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Apr 3, 2021 23:51:30   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Here's my own two shekels on this subject:

I had been using the base iPhone 7 with the 32 GB capacity. I was constantly amazed at the quality of the videos that were made with it, especially those made at night. I have had my D7100 for several years (and more recently, the D7200) and still haven't quite figured out how to get decent video from the DSLR, such as getting the focus and exposure the right way. Much easier just to point the iPhone and just "go".

I recently upgraded to the 12 Pro (not the Max, felt it was just a tad too large and the 12 Pro fit into my pocket better. I originally got the base 12, but after having it for a week, decided I wanted the third camera in the 12 Pro. At first I didn't think I would need it, but I find that I've used it quite a bit and it's much better than using your fingers to "zoom" in as before.

As for the 12 Pro vs. the 12 Pro Max, the third ("telephoto") lens is slightly faster on the 12 than on the 12 Pro: f2.0 vs. f2.2. Not a significant difference, but it's a difference.

I didn't think I needed the "LIDAR" feature for "improved night photography", but in my activities as a fire photographer, I have been quite impressed the the sharpness and overall image quality from photos and videos taken with the 12 Pro. Sometimes I will just use the iPhone because I just don't feel like getting out the whole DSLR and everything.

One other reason to use the iPhone and not the DSLR: although the D7100 and D7200 (and other higher-end Nikon DSLRs) are weather-sealed, my lenses are NOT. The iPhone is waterproof to 30 feet, so if I'm out in the rain or get hit with spray from a water dropping helicopter, I won't end up having to get my lens professionally cleaned or repaired, or even drop it into a bag of rice for a few days.

I would still be using my trusty iPhone 7, but it would no longer hold a battery charge for much longer than a couple of hours, instead of literally all day as a new one would. That, and I needed more storage capacity. I could've replaced the battery with a new batter for about $50, but the rest of the phone would still be "old technology". So, the decision was made to just get a new one.

The 12 series is AMAZING.

Edit: I'm attaching an example of what the iPhone 12 Pro can do:


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Apr 3, 2021 23:56:13   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
I still se no true telephoto shots, wide angle only to 50mm normal (2X telephoto for the phone).


No, it's not REALLY a true "telephoto". It's not the 35mm equivalent of even an 85mm lens you would use on your SLR/DSLR. But… when compared with the other two lenses on the iPhone 12 Pro/Pro Max, you do have -- more or less -- your basic "wide", "normal" and "telephoto" lens selection (although Apple calls the first two "wide" and "ultra-wide", I have no idea why. Having the third lens also avoids having to rely on the "digital" zoom as this is an "optical" zoom. Much better, as you all know.

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Apr 4, 2021 05:52:17   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Isn't it amazing how some folks can see the short-comings of a image especially when they know beforehand what the device was that made the image. As I have noted in other responses, I think images should be judged between their four corners and not based on who their "parents" were. That is, let's just lie out the images on a table without labeling what imaging device creating them. Then if you wanted to see a very interesting response, lets label the phone images as being taken with the camera and those taken with the camera as being made with the phone. I suspect the phone photos would be seen as improving immensely. When I was a young fellow in college, I was a professor's house during some sort of social event with other students and instructors. I happened into the kitchen where I found the professor decanting a cheap whiskey into an empty bottle of a much more expensive brand of spirits. "Rodeo", the prof says to me, "You'd be surprised at how much better people think this rotgut is when they see it being poured from this bottle of the expensive stuff".
To be sure, there are questions of how any photo making device works as a tool in any specific situation that needs to be answered by each of us facing the situation, such as what Architecture writes about being in a situation where only a telephoto lens on a capable camera will do the job. I'm sure there are other such examples. Yes there are many instances where thus far, the right camera accompanied by the appropriate lense is the "right tool" for the job. However, it seems to me, that many of the comments we are seeing about the inadequacy of the phone are actually the responses of those who see an old familar way of life slipping away that they are desperate to keep.
Isn't it amazing how some folks can see the short-... (show quote)


Couldn't said it better myself--words of wisdom.

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Apr 4, 2021 08:29:56   #
Raptor
 
For years I used my loved iPhone 5s. When it started acting squirrley, I decided to get the 12pro, Christmas present to self. I LOVE this phone. It shoots in raw (when you want it to). I have not looked at greatly enlarged raw pics yet but every image I have captured is amazing. The one camera feature I am struggling with is a feature in the portrait mode where you can choose to blacken the background. I understand it is a problem with the software.

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Apr 4, 2021 08:38:54   #
Raptor
 
For years I used my beloved iPhone 5s. When it started to act erraticly, I gave myself a Christmas present, the iPhone 12 Pro. I love my Sony DSLR, but it is not practical to carry it everywhere. The camera feature is excellent but is tricky for close up shots. The portrait feature is especially fun. Normally I would not spend this kind of $$ for any device (except a new camera) but I (hopefully) will have this phone for many years. I took this yesterday using the portrait feature. No editing necessary.


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Apr 4, 2021 08:46:53   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
Raptor wrote:
For years I used my beloved iPhone 5s. When it started to act erraticly, I gave myself a Christmas present, the iPhone 12 Pro. I love my Sony DSLR, but it is not practical to carry it everywhere. The camera feature is excellent but is tricky for close up shots. The portrait feature is especially fun. Normally I would not spend this kind of $$ for any device (except a new camera) but I (hopefully) will have this phone for many years. I took this yesterday using the portrait feature. No editing necessary.
For years I used my beloved iPhone 5s. When it sta... (show quote)


This is a prime example why the younger people no longer have an interest in a camera. How can you compete with a push of a button.

