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Mar 28, 2021 21:40:29   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Zoom is relative term because you need to ask is it optical or digital zoom. I don't know how much difference there is and what do you want to do with the photos is a factor.

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Mar 28, 2021 21:53:37   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
Zoom is relative term because you need to ask is it optical or digital zoom. I don't know how much difference there is and what do you want to do with the photos is a factor.


Yes, and how much cropping you need to do. I'm only considering optical zoom. And percent zoom is only the highest focal length divided by the lowest. It doesn't give you the equivalent focal length in mm. I know the pics of the moon with the 1440mm optical zoom on the Coolpix B700 with the 1/2.3" sensor were better than those taken with the 300mm lens used on full frame (300mm focal length) or an APS-C sensor (450mm equivalent) or the 1" sensor (810mm equivalent). But for birds cropped 100% the 1" sensor was best.

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Mar 29, 2021 11:25:47   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
I have several bridge cameras, two are Lumix and both produce exceptional pictures considering the sensor size. My FZ70 is used for most of my closeups of insects, birds, and flowers. It has an optical zoom from 20 to 1200mm. My other Lumix is the FZ100 which only reaches to 400mm optical but has a slightly larger sensor.

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Mar 29, 2021 12:46:21   #
mymike Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
In photography, size does matter!!

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Mar 29, 2021 16:29:22   #
pjalper Loc: San Pedro Ca.
 
I have the "required" Nikon kit with D750 and several Nikon prime glass. BUT I also have a FZ200 which serves me well when out and about. The FZ with a 2.8 app all across the spectrum
is worth it. Buy used and smart....Peter

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Mar 29, 2021 18:31:31   #
fredfinke Loc: Denver
 
RAW photos are about the only REAL advantage. I used (and only recently up graded) an FZ35 LUMIX camera (18x) and it’s simplicity and amazing optics are quite impressive! If you’re looking for light weight and great results you can’t do better.

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Mar 29, 2021 18:31:51   #
fredfinke Loc: Denver
 
RAW photos are about the only REAL advantage. I used (and only recently up graded) an FZ35 LUMIX camera (18x) and it’s simplicity and amazing optics are quite impressive! If you’re looking for light weight and great results you can’t do better.

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Mar 30, 2021 01:29:31   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
lesdmd wrote:
When your paycheck depends on producing consistent excellent results under varying conditions, a professional uses the best equipment available. The size of the camera and/or lens is a consideration only if it is limiting. The write off is inconsequential if the paycheck is big enough.
Bridge cameras have limitations (look them up). They may work for casual shooters under specific situations; but professionals want to maximize their results under all conditions. The tool should fit the job; and you won’t see a surgeon using a kitchen knife.
When your paycheck depends on producing consistent... (show quote)


Wrong! You can see a surgeon using a kitchen knife in a kitchen - just no kitchen knife in surgery!

All kidding aside, you are right that each tool has its proper place and use. There are professionals that own bridge cameras and know how to use them to help them to make a living. They prefer cameras with more quality and versatility. But if they need to use a bridge camera to get the shot to make their paycheck, I seriously doubt they would even consider hesitating.

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Mar 30, 2021 04:48:46   #
fredfinke Loc: Denver
 
wdross wrote:
Wrong! You can see a surgeon using a kitchen knife in a kitchen - just no kitchen knife in surgery!

All kidding aside, you are right that each tool has its proper place and use. There are professionals that own bridge cameras and know how to use them to help them to make a living. They prefer cameras with more quality and versatility. But if they need to use a bridge camera to get the shot to make their paycheck, I seriously doubt they would even consider hesitating.
Wrong! You can see a surgeon using a kitchen knife... (show quote)


I know there are many advantages to bells and whistles like controlling DOF and such but the build quality of a LUMIX, while not tank like aka Nikon, is far above a Brownie. The lens glass is made by Leica and the full frame FZ200 (25-600mm) is very respectable as a bridge, even at 12MP.

So in model railroad terms “you don’t have to be a rivet counter” to run a railroad and have fun!

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Mar 30, 2021 04:49:51   #
fredfinke Loc: Denver
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumix

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Mar 30, 2021 05:10:20   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
fredfinke wrote:
I know there are many advantages to bells and whistles like controlling DOF and such but the build quality of a LUMIX, while not tank like aka Nikon, is far above a Brownie. The lens glass is made by Leica and the full frame FZ200 (25-600mm) is very respectable as a bridge, even at 12MP.

So in model railroad terms “you don’t have to be a rivet counter” to run a railroad and have fun!



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Mar 30, 2021 08:09:47   #
adedeluca Loc: holbrook ny
 
Agree

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Mar 30, 2021 08:37:31   #
dpfoto Loc: Cape Coral, FL
 
It all depends on how you use them. I use Nikon DSLR cameras for my professional work. They have become too heavy to carry around on our vacation trips though. I recently purchased a (slightly used) Leica V-LUX 114, and used it last week at Disney World. I was amazed at the sharpness I was able to get with it. It weighs only about 24 ounces, which a lot lighter than the 3.5 pounds I had been carrying.

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Mar 30, 2021 09:57:08   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
fredfinke wrote:
... and the full frame FZ200 (25-600mm) is very respectable ...

We use the term "full frame" to indicate a camera with a sensor the size of a 35mm slide or negative. The FZ200 (or current FZ300) sensor is MUCH smaller than that.

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Mar 30, 2021 10:38:04   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
Gene51 wrote:
Tri-X is right on the money!

Your friend is a photographer, not a market analyst. The price of pro gear is mostly due to limited market and high R&D and marketing expenses. What you get is usually cutting edge performance and handling - something that the pros really enjoy.

On a typical HD screen - 1920x1080 or 1920x1200, a picture taken with a cellphone camera and its tiny sensor will look amazing, even compared to something out of a D850. The limiting factor is the resolution of the display - 2 mp or slightly higher. Even on a 4K display (8.8 mp), the cellphone image is going to look pretty good.

Printing will always show the strength of a full frame or larger camera, and conversely the weakness of tiny sensors.

When a client is paying for your services, it is certainly incumbent upon you to provide the best possible images. Based on how an image is going to be used, that might require anything from a cellphone camera (for photojournalism) to a medium format camera for product, industrial and fashion photography.

I use all three - a Pixel XL phone, a Sony RX10M4 (1" sensor) and a D810 full frame. There is no question that of the three, the D810 offers the best quality images especially when you need to crop and/or use it in crummy light. Can't say the same for the others.

Here are some sample images from the Sony:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157708803907866
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157708793788371
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157705234321622
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157678751378818
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157705352997741
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157678751186148
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157697217633732
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157696606493264
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157667029395028
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157689083645890
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157694805547345
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157665487054018
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157693140571925
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157665486900208
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157690214837382
Tri-X is right on the money! br br Your friend is... (show quote)


I always admire you posts. They are very helpful and intelligent. I had the Sony RX10 III the first bridge with the 600mm lens. As you have said I believe some critics were wrong. The visuals are very good. The camera good for everything. And shooting only had a problem with a long zoom focus shot in dim light like a soccer game late in the day. And the big time pro camera's. I - bought 2 of the first D800 had problems. I bought them for video. We shift our kit's according to our work and lives. I have been selling my Sony cameras and lens. At my age now find work gone this year Fuji a joy to work with. Just learning what they can do. Bought into asp-c as good for my work at this point. Still kept a Sony a7s II. Thanks for your thoughts.

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