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May 9, 2021 18:15:02   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A recent study found that 68% of the statistics on 34% of the discussion boards are 91% made up.


sometimes

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May 9, 2021 19:07:13   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
fantom wrote:
How do you know "90% of the subscribers use only 10% of its abilities"? Seems like an improbable WAG.


Which is why I said "If"

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May 9, 2021 19:15:01   #
teammt
 
Very cool. No one really post processes the same way. I like LR for cataloging and import, Bridge and ACR or Canon DPP4 for Raw and Ps and Nik plugins.

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May 9, 2021 19:26:19   #
Guzser02
 
It's not that complicated. You copy the RAW file (CTR+C in windows) then you send one of them to Topaz. Topaz returns the processed file in its original format, and you can proceed with any PP on the editor of your choice.
There is nothing wrong with a TIFF (8 or 16 bit) file, if one prefers to go that route.

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May 9, 2021 19:45:38   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
Bill_de wrote:
Which is why I said "If"

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And, "If" sounds like a highly improbable possibility and is why I said "WAG".

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May 9, 2021 19:55:52   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
fantom wrote:
And, "If" sounds like a highly improbable possibility and is why I said "WAG".


I actually prefer SWAG,
Scientific Wild Ass Guess!

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May 10, 2021 01:46:24   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
fantom wrote:
You say, "Then I process the image much easier and faster with the plug-ins of Topaz (Adjust AI, Denoise AI, Sharpen AI, Clean, ReMask) and Lumina AI."

I have found these programs that you mention to be somewhat faster than grass growing (in the winter) but much slower than LR. Processing in LR is the same as ACR in PS. If you are processing RAW images LR and PS are usually the most complete and fastest way to go.

The Topaz programs can do a better job than LR or PS but I use them only as needed becuz of their relatively slow as molasses process and save times.
You say, "Then I process the image much easi... (show quote)



...upgrade your hardware and speed is much less of an issue. I love the interaction between LR and PS and use Topaz (and other) plug-ins freely in both, and don't really notice Topaz's slowness. Sure, it takes a few seconds, but my hardware is up to the task. <shrug>

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May 10, 2021 03:09:56   #
GPS Phil Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A recent study found that 68% of the statistics on 34% of the discussion boards are 91% made up.


But the latest study proved that to be untrue 87% of the time! (Sorry, I just couldn't help myself)

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May 10, 2021 05:21:52   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
LR is an amazingly capable program. However the absence of layers often causes a need to move to PS for a few tweaks, or sometimes many. I occasionally - rarely - use On 1 and Portrait Pro, but if you pay attention to composition and light in the original RAW photo, they're rarely needed.
I started with PS years ago, but Adobe has done very well for me, and evolving with both LR & PS, and occasionally with Illustrator and After Effects, is all I've needed.
So NO, LR is gaining value, not losing it.

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May 10, 2021 07:13:28   #
Gspeed Loc: Rhinebeck, NY
 
abc1234 wrote:
Is Lightroom losing value for me? No and it gets more valuable every day.

Lirghtroom handles 95% of my processing and 100% of the cataloging. The rest is in Photoshop. If you learn the Adobe tools, you will have little need for other products. In the end, do the others really give you a product that you cannot get in LR/PS? The cataloging is great. I can find photos in under three seconds in LR out of 50,000 pictures.

I am sure the other products are good with friendlier user-interfaces. Want to make life easier in LR? Create your own presets. I rarely spend more than three minutes on a picture in LR and I do not need an extra DNG or TIFF to take up space and time.

Try it. Maybe you will like it.
Is Lightroom losing value for me? No and it gets ... (show quote)


What presets do you use that makes future searches so easy?

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May 10, 2021 10:20:00   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
abc1234 wrote:
Is Lightroom losing value for me? No and it gets more valuable every day.

Lirghtroom handles 95% of my processing and 100% of the cataloging. The rest is in Photoshop. If you learn the Adobe tools, you will have little need for other products. In the end, do the others really give you a product that you cannot get in LR/PS? The cataloging is great. I can find photos in under three seconds in LR out of 50,000 pictures.

I am sure the other products are good with friendlier user-interfaces. Want to make life easier in LR? Create your own presets. I rarely spend more than three minutes on a picture in LR and I do not need an extra DNG or TIFF to take up space and time.

Try it. Maybe you will like it.
Is Lightroom losing value for me? No and it gets ... (show quote)



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May 10, 2021 10:30:12   #
pecohen Loc: Central Maine
 
tenny52 wrote:
Currently and most of the time, I only need LR for its White-balance, Lighting functions and Raw-Jpeg conversion. Then I process the image much easier and faster with the plug-ins of Topaz (Adjust AI, Denoise AI, Sharpen AI, Clean, ReMask) and Lumina AI. Do you agree?


I have had a similar experience though I use Topaz Studio more than any of the stand-alone Topaz tools. Still, I do find LR pretty useful for a little initial editing and for sorting out the best photos from the others. It still has a lot of value for image management and, if I could get in the habit of adding good keywords, it would be helpful for finding old images.

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May 10, 2021 10:33:23   #
Naldo
 
Lightroom is VERY popular on here, and some people online in forums tend to get a little tribal about their preferences. Personally, I think you can still express your support and preference for something without becoming insulting, dismissive, and condescending.

Sadly, when shielded from natural, face-to-face human engagement, online armchair warriors often behave & speak in ways in which they would never dare in-person. If you don't like a topic, a question, a comment, or an observation, you are free to move on, or to express your own insights in a helpful way. There is no need, and no benefit to being unkind.

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May 10, 2021 14:00:22   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
tenny52 wrote:
Currently and most of the time, I only need LR for its White-balance, Lighting functions and Raw-Jpeg conversion. Then I process the image much easier and faster with the plug-ins of Topaz (Adjust AI, Denoise AI, Sharpen AI, Clean, ReMask) and Lumina AI. Do you agree?


It is always good to have a workflow that fits you.

I don't use Topaz since I have a workflow that fits me and at my age, inertia and lack of time keeps me from trying all the new things I might want to. So I stick with my current workflow which uses predominantly LR and PS. There is also the fact that my eyes are not seeing problems in my photos that are large enough to really dig into it.

It's not a matter of whether I agree with you or not. You are welcome to stick to your system and I will probably stick with mine.

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May 10, 2021 15:06:11   #
GreenDruid Loc: Toronto, Canada
 
tenny52 wrote:
Currently and most of the time, I only need LR for its White-balance, Lighting functions and Raw-Jpeg conversion. Then I process the image much easier and faster with the plug-ins of Topaz (Adjust AI, Denoise AI, Sharpen AI, Clean, ReMask) and Lumina AI. Do you agree?


There is also cheaper or free software. Adobe can't keep up with others.

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