Got Stopped Last Night taking Pictures
Oct 26, 2014 10:23:20 #
Tomcat5133
Loc: Gladwyne PA
The business card is OK. But frankly you can get cards
for $10 online. I am really a producer, never did a movie
but produced tons of stuff for corporations and institutions.
When I tell people what I do they are skeptical.
Distrust is pervasive in our society. That is the real issue.
for $10 online. I am really a producer, never did a movie
but produced tons of stuff for corporations and institutions.
When I tell people what I do they are skeptical.
Distrust is pervasive in our society. That is the real issue.
May 4, 2021 14:23:29 #
I have been stopped many times by the police for taking photos, usually for taking architectural photos. I was told as long as I stay on a public sidewalk or street it is legal to shoot private property. As for shooting kids and people I always talk to the parents or individuals if adults about my intentions out of courtesy and respect , even if it is after the fact.
May 4, 2021 14:27:03 #
Robert G wrote:
I have been stopped many times by the police for taking photos, usually for taking architectural photos. I was told as long as I stay on a public sidewalk or street it is legal to shoot private property. As for shooting kids and people I always talk to the parents or individuals if adults about my intentions out of courtesy and respect , even if it is after the fact.
I'm curious. How did you happen upon this 7 year old thread?
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May 4, 2021 14:57:06 #
Erv wrote:
It has happened to me a few times at fairs and cra... (show quote)
Yes I like you believe in my rights as well as the rights of others. I am never confrontational but do hold the line. I also don't take pics of children unless they just happen to be close to what I'm photographing. If we don't stand up for our rights they will be removed. I'm always polite and kind but will not be collared by others fears. I respect everyone and am kind to parents and don't take pics of their kids unless ask but if I take a pic of the Ferris wheel I don't expect any crap if I'm allowed to photograph at the venue.
May 4, 2021 14:58:09 #
Bill_de wrote:
I'm curious. How did you happen upon this 7 year old thread?
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Good point I fell for it too. Lol
May 4, 2021 15:02:03 #
dugole wrote:
I had a similar experience in Hawaii last spring as a 67 year old tourist. Putting all of the speculation, innuendo and paranoia aside, how many people at an event are snapping pictures with smart phones and no one notices or complains about that. You have a DSLR-type camera and you become paparazzi or some sort of deviant.
Thaz why I prize this one. It’s a normal mid-level m4/3 system camera with full feature set but really nothing above and beyond ... except for one verrrry special feature: Camouflage !!
It’s NOT forest color camo, it’s social camo. As you can see it’s red, and tiny, and BTW I should mention that it’s red. Did I tell you it’s red ? Oh, good. See, nobody takes it seriously cuz it’s red, and tiny, and red. I don’t need stealthy technique or invisibility.
It’s got everything a big scary SLR has, but never scares peeps, so I can use it openly. You look pretty creepy trying to cover up that you’re using a big SLR. I look harmless and doofy with my little red camera.
Think of those little spice jars full of onion powder or paprika. My 150mm (=300 FF) is about that size. And my ultrawides are pancakes, not big phallic Distagons with tulip hood extensions.
Hogsters love to bray about “the right tool for the job” ... then they wade into densely peopled scenes with a big lens on a big noisy camera. Typical UHH.
May 4, 2021 15:27:27 #
Bill_de wrote:
I'm curious. How did you happen upon this 7 year old thread?
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Some of us are fans of Zombie culture.
And this is a real world experience based thread so it’s timeless. If it were a 7 year old geeky GASsy gear thread, the gear under discussion would be long obsolete by now.
May 4, 2021 16:00:37 #
fjrwillie wrote:
Last night I went to a local carnival and figured ... (show quote)
You never know why a parent or person would voice a concern. One thing is an entitled "Karen" asserting her misconstrued "rights" but another might be a person seeking to remain anonymous for a variety of reasons - spouse abuse, witness protection, divorce situation, etc etc etc. It's best to take the high road, apologize and leave. You may have been at an event open to the general public, but if there is a price for admission to the fairgrounds, you are not in a public setting, and entirely subject to the carnival operator's rules, and that would include photography.
May 4, 2021 16:03:11 #
Nowadays, unfortunately, and sadly this is not an uncommon event. It is unfair, and a breach of freedoms and rights for law-abiding, ethical, and mentally stable photographers. As a community of photographers, amateur and professional, there is little anyone can do about a prevailing and somewhat perverted misconception about photographers and children.
Yes, there's a disturbing volume of child pornography and abuse in the world and folks seem to be painting all photographers with the same dirty brush. It is up to each photographer to exercise caution, especially when doig street photography, shooting on public beaches and pools, etc., and in and around schools.
There have been many cases where perfectly innocent photographers, just going about the work became involved in very nasty situations for absolutely no valid reason and no fault of thir own.
One of my photography students was shooting on a public beach. He was set upon by a hostile mob who restrained him and called the police. They seized his camera and all they found were images of the waves in the water. His equipment was damaged and he was injured. He launched a lawsuit and his legal fees exceed his compensation. Seems a mom thought he was shooting pictures of her kid while she was changing her diapers! UGH! The mom's excuse "he is a big overweight guy with messy hair"!
I was shooting the EXTERIOR of a building for a client, a commercial real estate agent advertising office space. A woman came out with a security guard yelling- "you can't do that- there are children INSIDE" Good thing I had a letter of permission from the landlord and his agent! I tried to explain that my camera could not see through concrete walls and the kids were INSIDE!
