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Apr 30, 2021 09:08:37   #
RobertH
 
robertjerl wrote:
1. Lots of exposure to pictures of things she says she likes - ask, don't lecture find pictures on line or a book to look at.
2. pick a subject that "she" wants to photograph - ask her - and take her where that subject can be found
3. start with the camera on A so she just has to worry about getting it in the view finder
4. "simple" composition rules only one or two like "rule of thirds"* and leading lines, maybe natural framing/fill the frame and turn her loose to try on her own
5. then import them into a computer (or let her do it) and let her view them, do not start lectureing about which are bad, which are good and why, let her decide and then answer questions "I don't like this one." "Why?" xxxxxxxx, OK what could you do differently then? If she asks explain it "briefly" Or "I really like this one." "Why?" xxxxxxxx "Then remember to do that in more pictures."
6. Later get into things like exposure triangle and ease into it with the P setting and only change one setting at a time. Manual is far in the future.
7. still later you can get into more technical stuff, advanced composition etc.

MOST OF ALL JUST LET HER HAPPILY SNAP AWAY AND THEN VIEW HER IMAGES.

And most importantly be patient, the time line can vary up to several months to cover these steps. And if she loses interest do not try to force it. Let her go watch Paw Patrol or My Little Pony, play with her toys, etc. etc. etc. She may or may not come back to it in a day, week etc. Being forced is an almost guaranteed way to turn her off to the whole thing.

*I got out a selection of 8x10 and 8.5x11 prints and two sheets of clear overhead transparency film with dry erase markers. One had the rule of thirds grid printed on it and one was blank for marking. I then laid the printed one on images to show the rule of thirds, the blank one got laid on prints and I let our special needs son (at the time 26 with the mentality of a bright 5 year old) use the dry erase (I used it also) to mark things and then discussed them. And later I printed a few of his images and let him do the same things. His mother took the "classes" with him. Comment on our first trip to the park to take pictures "Why didn't someone show me this stuff 40 years ago?" (our oldest was 43 at the time-I wonder who "someone" is???) Our oldest isn't into photography - just casual snapshots etc. and the baby Jasmine won a T2i selling girl scout cookies in 12th grade and took it to UCLA where she learned by being one of the few girls in the photography club - lots of volunteers to teach her, some of whom could design and build digital cameras if they wanted to take the time.

Oh, I am a retired classroom teacher and taught photography one year and ran photo clubs several years while teaching history/geography/government.
1. Lots of exposure to pictures of things she say... (show quote)


Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I have started her off on AUTO, and plan to let her shoot that way until she has a question or reason to do something different, like “why is the subject so dark?”, or “why’s that moving thing so blurry?”

I do like the idea of using transparencies to demo the rule of thirds. I’ll keep that in mind.

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Apr 30, 2021 09:13:03   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
I'm old fashion. I would start her out with a 50mm and when she's out with you that's what you should shoot too. Subjects, anything she wants to take a picture of. If she is really interested she will take more pictures than you can process. I would never assigned subject. Take her places: The zoo, the park etc. and let her pick the subjects. She will be taking pictures not creating photographs. If she doesn't have fun she'll quit and never go back.


This is an excellent answer. A "standard" prime lens is far better than a wide zoom for a novice, and going places together to photograph various subjects that interest HER will do the job better than assignments alone. Positive feedback for her efforts are essential, and as her interests grow you can pick a few assignments, but better yet, have her pick most assignments with your help,. Review her shots on a mid to large monitor, with positive instruction on how they might be improved on the next try.
Try bragging about her in front of others - we all like compliments, and they often result in renewed effort to improve and repeat!

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Apr 30, 2021 09:13:37   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
quixdraw wrote:
Here are a few ideas. Things that begin with the alphabet letter... / X number of animals / looking in a different direction / Oldest and Newest of any set, buildings, cars and trucks, etc. / Pictures like postcards / Fast moving things / Tasty foods / Biggest and smallest flowers / Weather, good and bad / Attractive photos of cooking gear (or tools of any kind) / Things that use strings, etc. / Design a photo scavenger hunt with a list of items to capture.
Some of these can be readily cycled - could, should be fun, and to see the output as well!
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This gives me an idea: look for letters of the alphabet that are hidden in a scene and photograph them. For example, a winding river might have the letter 'S'. A wheel would have the letter 'O'. This can be an ongoing project for her.

