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Mar 30, 2021 09:28:54   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
84, shaky right hand and I've had one for three years. Love it!! Not because I was dissatisfied, but I was growing weary of 40lbs of stuff to lug around, so I sold all my Canon gear.
Mark

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Mar 30, 2021 09:38:19   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
Bill29707 wrote:
I just got mine and love the RX10M4. I am 77 and doing all I can do with a bad knee.
Bill


Dear Bill...I am old enough to be your big brother and I have two bad knees! (Enough of my complaining.) I've seen your images and you are doing great. Keep it up little brother and thanks for your comments.

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Mar 30, 2021 09:44:56   #
Peter Duce
 
76 and still snapping. It's been quite while since my film days!!!! I've owned many makes and models of cameras in that time.
The Sony RX10iv is the most useful camera I've ever owned, I rarely go out without it.
No complaints from me about image quality either, for what this camera is and its what its capabilities are, they are superb.

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Mar 30, 2021 09:45:15   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
markngolf wrote:
84, shaky right hand and I've had one for three years. Love it!! Not because I was dissatisfied, but I was growing weary of 40lbs of stuff to lug around, so I sold all my Canon gear.
Mark


Dear Mark... Like you, I was lugging my Canon EOS 6D Mark ll with a super heavy 70-200 Canon Zoom lens around the soccer field on a monopod, trying not to get a hernia last year before the Pandemic lockdown. Then I saw this small, light Sony RX10M4 with a 600mm telephoto lens on it and went bananas. Now I waddle around the pond at Botanica Gardens shooting close ups of ducks eyeballs clear across the pond, while the old ladies ask me, "What in the heck are you taking a picture of? I don't see anything!" Ain't it great to have such a small camera do so much for old geezers like me!

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Mar 30, 2021 09:47:53   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
Peter Duce wrote:
76 and still snapping. It's been quite while since my film days!!!! I've owned many makes and models of cameras in that time.
The Sony RX10iv is the most useful camera I've ever owned, I rarely go out without it.
No complaints from me about image quality either, for what this camera is and its what its capabilities are, they are superb.


Dear Peter Duce...Ditto on your praise of the Sony RX10M4. Light weight and excellent performance. Thanks Buddy.

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Mar 30, 2021 10:05:20   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Shooter41 wrote:
Dear Mark... Like you, I was lugging my Canon EOS 6D Mark ll with a super heavy 70-200 Canon Zoom lens around the soccer field on a monopod, trying not to get a hernia last year before the Pandemic lockdown. Then I saw this small, light Sony RX10M4 with a 600mm telephoto lens on it and went bananas. Now I waddle around the pond at Botanica Gardens shooting close ups of ducks eyeballs clear across the pond, while the old ladies ask me, "What in the heck are you taking a picture of? I don't see anything!" Ain't it great to have such a small camera do so much for old geezers like me!
Dear Mark... Like you, I was lugging my Canon EOS ... (show quote)



Feel similarly! The only downside to Sony is the menu system. However, I simply shoot on manual and adjust the exposure. Seems to work for me. If I could nail my right hand to the camera and avoid my Parkinson's shakes, life might be photographically perfect. But, for 84 I'm not complaining.
Mark

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Mar 30, 2021 10:43:18   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
markngolf wrote:

Feel similarly! The only downside to Sony is the menu system. However, I simply shoot on manual and adjust the exposure. Seems to work for me. If I could nail my right hand to the camera and avoid my Parkinson's shakes, life might be photographically perfect. But, for 84 I'm not complaining.
Mark


Dear markngolf...For being 84 and having Parkinson's, you make some mighty good images. Before your post, I figured you at about 58 and working out like Arnold Swartzinnager! Hang in there, buddy. We still got some good years left in us.

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Mar 30, 2021 11:16:22   #
James56 Loc: Nashville, Tennessee
 
I also have been singing praises to this camera. With severe arthritis, I needed a good all-in-one camera that I could grab-n-go because I could no longer change out lenses or carry much gear. The Sony met my needs hands down. I've had both the RX100M3 and M4. Check out some of these shots fun shots I got with it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/james-frazier/albums/72157678229950722

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Mar 30, 2021 12:33:45   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
James56 wrote:
I also have been singing praises to this camera. With severe arthritis, I needed a good all-in-one camera that I could grab-n-go because I could no longer change out lenses or carry much gear. The Sony met my needs hands down. I've had both the RX100M3 and M4. Check out some of these shots fun shots I got with it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/james-frazier/albums/72157678229950722


Dear James56... After reviewing your images on flickr.com, I am amazed at the clarity of your images as well as the perfect exposure on every one. I would be interested in learning how you set your camera up at an event. (Do you always shoot manually and set the ISO on 100-200 to stay in the sweet spot on the RX10M4 or do you vary the ISO? Do you shoot off a tripod or monopod or hand held? Do you set the shutter speed at 1/640 and above so you can reach out to 600mm without camera shake? Do you adjust the aperature or always shoot at F4 for maximum light? IE...what sequence do you go through to set up your exposure at an event? I want to learn how to shoot images like you do. Shooter41

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Mar 30, 2021 13:10:10   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
James56 wrote:
I also have been singing praises to this camera. With severe arthritis, I needed a good all-in-one camera that I could grab-n-go because I could no longer change out lenses or carry much gear. The Sony met my needs hands down. I've had both the RX100M3 and M4. Check out some of these shots fun shots I got with it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/james-frazier/albums/72157678229950722


James,
Your images are fabulous!!! Thanks for sharing.
Mark

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Mar 30, 2021 13:27:46   #
James56 Loc: Nashville, Tennessee
 