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Apr 4, 2021 09:23:48   #
Chadp Loc: Virginia Beach
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Here's my own two shekels on this subject:

I had been using the base iPhone 7 with the 32 GB capacity. I was constantly amazed at the quality of the videos that were made with it, especially those made at night. I have had my D7100 for several years (and more recently, the D7200) and still haven't quite figured out how to get decent video from the DSLR, such as getting the focus and exposure the right way. Much easier just to point the iPhone and just "go".

I recently upgraded to the 12 Pro (not the Max, felt it was just a tad too large and the 12 Pro fit into my pocket better. I originally got the base 12, but after having it for a week, decided I wanted the third camera in the 12 Pro. At first I didn't think I would need it, but I find that I've used it quite a bit and it's much better than using your fingers to "zoom" in as before.

As for the 12 Pro vs. the 12 Pro Max, the third ("telephoto") lens is slightly faster on the 12 than on the 12 Pro: f2.0 vs. f2.2. Not a significant difference, but it's a difference.

I didn't think I needed the "LIDAR" feature for "improved night photography", but in my activities as a fire photographer, I have been quite impressed the the sharpness and overall image quality from photos and videos taken with the 12 Pro. Sometimes I will just use the iPhone because I just don't feel like getting out the whole DSLR and everything.

One other reason to use the iPhone and not the DSLR: although the D7100 and D7200 (and other higher-end Nikon DSLRs) are weather-sealed, my lenses are NOT. The iPhone is waterproof to 30 feet, so if I'm out in the rain or get hit with spray from a water dropping helicopter, I won't end up having to get my lens professionally cleaned or repaired, or even drop it into a bag of rice for a few days.

I would still be using my trusty iPhone 7, but it would no longer hold a battery charge for much longer than a couple of hours, instead of literally all day as a new one would. That, and I needed more storage capacity. I could've replaced the battery with a new batter for about $50, but the rest of the phone would still be "old technology". So, the decision was made to just get a new one.

The 12 series is AMAZING.

Edit: I'm attaching an example of what the iPhone 12 Pro can do:
Here's my own two shekels on this subject: br br ... (show quote)


The night mode of the IPhone pro is quite amazing. I have actually used it for night vision a few times when I was unsure of what I was seeing. But being able to handhold for 3 seconds and get a clear image is an impressive development in computational photography.

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Apr 4, 2021 13:13:08   #
Letterjranch Loc: West Texas
 
Badlands of New Mexico. Right out of the iPhone 12 no edits



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Apr 4, 2021 13:14:48   #
Letterjranch Loc: West Texas
 
Another same set up different day. New Mexico



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Apr 4, 2021 15:13:43   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
Letterjranch wrote:
Another same set up different day. New Mexico


Beautiful tonality in those clouds!

Dave

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Apr 4, 2021 15:22:58   #
Latsok Loc: Recently moved to Washington State.
 
Awesome discussions and very interesting personal experiences and opinions. I'm not going to forsake my DSLR and let it gather dust on the shelf, but I think I will probably (if my wife lets me _hahahaha) get an iPhone 12 pro. My old iPhone 5 is acting up and the battery is not what it used to be - so it will need to be replaced one of these days soon. We are waiting for the birth of a new grand daughter and I might use that as an occasion for the new acquisition and take pics of the baby without the big camera. Thank you all for your inputs UHH is such a cool site!

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Apr 4, 2021 21:49:19   #
JimGrog Loc: Wash DC Area
 
My wife has a 12 and I think the pictures are terrific. It has a few limitations at ultimate tele or macro but I don't think you can beat it unless you want to be a pro with pro equipment.

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Apr 5, 2021 05:40:23   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
JimGrog wrote:
My wife has a 12 and I think the pictures are terrific. It has a few limitations at ultimate tele or macro but I don't think you can beat it unless you want to be a pro with pro equipment.

Taken with a Iphone 12 pro max. Difficult depth of field but it still somehow negotiated it.


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Apr 5, 2021 08:41:37   #
Marlz
 
There may come the day when every photographer will carry the latest in iPhone picture-taking technology.

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Apr 5, 2021 20:15:08   #
Bluefish Loc: Berks County, PA
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Isn't it amazing how some folks can see the short-comings of a image especially when they know beforehand what the device was that made the image. As I have noted in other responses, I think images should be judged between their four corners and not based on who their "parents" were. That is, let's just lie out the images on a table without labeling what imaging device creating them. Then if you wanted to see a very interesting response, lets label the phone images as being taken with the camera and those taken with the camera as being made with the phone. I suspect the phone photos would be seen as improving immensely. When I was a young fellow in college, I was a professor's house during some sort of social event with other students and instructors. I happened into the kitchen where I found the professor decanting a cheap whiskey into an empty bottle of a much more expensive brand of spirits. "Rodeo", the prof says to me, "You'd be surprised at how much better people think this rotgut is when they see it being poured from this bottle of the expensive stuff".
To be sure, there are questions of how any photo making device works as a tool in any specific situation that needs to be answered by each of us facing the situation, such as what Architecture writes about being in a situation where only a telephoto lens on a capable camera will do the job. I'm sure there are other such examples. Yes there are many instances where thus far, the right camera accompanied by the appropriate lense is the "right tool" for the job. However, it seems to me, that many of the comments we are seeing about the inadequacy of the phone are actually the responses of those who see an old familar way of life slipping away that they are desperate to keep.
Isn't it amazing how some folks can see the short-... (show quote)

Well said RodeoMan, I wanted to reply to some of the folks, started, then thankfully erased my replies. I am not nearly as tactful as you and I thank you for unknowingly reading my mind. I second your response and thank you.

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