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Apr 30, 2021 09:16:26   #
RobertH
 
billnikon wrote:
https://oneshutterspeed.com/photography-exercises-for-beginners/


Thanks, some good ideas in that link.

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Apr 30, 2021 09:20:31   #
RobertH
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I received the first camera wehn I was 7-years old. I fell in love with the camera as a really neat (toy) device- perhaps in that respect, I never grew up! Because I never could draw beyond stick figures and really wanted to express myself by making pictures. I remember loving to take pictures of things that interested me- not necesseralyy what my parents and family thought was a particularly good )traditional) idea. Seemed that pictures of OTHER that family members and friends, were a "waste of film". I was more interested in the cat, dogs in the street, and objects with interesting shapes like the ironwork on the readings on the outside stairway, fire hyderants and lamp posts with interesting shapes and designs and a few "pretty girls" in the neighbourhood.

I did manage to persevere and as long as I shot a few frames of mom, dad, grandma or my kid-cousins, I would be allowed to save up my allowance to buy rolls of Verichrome 127 and pay for some drugstore photofinishing. Occasionally my parents would subsidize my artistic endeavours.

Nick, a neighbourhood mechanic and service station operator was an avid amateur photographer. I would show him my pictures and he would advise me as to improvements- he really taught me the nuts and bolts and the basic of framing the image, not to shoot too far away, and not having the "pretty girls" squinting in the sunlight and shooting instead in the open shade.

At 10-years old the Bakelite Kodak Baby Brownie Special was upgraded to a 2 1/4 square Brownie Hawkeye with a flash holder. A year later came the Poney 35mm and I got to learn all about f/stops. shutter speeds, depth of field, and flashbulbs. I had a Kalart flash holder and a K-2 cloud filter. Nick gave me an octagon-shaped Weston exposure meter.

Luckily, I did learn the rudiments at an early age. I would write letters of technical enquiry to Kodak's Sales-Service Division and they would send me free Databooks. My adult friends did instill the disciplines but I considered all of it great FUN! Learning the technicalities does not need to be tedious, boring, or strenuous on a young person. The trick is that each time a method or technique is learned and it yields good, better or improved results there is intrinsic encouragement.

I have never had any pedagogical training, but I ain't a half-bad instructor or teacher of photography. If you are trying to teach a kid, just put yourself in the kid's shoes and think back to your own childhood and schooling. Which of your teachers motivated you, encouraged you and stimulated your interests. Which teachers were frustrated "drill instructors" and with put you to seep in their class or made you wanna play hookey. Just be the first kinda teacher.

In digital photography, there is instant gratification or disappointment so it's easy to teach kids to do this right and have fun at the same time.

At 6-years old- take it slow and easy. Firstly, set the camera on an automatic mode and let them get the feel of handling it. Some kids are more technically, scientifically, and/ or artistically inclined. You will soon find out. Everyone learns at a different rate so be patient. Introduce the manual adjustments according to the kid's progress. When they see how they can change things- they will get a kick out of it and catch on rather quickly.

Most importantly, encourage your 8-year-old to photograph people and things that interest her and to express her ideas in her pictures. Show here how to tell stories with images. Eventually introduce her to seeing light, textures and perspectives. Perhaps do a project such as a slideshow to preset to the family.
I received the first camera wehn I was 7-years old... (show quote)


Thanks for your thoughtful response as well. I’ve enjoyed reading many of your posts, especially in regards to portraiture, a subject I’d like to get much better at.

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Apr 30, 2021 09:23:33   #
dan59019 Loc: Washington Mi
 
I've encouraged the interest in photography in my 10 yr old grandgaughter simply by taking walks with her at interesting places. We both take a camera to places like the Zoo, wooded park trails, in the city, by RR tracks, looking for flowers or animals etc.
It has been a great way for us to have special time together and get to know each other. We both have fun comparing our photos and how differently we look at the same object? We both learn from each other and have fun!

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Apr 30, 2021 09:33:45   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
"...She has expressed a moderate interest, and has brought an old iPhone on outings to shoot with previously..." Robert, Paul nailed this...

The ubiquitous iPhone is rapidly becoming the tool of choice for the vast segment of the younger generation... I work with quite a few "Tweens" and it is the iPhone that totally rocks for them!

DSLR's are currently in their "Swan song" soon to become a relic of endearing times gone by...
Embrace change and champion the new paradigm Robert.
Your daughter will vastly benefit from same...

