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Apr 22, 2021 08:23:34   #
agillot
 
i think the sun light angle was very low , so what you see is shadows .at the top picture , you see 2 or 3 small ones at the right of top triangle , and if you look , there is a small mount at left of those shadows .

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Apr 22, 2021 11:24:34   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
I saw a tiny person swimming in my coffee this morning. I burned my finger trying to rescue him.

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Apr 22, 2021 13:24:18   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
kpmac wrote:
I saw a tiny person swimming in my coffee this morning. I burned my finger trying to rescue him.



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Apr 22, 2021 14:09:24   #
Elias Amador
 
I just checked with NASA, and these lunar landers are legally registered to Count Dracula and his son. They plan to visit us next.

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Apr 22, 2021 14:36:45   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
Wallen wrote:
This is what I see. No spaceship there, only shadows.


Your evaluation of the image is, as my English friends would say, a load of rubbish. At least you are the only one who has visited the quickmap site. these two 300 foot long craft are probably creations of the good folks at area 51.

My work on the NASA programs, Surveyor and Apollo, has left me a much more curious person than I was before thinking about what is going on in space, particularly, anti-gravity. Nicola Tesla was the first human to know how to achieve it. He only lacked the power source, which turned out to be nuclear.

Thanks for your inputs. You failed to mention the parabolic antenna.

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Apr 22, 2021 14:40:58   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
Elias Amador wrote:
I just checked with NASA, and these lunar landers are legally registered to Count Dracula and his son. They plan to visit us next.


Good God Elias, that was not even a little clever. Better keep your day job.

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Apr 22, 2021 15:47:13   #
Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
 
Given what we know about the state of physics, astronomy and cosmology, I don't think there's any real doubt that there is other intelligent life in the universe. The real question is how to locate each other then bridge the gap and actually travel the humongous distances in reasonable periods of time. Given that any civilization is advanced enough to be capable of such, would they really want to commit the time and resources to do it. Hopefully the answers to those questions are yes.

To add a kernel of plausibility to these suppositions, the media is reporting our government is planning to release a report early this summer on the "confirmed sightings" of unknown craft that have been detected by our military by several different methods that appear to have capabilities that can't be explained by our current scientific understandings. Could be interesting.

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Apr 22, 2021 18:04:48   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Streets wrote:
Your evaluation of the image is, as my English friends would say, a load of rubbish. At least you are the only one who has visited the quickmap site. these two 300 foot long craft are probably creations of the good folks at area 51.

My work on the NASA programs, Surveyor and Apollo, has left me a much more curious person than I was before thinking about what is going on in space, particularly, anti-gravity. Nicola Tesla was the first human to know how to achieve it. He only lacked the power source, which turned out to be nuclear.

Thanks for your inputs. You failed to mention the parabolic antenna.
Your evaluation of the image is, as my English fri... (show quote)


Rubbish eh? Well that goes both ways. Since you can not disagree as a gentleman, I'd say your brain is rotten for not seeing something clear as day. You can not even read a map scale right. The 2 triangular shadows you are looking at is about 120 & 160 meters long. That's 393 & 525 feet long.
If your really working there in NASA, talk to guys who knows what is going on and get the right facts straight out the horses mouth. Your parabolic antenna is a crater. Just look at the edges, it is rough & wavy. Its not smooth as a precision device should be.

Low angle light and top view produce the effect seen on the photo
Low angle light and top view produce the effect se...

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Apr 22, 2021 20:10:39   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
Wallen wrote:
Rubbish eh? Well that goes both ways. Since you can not disagree as a gentleman, I'd say your brain is rotten for not seeing something clear as day. You can not even read a map scale right. The 2 triangular shadows you are looking at is about 120 & 160 meters long. That's 393 & 525 feet long.
If your really working there in NASA, talk to guys who knows what is going on and get the right facts straight out the horses mouth. Your parabolic antenna is a crater. Just look at the edges, it is rough & wavy. Its not smooth as a precision device should be.
Rubbish eh? Well that goes both ways. Since you ca... (show quote)


I have worked in the shadow of an 85 foot parabolic antenna dish at Goldstone Tracking Station which is north of Barstow, CA. so I have a fair idea of that genre of devices. It was called Pioneer Site. We Built what was called The Space Craft T.V. Ground Data Handling System. My other NASA job was the installation and debugging of the Apollo Mission Simulator, which took a bit over 10 months. I was a field engineer, working for Link General Precision at the time. I retired in 1996 as the chief guru of the flight simulator support group of American Airlines. I still miss that job.

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Apr 23, 2021 05:52:16   #
Michael1079 Loc: Indiana
 
Wallen wrote:
This is what I see. No spaceship there, only shadows.


