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May 8, 2021 18:49:46   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Hodge wrote:
I find it amusing when woketards argue about different treatment of men and women while arguing that there is no difference between men and women and that gender being a social construct is simply a matter of choice.

If you don't think you are being paid enough as one gender choose one of the other 52.

I laughed my ass off watching a video of a non-binary thing moaning about planned parenthood treating it as a woman while it was having an abortion (at least the gene pool dodged that bullet).
I find it amusing when woketards argue about diffe... (show quote)


As a Republican, I expect you will be supporting Kaitlin Jenner. That should be interesting.

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May 8, 2021 19:46:56   #
btbg
 
thom w wrote:
Where is your evidence that women are paid at the same rate as men? If I had agreed with you up to that point, that statement would have woken me up.


There are a number of reasons why women tend to make less in the workforce than men. None of those reasons are directly because of gender. For example women doctors tend to see fewer patients per hour and also work fewer hours than male doctors.

Women professional athletes make less money than men because advertising revenue is much less, so the two jobs are not comparable as far as market value.

Women still take high paying blue collar jobs such as plumbing and construction at lower rates than men, instead opting for lower paying jobs.

Women also miss more work because they are the ones that most frequently stay home with sick children as well as missing more time due to child birth than men. So, women have fewer hours of work on average than men in the same jobs. As a result they are more likely to be passed over for promotion or to not get a raise, but the reason isn't because of gender, it is because of experience and hours worked.

If you look up pay equity stats you will see that women doing the same job with the same experience actually tend to make slightly higher than men.

Some articles explaining.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/an-economist-explains-why-women-get-paid-less/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/no-women-dont-make-less-money-than-men

https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2019/06/06/dispelling-myths-about-the-gender-pay-gap/?sh=1a7b12d346fa

The Forbes article is particularly relevant as it gives a specific example of a woman who sued the University of Oregon for pay discrimination, and lost her suit.

even the huffington post which is claiming there is a gender gap in the following link still has reasons listed that there may not really be a pay gap.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/women-paid-less-men_n_56f16a22e4b03a640a6bbdc6

You will not that in the middle of their article saying that women make 72 cents on the dollar compared to men they offer the following statement. "Glassdoor looked at pay information shared by the site’s users, including about 504,000 full-time salaries. It found that 54 percent of the gender pay gap is attributable to the differences in jobs men and women hold and the industries in which they work, according to the study. Differences in experience and education drive a smaller portion of the gap.

Women in the U.S. make 76 cents on average for every dollar a man earns, according to the Glassdoor report. Federal data puts that gap at 78 cents. Other research, from Francine Blau at Cornell University, has also found that a majority of the pay difference can be explained by difference in occupations and jobs."

And, finally a study from Harvard that shows that much of the difference in pay is because of choices such as turning down last minute overtime, or choosing not to work weekends. Things that not only impact pay, but also impact future promotions, furthering the "wage gap"

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/bolotnyy/files/be_gendergap.pdf

Hopefully you will at least look at part of the evidence. There is a lot more where that comes from.

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May 8, 2021 19:53:14   #
Hodge Loc: England
 
Frank T wrote:
As a Republican, I expect you will be supporting Kaitlin Jenner. That should be interesting.


Nope. America already has too many mentally ill people in politics - Biden and all the TDS sufferers for example.

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May 8, 2021 21:19:26   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
SteveR wrote:
I studied the statistics a couple of years ago and related them to a black friend. She didn't care what the statistics said. Notice, too, that all of the high profile shootings that make the news are of blacks. Shootings of whites just don't seem to be that newsworthy.


I agree they are stirring discord.
What would be a fair to add a more accurate picture would be to do a per capita comparison. I did a quick search and couldnt find anything.

If there is anyone who is good in math stats etc. and somewhat bored. It would be appreciated if u felt like producing a lightweight guess.

I have been curious about it for a while

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May 8, 2021 21:22:55   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Hodge wrote:
Nope. America already has too many mentally ill people in politics - Biden and all the TDS sufferers for example.


So you will be voting for Newsom?

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May 8, 2021 21:44:14   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
thom w wrote:
May be? Are there or aren't there?


In the real world things are seldom black or white. The questio is WHy is this person in the same job as that person paid differently? I oftem made more $ than some in the exact same job at the same organisation and less than others. Why? they were more or less productive

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May 8, 2021 22:15:50   #
Hodge Loc: England
 
thom w wrote:
So you will be voting for Newsom?

I know the democrats are keen on making it really easy for anyone to vote in American elections.

If I ask do you think California will send a mail in ballot to an Englishman in England?

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May 9, 2021 13:34:31   #
trainspotter Loc: Oregon
 
soba1 wrote:
Biden a racist...........nooooooo

Biden is JUST a puppet.....It's the people pulling his strings (and there are many) that ARE racists.

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May 9, 2021 13:36:58   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
trainspotter wrote:
Biden is JUST a puppet.....It's the people pulling his strings (and there are many) that ARE racists.


It’s obvious and if anyone think he is making decisions think again.

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May 9, 2021 13:42:39   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Hodge wrote:
I know the democrats are keen on making it really easy for anyone to vote in American elections.

If I ask do you think California will send a mail in ballot to an Englishman in England?


Based on your posts yesterday, you seem more interested in a fight than a discussion. Good luck finding someone to fight with.

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May 9, 2021 21:53:33   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
soba1 wrote:
I agree they are stirring discord.
What would be a fair to add a more accurate picture would be to do a per capita comparison. I did a quick search and couldnt find anything.

If there is anyone who is good in math stats etc. and somewhat bored. It would be appreciated if u felt like producing a lightweight guess.

I have been curious about it for a while


Couple points.





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May 10, 2021 08:35:06   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Hodge wrote:
Nope. America already has too many mentally ill people in politics - Biden and all the TDS sufferers for example.


Why didn't you take that into account when you voted for Trump. He's clearly a narcissistic sociopath, yet you support him.
Why is that?

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May 10, 2021 08:52:35   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Frank T wrote:
Why didn't you take that into account when you voted for Trump. He's clearly a narcissistic sociopath, yet you support him.
Why is that?


I would love to see an honest reply to that one.

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May 10, 2021 09:16:13   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
"Systemic racism" isn't only about police violence against black people. The term refers to all of the inequities throughout our society.

Wikipedia: "Institutional racism, also known as systemic racism, is a form of racism that is allegedly embedded through laws within society or an organization. It can lead to such issues as discrimination in criminal justice, employment, housing, health care, political power, and education, among other issues. Institutional racism can have harmful effects on people, especially on students in school where it is prominent."

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May 10, 2021 10:57:06   #
trainspotter Loc: Oregon
 
gorgehiker wrote:
"Systemic racism" isn't only about police violence against black people. The term refers to all of the inequities throughout our society.

Wikipedia: "Institutional racism, also known as systemic racism, is a form of racism that is allegedly embedded through laws within society or an organization. It can lead to such issues as discrimination in criminal justice, employment, housing, health care, political power, and education, among other issues. Institutional racism can have harmful effects on people, especially on students in school where it is prominent."
"Systemic racism" isn't only about polic... (show quote)


F..k Wikipedia...(WHO decides what wikipedia determines about ANYTHING?)...IF that is your ONLY resource or "reference to the meaning of words or phrases"....NO WONDER....once again F..K wikipedia

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