind:)

murphle Loc: Wisconsin

The Photo Guy wrote:

Sorry if I’m swimming upstream here. If you’re goi... (show quote)

Great advice:) I will take one of the two as I’m not obligated to be with the group when we go to the different towns. I’m probably going to take the Olympus with one lens. We’ll see.

hrblaine

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I like that Oly two lens idea, otherwise Nikon. Harry

murphle Loc: Wisconsin

hrblaine wrote:

I like that Oly two lens idea, otherwise Nikon. Harry

Me too. There seem to be many travelers who say travel light. My sister says the same and she travelled to the EU a lot before the big C. She looked at the two cameras side-by-side the other day and shook her head, said, "I don't know, Pol, you're going to be doing a lot of walking. What does the bigger one give you that the smaller one doesn't?" Well..... better IQ. The Olympus is a very nice camera. I love both cameras, which is what makes it so difficult. I can run both on the fly equally the same. No 'speed' difference for me, one to the other. BUT this morning I went to Milwaukee with the Oly to prove a point to myself. A small bag, with a 9-18mm and a 12-40 2.8 on the camera. Brought the tripod, didn't need it. Took several shots at 4s with no issue, look like they were on a tripod.

I'm going to shoot more with the Olympus, traveling ultra-light to see how I feel about it.

JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell

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Is the Z7 weatherproof? I know the Olympus is so that would be my choice and also the Oly is smaller and lighter than the full frame Nikon. I doubt there's little observable difference in image quality. Keep well in your travels.

bikerguy

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Once you travel super light you will never go back. We have travelled for u to four weeks with a carry on and backpack for each of us. The bottom half of the backpack carries our individual camera gear, chargers, batteries and other miscellaneous stuff. When we went to Scotland in 2019 we each took our Oly em1m2 with the 14-150 and I brought the 9-18 as well and had extra room in our baggage and backpacks.