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Apr 18, 2021 06:41:42   #
Stephan G
 
RWR wrote:
May I ask why it matters to you what others do with their pictures? I ask because, while I am very passionate about my own photography, I have zero interest in how anyone else enjoys their work. And only a useless busybody would care what I do with mine. I see nothing wrong with mutual respect.


Thus the greatest aspect of Art is ignored. The sharing and communication amongst the generations and cultures. Why even have museums.

I am not an "Useless Busybody". However I am always interested in seeing something of what my fellow human beings see and think, no matter how trivial it may seem. It is also a good way to see passing History.

Do you have some clause in your will that requires all of your work to be destroyed? To prevent others from seeing your vision?

Note: this is not solely limited to digital photography.

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Apr 18, 2021 06:48:37   #
ELNikkor
 
Even after digitizing my prints, slides, and negatives, I'm still reluctant to throw them away; it seems disrespectful somehow...

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Apr 18, 2021 07:01:42   #
SteveG Loc: Norh Carolina
 
You know this response is why I go back and forth everyday on whether or not I even want to read what is being posted. You posted something that effects me the same way. How many have gone from the entire film process to the digital process, which gives you basically instant results with the most popular camera today, the iPhone. I'd say it's getting to be less and less that know what actually went into the film process. How much extra went into the actual taking of the photo, because you only had a few shots to choose to today when you can snap at outrageous speeds and see instant results on your screen with practically no thought going into composition, exposure etc. And finally, why I go back and forth on whether i want to read some angry responses to a subject that doesn't happen to interest someone. Is this a photography discussion site, or isn't it? I can tell you when I first joined, I didn't notice a lot of this "who cares" or "go Google it!" If you don't like the subject of the OP, don't read it. Better yet, don't respond if you don't like it. There may be some of us out here that like what point is being made and want to talk further about it. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Apr 18, 2021 07:17:07   #
Canisdirus
 
It's all very temporary anyway.

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Apr 18, 2021 07:32:30   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
Rongnongno wrote:
To me the real issue is not the volume created or even the dubious quality.

The main issue is that while images can go across the world in seconds there is very little trace of them in the 'real world'.

Few folks print. Ephemeral viewing on a screen is not the same, worse, it invites laziness both in picture taking and post-processing as all 'defects' are suppressed due to small size, compression and to be honest, poor display (monitor) quality.

We are really losing something here.
To me the real issue is not the volume created or ... (show quote)


Might I suggest, Jacque, that “the real issue” is not to be decided for the world of photography by one self-appointed, opinionated, individual, photographer; rather, it is a highly personal issue to be decided upon, unquestioningly, by each individual photographer by his or her own, highly personal lights and motivations!
Dave

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Apr 18, 2021 07:54:11   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Uuglypher wrote:
Might I suggest, Jacque, that “the real issue” is not to be decided for the world of photography by one self-appointed, opinionated, individual, photographer; rather, it is a highly personal issue to be decided upon, unquestioningly, by each individual photographer by his or her own, highly personal lights and motivations!
Dave

The idea here is not to tell folks what to do but the loss of staying power.

Sure image can stay on the net or computer as long as format is maintained but...
Who looks at them? A simple observation in the street and you see folks 'swiping' all the time, next, next, next and that is for something they are interested in.
What is the interest? A simple look at the gallery here will tell you that there is too much and too disorganized to hold anyone's attention for more than a few moments to comment.
What is the quality? Thorny question here are when we look at something on a display we really have no clue. It 'looks good' is all we can say.
The real question is: Who will remember precisely where something has been seen? Folks here (including me) have issue finding back posts that interest them!!! So a digital image?

I recall going to an art museum in Detroit (December 1984). I saw a weird painting. I still did not understand and would call it a 'scam'. It was a huge white canvas, a small red dot on the lower right. I can do the same, after all the canvas is just white and the dot? Heck! Ketchup can do the same thing on a pristine white table cloth. The thing is: I still do not understand it, I still do not like it, but I remember it.

Staying power

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Apr 18, 2021 08:05:14   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The main issue is that while images can go across the world in seconds there is very little trace of them in the 'real world'.

Few folks print.

My bank account would tend to disagree with you.

I print my show pictures because they have to be printed. When I bring them home from the show, they go on my walls.

My customers buy & print my pictures because my pictures are unique, and I market them. If one never markets one's work, no one will buy it because they don't know it's there.