In 1968, I worked as a press photographer for a daily newspaper. On a slow summer news day, the editors would send me out to the parks to shoot the kids in the wading pool or the "bathing beauties" at the beach. The parents would come over and ask me if they could buy copies and when the picture would be published. Nowadays, they would certainly call the cops!
So..my policy is simple. I won't shoot any place where these kinds of problems can occur unless I have written permission from the property owner, the management, or whoever is in charge. If necessary, they have to supply security personnel to the site while I am working. You won't find me dead near a schoolyard with a camera or a playground unless I am hired by the school board or the park authority.
I am not minimizing the seriousness of child abuse and the thought of child pornography makes me wanna throw up! As a father and a grandfather, I can hardly think of anything worse. I understand where parents are coming from and have simply adjusted my policies accordingly.
I love making portraits of kids at my studio and on location, as long as the parents commission me to do that. I do fashion shoots of models in bathing and athletic attire at the studio or privately controlled locations. I won't pick up a camera without a signed contract and model release.
As Gene mentioned, on private property, entertainment and sports venues, amusement parks, etc. there is not necessarily any automatic given rights to photograph anyone or any things. It's entirely up to the management or ownership. Check out the rules and policies before you go there or shoot- you'll avoid all kinds of inconvenience and embarrassing situations. The same may apply to government, military, or other officially secured or restricted sites.
PS- Just last night on the Canadian National News there was a report- The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), in cooperation with the American and German authorities BUSTED the largest producer, purveyor and distributor of child pornography in the world. Seems, it was a huge worldwide network of distribution on the "dark web"- the largest seizure on record to date. Is it any wonder why parents are cautious to the point of paranoia?
Yes, there's a disturbing volume of child pornography and abuse in the world and folks seem to be painting all photographers with the same dirty brush. It is up to each photographer to exercise caution, especially when doig street photography, shooting on public beaches and pools, etc., and in and around schools.
There have been many cases where perfectly innocent photographers, just going about the work became involved in very nasty situations for absolutely no valid reason and no fault of thir own.
One of my photography students was shooting on a public beach. He was set upon by a hostile mob who restrained him and called the police. They seized his camera and all they found were images of the waves in the water. His equipment was damaged and he was injured. He launched a lawsuit and his legal fees exceed his compensation. Seems a mom thought he was shooting pictures of her kid while she was changing her diapers! UGH! The mom's excuse "he is a big overweight guy with messy hair"!
I was shooting the EXTERIOR of a building for a client, a commercial real estate agent advertising office space. A woman came out with a security guard yelling- "you can't do that- there are children INSIDE" Good thing I had a letter of permission from the landlord and his agent! I tried to explain that my camera could not see through concrete walls and the kids were INSIDE!
In 1968, I worked as a press photographer for a daily newspaper. On a slow summer news day, the editors would send me out to the parks to shoot the kids in the wading pool or the "bathing beauties" at the beach. The parents would come over and ask me if they could buy copies and when the picture would be published. Nowadays, they would certainly call the cops!
So..my policy is simple. I won't shoot any place where these kinds of problems can occur unless I have written permission from the property owner, the management, or whoever is in charge. If necessary, they have to supply security personnel to the site while I am working. You won't find me dead near a schoolyard with a camera or a playground unless I am hired by the school board or the park authority.
I am not minimizing the seriousness of child abuse and the thought of child pornography makes me wanna throw up! As a father and a grandfather, I can hardly think of anything worse. I understand where parents are coming from and have simply adjusted my policies accordingly.
I love making portraits of kids at my studio and on location, as long as the parents commission me to do that. I do fashion shoots of models in bathing and athletic attire at the studio or privately controlled locations. I won't pick up a camera without a signed contract and model release.
As Gene mentioned, on private property, entertainment and sports venues, amusement parks, etc. there is not necessarily any automatic given rights to photograph anyone or any things. It's entirely up to the management or ownership. Check out the rules and policies before you go there or shoot- you'll avoid all kinds of inconvenience and embarrassing situations. The same may apply to government, military, or other officially secured or restricted sites.
PS- Just last night on the Canadian National News there was a report- The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), in cooperation with the American and German authorities BUSTED the largest producer, purveyor and distributor of child pornography in the world. Seems, it was a huge worldwide network of distribution on the "dark web"- the largest seizure on record to date. Is it any wonder why parents are cautious to the point of paranoia?
May 4, 2021 16:46:27 #
IDguy
Loc: Idaho
fjrwillie wrote:
Last night I went to a local carnival and figured ... (show quote)
No limits to morons.
May 4, 2021 16:48:39 #
IDguy
Loc: Idaho
User ID wrote:
Thaz why I prize this one. It’s a normal mid-level... (show quote)
I also have GM5. It is small and light but not so hot at higher ISOs.
But then it is red....
May 4, 2021 16:52:40 #
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May 4, 2021 17:32:20 #
I'm going to take photos of my granddaughters lacrosse match soon. I guess I will ask permission from the parents present as I'm sure other kids will be in some of the pictures. I always too photos of her dance recitals and other kids are always in the pictures and no one ever complained or asked me to stop. If I'm asked I would always oblige. It's not worth the trouble!
May 4, 2021 18:49:40 #
Anyone in the public is fair game. Just watch any media cast. Any news cast that videos a public park, carnival, street fair, food fest, do you think they get written permission? Than the next question is what is a camera?
One would think a cell phone is worse than a camera taking still photos. Not all cameras take video and sound.
Enjoy your shooting.
One would think a cell phone is worse than a camera taking still photos. Not all cameras take video and sound.
Enjoy your shooting.
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