Finally! Someone with common sense. Thank you!

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Apr 23, 2021 07:43:50   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
Michael1079 wrote:
Finally! Someone with common sense. Thank you!


So I ask again, what caused the albedo? It is behind each of the two craft. Most of the albedo seen on the Moon is due to recent strikes of asteroids. There is quite a bit of video on the internet to substantiate the existence of triangular spacecraft Go to Youtube and enter "tr3b" in the search box. The one of the UFO over Belgium is very compelling, as is the one over Paris.

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Apr 23, 2021 14:23:51   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Streets wrote:
So I ask again, what caused the albedo? It is behind each of the two craft. Most of the albedo seen on the Moon is due to recent strikes of asteroids. There is quite a bit of video on the internet to substantiate the existence of triangular spacecraft Go to Youtube and enter "tr3b" in the search box. The one of the UFO over Belgium is very compelling, as is the one over Paris.


Where did you learn your definition of "albedo"? It isn't a thing, it is a measurement of the % of light reflected.

Here is the short definition from Wikipedia (the first entry I found that I could copy and paste):

Albedo is the measure of the diffuse reflection of solar radiation out of the total solar radiation and measured on a scale from 0, corresponding to a black body that absorbs all incident radiation, to 1, corresponding to a body that reflects all incident radiation. Wikipedia

So you don't see "albedo" the moon has "albedo" and it varies depending on the color, texture and surface angle in relation to the incoming sunlight from place to place.
So you have an elevated feature on the moon and the side away from the Sun has a deep black, sharp edged shadow with essentially '0' albedo and the side of the feature facing the sun you get various degrees of high albedo up to nearly a 1.

Those are shadows of pointed elevated features. If you get a good sharp image of a full moon through a telescope (stitched multiple images to make a complete photo of the moon on a decent scale and search you will find many shadows like this of various shapes and sizes.

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Apr 23, 2021 16:27:55   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
robertjerl wrote:
Where did you learn your definition of "albedo"? It isn't a thing, it is a measurement of the % of light reflected.

Here is the short definition from Wikipedia (the first entry I found that I could copy and paste):

Albedo is the measure of the diffuse reflection of solar radiation out of the total solar radiation and measured on a scale from 0, corresponding to a black body that absorbs all incident radiation, to 1, corresponding to a body that reflects all incident radiation. Wikipedia

So you don't see "albedo" the moon has "albedo" and it varies depending on the color, texture and surface angle in relation to the incoming sunlight from place to place.
So you have an elevated feature on the moon and the side away from the Sun has a deep black, sharp edged shadow with essentially '0' albedo and the side of the feature facing the sun you get various degrees of high albedo up to nearly a 1.

Those are shadows of pointed elevated features. If you get a good sharp image of a full moon through a telescope (stitched multiple images to make a complete photo of the moon on a decent scale and search you will find many shadows like this of various shapes and sizes.
Where did you learn your definition of "albed... (show quote)


So! what caused this albedo to go from 0 to 1? When the lunar soil is agitated the albedo goes up and when it is seriously agitated it goes to 1. The soil behind the two spacecraft is level 1. You are afraid to give the right answer, are you not?

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Apr 23, 2021 17:46:34   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Streets wrote:
So! what caused this albedo to go from 0 to 1? When the lunar soil is agitated the albedo goes up and when it is seriously agitated it goes to 1. The soil behind the two spacecraft is level 1. You are afraid to give the right answer, are you not?


0 = shadow on side away from sun (no atmosphere to scatter light into a shadow)

1 = sunny side slope with various angles and surfaces reflecting light up to a 1 but at any rate very bright compared to the shadow side

They are SHADOWS on the side away from the sun and light reflecting off the opposite side of the elevation/small peak that is casting the shadow.

And the sunlight is coming in at a fairly low angle. The same spot with the sunlight coming down almost vertically would be pretty featureless as seen from the Earth while if the sunlight was at a bit lower angle the shadow could be longer and the reflecting side would appear differently also.

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Apr 23, 2021 18:03:26   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
robertjerl wrote:
0 = shadow on side away from sun (no atmosphere to scatter light into a shadow)

1 = sunny side slope with various angles and surfaces reflecting light up to a 1 but at any rate very bright compared to the shadow side

They are SHADOWS on the side away from the sun and light reflecting off the opposite side of the elevation/small peak that is casting the shadow.

And the sunlight is coming in at a fairly low angle. The same spot with the sunlight coming down almost vertically would be pretty featureless as seen from the Earth while if the sunlight was at a bit lower angle the shadow could be longer and the reflecting side would appear differently also.
0 = shadow on side away from sun (no atmosphere to... (show quote)

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