As my wise old grandmother told me in 1966 when she was helping her 11-year-old grandson (me!) set up his first business: "The best sales people can sell a refrigerator to an Eskimo."

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Apr 18, 2021 08:14:04   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
russelray wrote:
My bank account would tend to disagree with you.

I print my show pictures because they have to be printed. When I bring them home from the show, they go on my walls.

My customers buy & print my pictures because my pictures are unique, and I market them. If one never markets one's work, no one will buy it because they don't know it's there.

As my wise old grandmother told me in 1966 when she was helping her 11-year-old grandson (me!) set up his first business: "The best sales people can sell a refrigerator to an Eskimo."
My bank account would tend to disagree with you. b... (show quote)

As noted: Few folks print.

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Apr 18, 2021 08:23:50   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
As noted: Few folks print.

As I said: My bank account disagrees with you. Folks printing provide me with over $10,000 a month.

Every time I walk into someone's office, I see printed pictures on the walls and printed pictures on desks throughout the office complex. The owners of the buildings even have printed pictures in the lobbies. Me thinks someone just isn't paying attention.

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Apr 18, 2021 08:26:33   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
russelray wrote:
As I said: My bank account disagrees with you. Folks printing provide me with over $10,000 a month.

You are not reading. That you sell is great, that you put salesmanship over everything is not so much but heck you make a living.

Few folks print stand.

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Apr 18, 2021 08:28:20   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
You are not reading. That you sell is great, that you put salesmanship over everything is not so much but heck you make a living.

Few folks print stand.

I don't print my pictures unless I'm entering them in a show.

My customers print my pictures, usually for their offices or as gifts to family and friends for special occasions. I simply tell them where to go to get my pictures and have them printed.

Every time I walk into someone's office, I see printed pictures on the walls and printed pictures on desks throughout the office complex. The owners of the buildings even have printed pictures in the lobbies. Me thinks someone just isn't paying attention.

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Apr 18, 2021 08:33:05   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Rongnongno wrote:
To me the real issue is not the volume created or even the dubious quality.

The main issue is that while images can go across the world in seconds there is very little trace of them in the 'real world'.

Few folks print. Ephemeral viewing on a screen is not the same, worse, it invites laziness both in picture taking and post-processing as all 'defects' are suppressed due to small size, compression and to be honest, poor display (monitor) quality.

We are really losing something here.
To me the real issue is not the volume created or ... (show quote)


Not really anything being lost at all.
Prior to digital there were billions of instamatic photos taken and printed at 3"x5" and shared.
None if any would meet your standard.
Most were of and still are of incredible vale as they preserved a birthday, graduation, vacation or other memorial event for the person/family.
Technically poor but totally loved.
Those wanting technical perfection are still doing it regardless of medium.
Those preserving memories are still preserving the moment.
The memories will be long loved for decades on while those technical shots ad infinitum of the same bird or whatever will be long forgotten.
Let us enjoy our chosen path and you enjoy yours.

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Apr 18, 2021 08:49:46   #
leftyD500 Loc: Ocala, Florida
 
cdayton wrote:
My guess (speculation) is that on an average current sunny day on the Colorado Plateau, more photographs are taken than during the entire 20th century. How many are worth printing?


Many of us are just plain ole photography nuts, just want to get out and take photos and enjoy nature. We are not so interested in printing them.

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Apr 18, 2021 09:03:54   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Rongnongno wrote:
To me the real issue is not the volume created or even the dubious quality.

The main issue is that while images can go across the world in seconds there is very little trace of them in the 'real world'.

Few folks print. Ephemeral viewing on a screen is not the same, worse, it invites laziness both in picture taking and post-processing as all 'defects' are suppressed due to small size, compression and to be honest, poor display (monitor) quality.

We are really losing something here.
To me the real issue is not the volume created or ... (show quote)


Who is losing something?

I kind of like the informal nature and allowing the entire quality spectrum. You can always create a new group for only those of like mined perfection and review each photo before it gets posted. Maybe called hog snobs and allow people to openly critique any photo and allowing editing. Some real chutzpah. :)

Provocative as always.

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Apr 18, 2021 09:13:06   #
Stephan G
 
pithydoug wrote:
Who is losing something?

I kind of like the informal nature and allowing the entire quality spectrum. You can always create a new group for only those of like mined perfection and review each photo before it gets posted. Maybe called hog snobs and allow people to openly critique any photo and allowing editing. Some real chutzpah. :)

Provocative as always.


Or "Shoot"-zpa?

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