Shooter41 wrote:
Dear James56... After reviewing your images on flickr.com, I am amazed at the clarity of your images as well as the perfect exposure on every one. I would be interested in learning how you set your camera up at an event. (Do you always shoot manually and set the ISO on 100-200 to stay in the sweet spot on the RX10M4 or do you vary the ISO? Do you shoot off a tripod or monopod or hand held? Do you set the shutter speed at 1/640 and above so you can reach out to 600mm without camera shake? Do you adjust the aperature or always shoot at F4 for maximum light? IE...what sequence do you go through to set up your exposure at an event? I want to learn how to shoot images like you do. Shooter41
Dear James56... After reviewing your images on fli... (show quote)


Hi Shooter 41. Well the answer is "all of the above". I know you didn't want to hear that. However, every shot is different. I just follow the basic rules of photography. I shoot in Manual mode (M). I set the ISO to the lowest possible for the given light. When in Manual, pushing Fn button on back the camera allows me to change or adjust ISO and focus area on the fly. I do change apertures based on what I'm trying to capture. Low numbers will give more bokeh, higher numbers will give more sharpness throughout the whole frame. All my shots are handheld. I seldom if ever use a tripod or monopod (therefore, I keep my shutter speeds as high as I can most of the time) In dark situations, I do open up the lens and up the ISO. Sometimes when I'm unsure where to set the camera settings, I'll put in on Auto and take a shot to see what the camera does. Then I'll put it back in Manual and used the numbers I got in Auto as a basis to start. Most of all, I rely heavily on the Electronic Viewfinder to tell me if my exposures are too light or dark. I will adjust shutter speed as needed to get what I think is the best exposure. When the RX10 is in Manual Mode, the thumbwheel on the back controls shutter speed, so that's how I make adjustments. I sometimes also change the focus area from wide to center and vs versa, depending on the subject. In short, it's a combination of using Aperture, Shutter Speed (or TV for Canon folks) and ISO. Perhaps, the best thing I've done is put in lots of practice with this camera. I know it like the back of my hand. I shoot with it everyday. Hope this helps a little. Sounds like you know about the basics. I would just get as much shooting time as you can. From what I've seen you off to a pretty good start. I would encourage you to just keep going.

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Mar 30, 2021 13:30:01   #
James56 Loc: Nashville, Tennessee
 
markngolf wrote:
James,
Your images are fabulous!!! Thanks for sharing.
Mark


Thanks Mark, this camera sure makes taking pictures fun. Glad you have one.

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Mar 30, 2021 13:41:36   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
James56 wrote:
Hi Shooter 41. Well the answer is "all of the above". I know you didn't want to hear that. However, every shot is different. I just follow the basic rules of photography. I shoot in Manual mode (M). I set the ISO to the lowest possible for the given light. When in Manual, pushing Fn button on back the camera allows me to change or adjust ISO and focus area on the fly. I do change apertures based on what I'm trying to capture. Low numbers will give more bokeh, higher numbers will give more sharpness throughout the whole frame. All my shots are handheld. I seldom if ever use a tripod or monopod (therefore, I keep my shutter speeds as high as I can most of the time) In dark situations, I do open up the lens and up the ISO. Sometimes when I'm unsure where to set the camera settings, I'll put in on Auto and take a shot to see what the camera does. Then I'll put it back in Manual and used the numbers I got in Auto as a basis to start. Most of all, I rely heavily on the Electronic Viewfinder to tell me if my exposures are too light or dark. I will adjust shutter speed as needed to get what I think is the best exposure. When the RX10 is in Manual Mode, the thumbwheel on the back controls shutter speed, so that's how I make adjustments. I sometimes also change the focus area from wide to center and vs versa, depending on the subject. In short, it's a combination of using Aperture, Shutter Speed (or TV for Canon folks) and ISO. Perhaps, the best thing I've done is put in lots of practice with this camera. I know it like the back of my hand. I shoot with it everyday. Hope this helps a little. Sounds like you know about the basics. I would just get as much shooting time as you can. From what I've seen you off to a pretty good start. I would encourage you to just keep going.
Hi Shooter 41. Well the answer is "all of the... (show quote)


Very good description of how to start with the RX10 series. I had the original, and am always searching for a combination to exceed that quality. Currently I am shooting a Full Frame A7lll, with a 24-70mm F2.8 heavy Sigma lens. It stands up to the Zeiss quality on the RX10 series.

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Mar 30, 2021 14:31:12   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
James56 wrote:
Thanks Mark, this camera sure makes taking pictures fun. Glad you have one.


I shoot the same as you - manual and adjust exposure with the settings using the fn button and displayed in the viewfinder. I have not really taken advantage of the exhaustive menu settings.
Mark

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Mar 30, 2021 15:00:30   #
a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
 
Shooter41 wrote:
Being a shaky old-geezer at age 79, I figured my days of hand holding my camera and shooting a 600mm lens well over one hundred feet across a pond at a duck in the brush were over. Wrong! Sony has created this amazing point and shoot camera that allows me to create images like I was twenty again. All of the credit goes to them and their amazing new technology. I love my Canon EOS 6D Mark ll, full sensor, for low-light, indoor soccer. However, I don't know how you can beat Sony's less expensive, point and shoot camera's ability to capture a ducks eye as sharp as an old-knife-blade at 220 mm in the sunlight? I think today's photographers are living in a amazing technological age to have access to such gear and the freedom to use it. (If they can sell enough images to afford it or have married up!)
Being a shaky old-geezer at age 79, I figured my d... (show quote)


I have one and it's my best all around camera. I bought the m3 after renting it, didn't even take half the rental period to make up my mind. The m4 is better for BIF, rapid focusing but otherwise the same.

In other words, this 79 year-old with shaky hands totally agrees!

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