Did you consider "painting with light" - small aperture, long exposure, shining a light on the subject?[/quote]
My hope is to have the subjects back lite by the lights on the Memorial. It was suggest earlier that I may want them to turn sightly so they have some light on their face(s). I kind of like that idea too. I'll explore different avenues including your idea. Thanks much!!!
Dogman
Definitely use manual exposure and manual focusing. As you have a tripod you can operate at low ISO of about 200, f11 for about 20 seconds or so. You will need to refer to your histogram to fine tune exposure. Also take in RAW as this will allow you to easily correct for any colour cast. Also best to photograph in just after sunset when the artificial lights are on but you still have some natural sky light left. This will allow detail to show up in the trees behing the building.
Normanicus
If you google "night photography," you'll get enough info to keep you busy reading for days. Shooting at night is definitely different, but it opens up possibilities.
I would bracket a couple sets of 3,4-shots using aperture priority mode. Then check them in-camera to see which ones worked for me (what my vision was when I shot the picture). Then I would upload them to my computer and edit them. That's how I would approach it.
Truth be told I'm not an expert on anything but if I was taking the pictures I would take some close ups of the family near the plate of the person who died and a separate picture of the veteran's plate. They may want to frame a grouping of pictures and this way you would have all important facts of the memorial in focus. I would take a picture of the flag and surrounding area too. I tend to take a lot of pictures...sometimes I'm surprised at what pictures capture the moment best.
Dogman wrote:
Not looking to critique this image. I know it needs a lot of help. My objective is to get some advise on a future night shot. Here are my thoughts. Have an adult and preteen child standing between the bench and Memorial looking at the Memorial you cant see the bench but it is part of the low granite structure in front of the Memorial. Giving some thought to lighting the evergreen trees behind the Memorial to accentuate the Memorials shape. The trees are about 12 to 15 feet behind the Memorial and about 18 to 20 feet high. I plan on lighting the trees with some construction floodlights. They of course would not be in the picture.
I know the people will be backlit and that is the effect Im after. Camera is a Canon T1i, tripod and wire remote shutter release. I do have access to my sons D60 or 60D. Not sure which one it is, but it is many steps above my T1i. My lens is a Sigma 28-200 mm I think. Would a 50mm 1.8 prime work better?
My question is what settings should I use Manual, aperture or shutter priority? If manual, any hints on a starting point for camera settings? With a good starting point I can experiment with the setting before I have go to the next step with people. I do plan on being closer to the Memorial so the flagpole is not in play and centered on the Memorial.
Dogman
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I think you have a good start right here. With a little work in post those trees in the background come out looking very nice. If you would like to see a quick effort at adjusting this photo, I can post for you.
Dogman wrote:
Did you consider "painting with light" - small aperture, long exposure, shining a light on the subject?
My hope is to have the subjects back lite by the lights on the Memorial. It was suggest earlier that I may want them to turn sightly so they have some light on their face(s). I kind of like that idea too. I'll explore different avenues including your idea. Thanks much!!!
Dogman[/quote]
To bring some light back into the subjects faces, maybe a reflector between them and the memorial, but out of sight at the bottom.
Wahawk wrote:
I think you have a good start right here. With a little work in post those trees in the background come out looking very nice. If you would like to see a quick effort at adjusting this photo, I can post for you.
By all means go for it Wahawk.
Dogman
Dogman wrote:
Wahawk wrote:
I think you have a good start right here. With a little work in post those trees in the background come out looking very nice. If you would like to see a quick effort at adjusting this photo, I can post for you.
By all means go for it Wahawk.
Dogman
This is just a quick adjustment, but shows what can be done with the image that you already have. There are others on here that can do much better in 'post' than I can.
Wahawk wrote:
Dogman wrote:
Wahawk wrote:
I think you have a good start right here. With a little work in post those trees in the background come out looking very nice. If you would like to see a quick effort at adjusting this photo, I can post for you.
By all means go for it Wahawk.
Dogman
This is just a quick adjustment, but shows what can be done with the image that you already have. There are others on here that can do much better in 'post' than I can.
Wow! Thank you! PS or Elements?
Dogman
Dogman wrote:
Wahawk wrote:
Dogman wrote:
Wahawk wrote:
I think you have a good start right here. With a little work in post those trees in the background come out looking very nice. If you would like to see a quick effort at adjusting this photo, I can post for you.
By all means go for it Wahawk.
Dogman
This is just a quick adjustment, but shows what can be done with the image that you already have. There are others on here that can do much better in 'post' than I can.
Wow! Thank you! PS or Elements?
Dogman
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PaintShop Pro x4
This was done with layers, which should be possible in either PS or Elements from what I understand.
I made a duplicate layer, then on the top layer adjusted the exposure for the 'shadow' areas to bring out the background trees, then erased the area of the memorial, pole on the left and the foreground grass to expose the original exposure. (this is a little over-simplified, but the basics of what was done.) Took 5-10 minutes tops to do this.
PaintShop Pro x4
This was done with layers, which should be possible in either PS or Elements from what I understand.
I made a duplicate layer, then on the top layer adjusted the exposure for the 'shadow' areas to bring out the background trees, then erased the area of the memorial, pole on the left and the foreground grass to expose the original exposure. (this is a little over-simplified, but the basics of what was done.) Took 5-10 minutes tops to do this.[/quote]
Thanks for the info.
Dogman
You will find the best time to shoot that type of shot is just after sunset and just before darkness. Your window is usually about 20 minutes. Those make the most beautiful night shots. Would suggest an ISO of 200-400 (try both) and use an aperture of about 11-16 to get good DOF. You will probably need 30-45 second exposure at that time. The darker it gets the longer the exposure time. Be sure to bracket your shots up to +-2 stops to give yourself some choices. The pic will be complicated by having people in the photo. The must be perfectly still or you will get ghosting. Ask them to hold their breath as most can hold for nearly a minute so should be no problem, I prefer a large breath and expel it, seems to be easier. All you should need to do is vary your exposure time and not aperture. Definitely experiment with a mag flashlight, you can have some serious fun with them. Good luck
OMG Please don't try this dogman. Please......
ronz wrote:
You will find the best time to shoot that type of shot is just after sunset and just before darkness. Your window is usually about 20 minutes. Those make the most beautiful night shots. Would suggest an ISO of 200-400 (try both) and use an aperture of about 11-16 to get good DOF. You will probably need 30-45 second exposure at that time. The darker it gets the longer the exposure time. Be sure to bracket your shots up to +-2 stops to give yourself some choices. The pic will be complicated by having people in the photo. The must be perfectly still or you will get ghosting. Ask them to hold their breath as most can hold for nearly a minute so should be no problem, I prefer a large breath and expel it, seems to be easier. All you should need to do is vary your exposure time and not aperture. Definitely experiment with a mag flashlight, you can have some serious fun with them. Good luck
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Not much wrong with the original. The way it is, the trees do a good job of framing the memorial. I would agree about losing the flagpole and centering the memorial. Silhouetted observers would add atmosphere and intimacy, and a little illumination on them from the front would probably work, but too much would probably result in the observers becoming too attention-grabbing.
All-in-all a very atmospheric and poignant scene.
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