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Apr 3, 2021 15:28:55   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
I am talking about the water shot and pier-acrylic looks great

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Apr 3, 2021 16:14:28   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Chadp wrote:
I upgraded from the iPhone 7 to the iPhone 11 Pro over a year ago. The only reason I upgraded was the improvement in the camera. And it was well worth it. The iPhone is probably used for 70% of my photos and 90% of my videos. I think of all the candid shots of my kids and family I would have missed if I would have had to grab my Sony and turn it on. I even used the IPhone for a couple of pics on a real estate shoot I did when I wasn’t happy with field of view I was getting with my Sony. I have not studied the differences between the 11 pro and 12 pro but the 11 pro will be a huge upgrade over your 5. And the 11 pro will shoot RAW if desired with a 3rd party app.
I upgraded from the iPhone 7 to the iPhone 11 Pro ... (show quote)


Don't forget the Video, you can shoot a feature movie with it.

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Apr 3, 2021 16:20:31   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
This is a personal opinion, but my main reason for having a cell phone is for communication. The fact that it has a camera in it is an added nicety when I do not have one of my cameras with me. I cannot, nor will not, try to justify spending as much, or more, for a phone as I have for a DSLR. Having started my photography avocation with a movie camera and then to a film SLR, I've grown accustomed to using a camera for photos. Just my preference.


Today's cell phones are not just primarily for making calls and texting like they were 15 years ago, they are essentially highly portable mini-computers, not all that much different than a laptop computer.

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Apr 3, 2021 16:36:59   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
berchman wrote:
The iPhone 12 Pro Max has a 12mp sensor. Predicting how large a print a jpeg posted on the internet could make tells me nothing.


12 megapixels on a phone is not the same as 12 megapixel on a APS-C sensor BIG difference ...don't fool yourself . If It doesn't matter to you that's great for you . I think I said the same thing ..I would have to see a raw or tiff file from the phone in question ...I don't see that happening anytime soon as none of my clients use cell phones for photography .

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Apr 3, 2021 16:40:32   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
rmalarz wrote:
The blown out areas are a bit distracting.
--Bob


And the halos everywhere are also if you can get past the artifacts ...

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Apr 3, 2021 17:03:54   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
nikonbrain wrote:
And the halos everywhere are also if you can get past the artifacts ...


What photo are you talking about --go to the beginning of the thread and look at the pier picture.

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Apr 3, 2021 17:05:14   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
nikonbrain wrote:
12 megapixels on a phone is not the same as 12 megapixel on a APS-C sensor BIG difference ...don't fool yourself . If It doesn't matter to you that's great for you . I think I said the same thing ..I would have to see a raw or tiff file from the phone in question ...I don't see that happening anytime soon as none of my clients use cell phones for photography .


Look at the photo--I guarantee there you would be hard pressed to distinguish pics from the phone and from a camera.

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Apr 3, 2021 17:14:23   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
Look at the photo--I guarantee there you would be hard pressed to distinguish pics from the phone and from a camera.


I don't think I would have much problem telling which one is camera and which one is phone.

will

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Apr 3, 2021 17:24:39   #
pendennis
 
nikonbrain wrote:
12 megapixels on a phone is not the same as 12 megapixel on a APS-C sensor BIG difference ...don't fool yourself . If It doesn't matter to you that's great for you . I think I said the same thing ..I would have to see a raw or tiff file from the phone in question ...I don't see that happening anytime soon as none of my clients use cell phones for photography .


Agreed, and no "if" or "but".

The micro sensor on cell phones has steep reliance on algorithms in determining the outcome of the photo. IOW, what ever the programmer thought is what your photo will look like. Is that a problem? Most of the time probably not. But why take the risk? I want photos that reflect my thoughts, not from some guy/gal in a cubicle in Cupertino. And I'm not denying that some of the same bias goes into 16x24 or 24x36 size sensors, just less of it.

This is similar to the quests by camera/film manufacturers trying to micro-size film and cameras. Yes, you could get a "decent" 4x6, 3x5 photo, but what if you wanted 16x20, even larger?

And if you want to go full manual, nothing substitutes for setting your own iron triangle. And in the studio, it's the "magic" of lighting that makes the image.

Just my thoughts. YMMV as always.

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Apr 3, 2021 17:45:54   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
Ok, this iPhone is sounding very good.
So I can make money in weddings, architectural, and sports? And also wildlife.

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Apr 3, 2021 17:57:58   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
kenArchi wrote:
Ok, this iPhone is sounding very good.
So I can make money in weddings, architectural, and sports? And also wildlife.


Get rid of you Sony alpha 1. The iphone will make take care of all your photo needs

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Apr 3, 2021 18:11:08   #
rdarlington43 Loc: Charlotte, NC
 
Uuglypher wrote:
Hi, Latsok,
First, be aware that there is now an active Smartphone Photography Section where your question is more likely to get more informed responses.
My experience is having used the iPhone11ProMax and now the iPhone12ProMax is that the improvement is significant. Sensor (and pixel) size of the back cameras are 47% larger, so right off the bat the really impressive images became noticeably more so! And the combined effects of improved “computational photography” and ProRaw are impressive! Bottom line? I’m delighted that I “moved up”. I just got back an 18”x36” enlargement of a TIFF file from a raw exposure and discernible detail rendition and resolution is amazing!
Be sure to check out the new Smartphone Photography Section. You will find lots of tips and hints that will help to improve your enjoyment of cellphone photography!
Best regards,
Dave
Hi, Latsok, br First, be aware that there is now a... (show quote)


About two weeks ago I upgraded to the 12 Pro Max. Love everything about it and have never looked back I agree with everything you said. Don’t drop the DSLR camera. If you only upgrade your phone every 5 generations or so spend the extra money now for the new chip, much improved camera & raw capability.

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Apr 3, 2021 18:11:30   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Isn't it amazing how some folks can see the short-comings of a image especially when they know beforehand what the device was that made the image. As I have noted in other responses, I think images should be judged between their four corners and not based on who their "parents" were. That is, let's just lie out the images on a table without labeling what imaging device creating them. Then if you wanted to see a very interesting response, lets label the phone images as being taken with the camera and those taken with the camera as being made with the phone. I suspect the phone photos would be seen as improving immensely. When I was a young fellow in college, I was a professor's house during some sort of social event with other students and instructors. I happened into the kitchen where I found the professor decanting a cheap whiskey into an empty bottle of a much more expensive brand of spirits. "Rodeo", the prof says to me, "You'd be surprised at how much better people think this rotgut is when they see it being poured from this bottle of the expensive stuff".
To be sure, there are questions of how any photo making device works as a tool in any specific situation that needs to be answered by each of us facing the situation, such as what Architecture writes about being in a situation where only a telephoto lens on a capable camera will do the job. I'm sure there are other such examples. Yes there are many instances where thus far, the right camera accompanied by the appropriate lense is the "right tool" for the job. However, it seems to me, that many of the comments we are seeing about the inadequacy of the phone are actually the responses of those who see an old familar way of life slipping away that they are desperate to keep.

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Apr 3, 2021 19:51:29   #
rkaminer Loc: New York, NY
 
Unretouched image from Iphone 12 Pro Max.


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Apr 3, 2021 21:16:57   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Macro of Black Berry flower.. only cropped. 12 pro max


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