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Apr 30, 2021 09:35:35   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Approaching the issue of increasing an interest level from 'moderate' with the attitude of 'assignment' to the young learner is probably not going to be successful. Why not you taking the 'assignment' of learning how to be successful with an old iPhone, and then sharing / teaching that knowledge?



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Apr 30, 2021 10:28:57   #
WarpedWeaver
 
I agree that "assignments" might not be the best way to approach it. My son showed a lot of interest at that age (still does at age 23) but when we went out together, I kept it simple, like a challenge: can you find something yellow? What would you include in this shot? etc. He ended up doing a lot of stop motion movies with his legos and props he found around the house. He even did a school assignment as a stop motion movie. Find what she is passionate about photographing and go from there.

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Apr 30, 2021 10:34:22   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
RobertH wrote:
I’m curious if anyone has any good ideas or resources for photo projects / assignments that would be good for a novice 8 y/o?

I recently picked up a used Nikon D3100 with a 55-200m lens for my daughter to shoot/learn with, in the hopes of getting her more interested in photography. She has expressed a moderate interest, and has brought an old iPhone on outings to shoot with previously.

I have a D7500 with a few different lenses, so I’d like to find things we could go pursue together. I could always use the practice as well.

FYI, we live in Central Florida.
I’m curious if anyone has any good ideas or resour... (show quote)


Her favorite things, which may include any pets, places, friends, things she likes. You can go with her to help her understand how to use the camera. Let her go at her pace. This needs to be all about her.

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Apr 30, 2021 11:20:46   #
kcooke Loc: Alabama
 
The D3100 is a perfect beginners camera once they move to dslr from iPhone. Let kids pick what they want to shoot. Makes it more fun for them. You can add a AF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G DX VR for $36 used in good condition from MPB. This would round out the kit. I will say that my 15 year old niece has been shooting with an old retired iPhone for 7 years. She take better photos than the average adult with a dslr. She has a way of getting great composition

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Apr 30, 2021 13:54:07   #
RichinSeattle
 
I bought my two boys (around that age) Kodak point-and-shoot cameras; 2-3 MP, with zoom lenses, auto focus and exposure. (Early Nikon CoolPixes roughly the same but more expensive.) The feature they enjoyed the most, when playing with their friends, was the movie function (with stereo sound). I still have some of their "work" on a computer; they'll get a kick out of seeing it some day. No instruction, learning or assignments were required, and they used them for a few years.

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May 1, 2021 06:51:42   #
RobertH
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"...She has expressed a moderate interest, and has brought an old iPhone on outings to shoot with previously..." Robert, Paul nailed this...

The ubiquitous iPhone is rapidly becoming the tool of choice for the vast segment of the younger generation... I work with quite a few "Tweens" and it is the iPhone that totally rocks for them!

DSLR's are currently in their "Swan song" soon to become a relic of endearing times gone by...
Embrace change and champion the new paradigm Robert.
Your daughter will vastly benefit from same...
"...She has expressed a moderate interest, an... (show quote)


You, and a few others seem to share CHG_CANNON's view that my daughter and I should focus on getting good with an iPhone as opposed to a DSLR. I appreciate the viewpoint, but none of you have offered any suggestions as to HOW to go about that. The point isn't what gear to use, the question is, what are some good ideas to create a fun, interesting, engaging environment / activity to foster her interest? Just saying "learn to use the iPhone" without offering any suggestions on how to do that is not helpful. Do you know of any on-line courses, books, or blogs on the subject? Others here have offered a number of useful suggestions. Some have used the word "Challenge", with some ideas as to how to do that. I like that word. Perhaps if I had used that in my original post, folks wouldn't be so focused on the negative connotation of the word "Assignment", which I get.

Also, you seem to miss the point that the reason for the D3100 is because she sees me with the D7500 and thinks that's cooler than the iPhone.

Do any of you have any thoughts on what different approaches or techniques should be used when shooting with an iPhone vs. a DSLR?

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May 1, 2021 12:28:50   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Use landscape photography to introduce her to the idea of including a good foreground to go with whatever the subject is. With landscape photography the subject is usually distant scenery, but the same idea applies to other types of photography. A good foreground leads the viewer into the scene and can be used to guide the viewer's attention in the desired direction.

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May 1, 2021 12:36:43   #
WarpedWeaver
 
I would think the iphone would be less complex for her to use. She should learn like many of us do. Start by controlling one aspect (such as aperture), letting the camera choose the other settings, and working out how to get a good result. She sounds like a bright child; won't be long before she figures it out.

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