Canon R6 Electronic Shutter: I shot this female Ruby-throated Hummingbird a couple of days ago using the electronic shutter due to her rapid movements, hoping to get more keepers. My...

dglueck Loc: Rochester, NY

I shot this female Ruby-throated Hummingbird a couple of days ago using the electronic shutter due to her rapid movements, hoping to get more keepers.

My question is: the upper wing (circled in red) has a venetian blind appearance at the edges. Is this an affect of the electronic shutter that some have mentioned? I didn't have a chance to shoot with the mechanical shutter before she flew off and I haven't seen any since.

Canon R6 + RF 24-240 zoom. 240mm, 1/4000, f6.7, ISO 10,000, spot meter, Auto WB, Electronic shutter, no flash

Photo is un-cropped and un-enhanced except for the red oval.

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SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

That looks like the natural curve of the wing to me.

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

I wouldn’t be too concerned unless the phenomenon is repeatable. That wing is moving pretty fast with your 1/4000 shutter speed. For what it’s worth, sources report that Canon is supposedly working on a FW fix to address the issue for the R5 and R6.

wjones8637 Loc: Burleson, TX

On download I see streaks that pretty well match up with darker areas where feathers meet. Despite the high shutter speed this wing appears to give motion blur. I can’t explain why only one wing shows it. Most of the image is in acceptable focus. Is this a significant crop?

goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl

47greyfox wrote:

I wouldn’t be too concerned unless the phenomenon is repeatable. That wing is moving pretty fast with your 1/4000 shutter speed. For what it’s worth, sources report that Canon is supposedly working on a FW fix to address the issue for the R5 and R6.

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Grey...

Can you help me understand your source for that information? I only are five and I would very much like to be on top of the status of firmware updates. Thanks in advance

Cheers
George Veazey

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Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.

dglueck wrote:

I shot this female Ruby-throated Hummingbird a cou... (show quote)

I think you might be looking for problems because of what you may have heard, but I think that photo looks normal to me.

dglueck Loc: Rochester, NY

Attached is the detail of what I'm talking about. I don't think it's the feathers.

Using firmware 1.3.1. The original posting was un-cropped and not modified.

This is more of a curiosity; it's not a show-stopper.

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Capn_Dave

dglueck wrote:

Attached is the detail of what I'm talking about. I don't think it's the feathers.

Using firmware 1.3.1. The original posting was un-cropped and not modified.

This is more of a curiosity; it's not a show-stopper.

Nope that is the natural curve of it's wing, The reason one wing has the twist and the other doesn't is because Hummingbirds are very maneuverable. They can turn while stationary and also even fly backwards

Hsch39 Loc: Northbrook, Illinois

Using the electronic shutter, you are dealing with the rolling shutter effect. I had the same problem last year with the Hummingbirds. Check out this:
https://www.diyphotography.net/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-rolling-shutter/

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

goldstar46 wrote:

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Grey...
Can you help me understand your source for that information? I only are five and I would very much like to be on top of the status of firmware updates. Thanks in advance
Cheers
George Veazey
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Sorry, George.... I wish I could and will try and find the source. I cruise a number of websites and watch a bunch of YouTube reviews and commentaries. I just can’t remember the source other than it seemed credible. I’ll make effort today and post if I find it. Here’s a start tho...

https://www.google.com/search?q=canon+r5+and+r6+rolling+shutter+issue&rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS606US606&oq=canon+r5+and+r6+rolling+shutter+issue&aqs=chrome..69i57.33469j1j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

BurghByrd Loc: Pittsburgh

Difficult to say for sure but one thing is certain, that's a beautiful shot. Electronic shutters are not recommended for fast action because they can produce the effect you describe. The Nikon Z7 ii manual indicates that in that application the ES is limited to shutter speeds of 1/2000 s or less, cannot be used with flicker reduction or with flash. An article in Photography Life discusses the differences between different shutter mechanisms and the pros and cons of each: https://photographylife.com/mechanical-electronic-shutter-efcs

goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl

47greyfox wrote:

Sorry, George.... I wish I could and will try and ... (show quote)

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Thank you so much Grey..

If you do find it, that would be a wonderful resource. If you don't that would be certainly understood and I am okay with that. Thanks for your response and anything you might be able to do in the future just shoot me a little message air and it would be appreciated

Cheers
George Veazey

LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773

dglueck wrote:

I shot this female Ruby-throated Hummingbird a cou... (show quote)

This is a natural look. I think what you are talking about is banding that usually occurs with artificial lighting. Natural light won't produce this banding effect.

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

goldstar46 wrote:

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Thank you so much Grey..
If you do find it, that would be a wonderful resource. If you don't that would be certainly understood and I am okay with that. Thanks for your response and anything you might be able to do in the future just shoot me a little message air and it would be appreciated
Cheers
George Veazey

Will do, George. By the way, what firmware are you running? I'm pretty sure 1.3.1 is the most current.

goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl

47greyfox wrote:

Will do, George. By the way, what firmware are you running? I'm pretty sure 1.3.1 is the most current.

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Grey

Last I looked, how about two weeks ago, yes, the current firmware version was 1.3.1

As for me, I am running 1.1.0 because I did a review of what was included in the upgrade oh, and it just was not important for me to do that at Great. Usually I do but the changes were so small and defected primarily video I did not worry about it at the time.

Cheers
George Veazey