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Mar 29, 2021 12:41:52   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
One additional suggestion would be to rent a 600 mm lens for a week and run it through a variety of shooting conditions. Then you know how it really works for you. Yes, it probably will be expensive to rent but if you decide it is not the right lens for you, you are not out $10,000+.

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Mar 29, 2021 13:04:59   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Gene51 wrote:
This was a feral cat - taken at 1/25 sec, hand held, using a 150-600mm Sigma Sport - I did not have to hire a mason to pour the concrete to minimize even the tiniest movement. I did switch on the optical stabilization, though. I just breathed normally and gently squeezed the shutter at the end of an exhale, assuming a shooter with a long gun with my left shoulder leading towards the cat. I was at or near the minimum focus distance of around 16 ft, where any movement (cat or me) would have resulted in obvious blur -the only softness you see is from the extreme cropping. Ferals are known to be skittish, but since I had been feeding her and providing shelter for the past 3 years, she put up with me.

FWIW, I often shoot in the "forbidden" range of shutter speeds with that lens. The stabilization is good enough to provide me with good images from 1/160 on up. The Sigma literature says its stabilization is good for up to 4 stops. I can't disagree. I haven't used a tripod with this lens. In contrast, I used a tripod 100% of the time with my 600mmF4 which weighed 10.5 lbs and had no stabilization.
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Yes, often it works, but not always, and esp in dim light early or late when my birds are feeding. And my definition of good is probably different from your definition. With my birds I more or less want to see the details of the feathers and the mites on them if I can.

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Mar 29, 2021 13:54:15   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
Gene51 wrote:
Thanks!

Nah. I've been shooting lots of wildlife for many years. With cameras. I've never shot a gun, but I use sniper training methods - well-proven and have yet to fail me. It doesn't hurt that I forego coffee/tea on shooting days, and I completely avoid soft drinks and energy drinks.

But this completely blew me away. A kill shot at 2.2 miles.

https://www.military.com/video/canadian-sniper-reportedly-hits-isis-fighter-22-miles-away-breaks-record

The Canadian snipers are pretty amazing:

https://www.businessinsider.com/canadian-snipers-set-longest-kill-records-amid-fighting-in-afghanistan-2021-3
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Apparently the bad guys have to get past the curvature of the earth before theyโ€™re safe!

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Mar 29, 2021 13:57:23   #
Schwabo Loc: Florida
 
I Took the 600mm 1:4L IS II to Alaska shooting Bald Eagles. I had no Problems with sharpness or anything else. Happy shooting.

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Mar 29, 2021 14:06:10   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
bwana wrote:
Canon won't be fixing the problem because it is a user problem and NOT a lens fault! It is simply vibration originating somewhere in the process of capturing the image and at 600mm vibration is greatly amplified.

bwa


For the record, it appears that the lens was producing ghost like effects at spโ€™s in the 200 range. It seems Canon addressed this with a firm ware update, v1.1.2.

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Mar 29, 2021 14:11:25   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
Schwabo wrote:
I Took the 600mm 1:4L IS II to Alaska shooting Bald Eagles. I had no Problems with sharpness or anything else. Happy shooting.


I knew v.II was solid but Iโ€™m looking for v.III.

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Mar 29, 2021 14:27:31   #
gouldopfl
 
Canon has announced that they moving away from the EF mount lenses. This lens was recently discontinued. The RF 600L f/4 is on the 2021 road map.

The great thing about Canon is the EF to RF adapter for the EOS R series may have been over engineered because all of my EF glass works wonderfully. Some lenses work better. Unless I am looking for faster glass I am not going to change from EF to RF at this point.

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Mar 29, 2021 15:02:37   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Now if they will come out with an RF>EF adapter for those who love their Canon DSLRs but want the newer lenses.

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Mar 29, 2021 15:43:20   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
My guess would be a $150 tripod and $75 head...

bwana wrote:
Canon won't be fixing the problem because it is a user problem and NOT a lens fault! It is simply vibration originating somewhere in the process of capturing the image and at 600mm vibration is greatly amplified.

bwa

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Mar 29, 2021 16:24:38   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Gene51 wrote:
This was a feral cat - taken at 1/25 sec, hand held, using a 150-600mm Sigma Sport - I did not have to hire a mason to pour the concrete to minimize even the tiniest movement. I did switch on the optical stabilization, though. I just breathed normally and gently squeezed the shutter at the end of an exhale, assuming a shooter with a long gun with my left shoulder leading towards the cat. I was at or near the minimum focus distance of around 16 ft, where any movement (cat or me) would have resulted in obvious blur -the only softness you see is from the extreme cropping. Ferals are known to be skittish, but since I had been feeding her and providing shelter for the past 3 years, she put up with me.

FWIW, I often shoot in the "forbidden" range of shutter speeds with that lens. The stabilization is good enough to provide me with good images from 1/160 on up. The Sigma literature says its stabilization is good for up to 4 stops. I can't disagree. I haven't used a tripod with this lens. In contrast, I used a tripod 100% of the time with my 600mmF4 which weighed 10.5 lbs and had no stabilization.
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Mar 29, 2021 16:54:31   #
al lehman Loc: San jose, ca.
 
I have a 600mm and absolutely love it. With that being said, I typically shoot wildlife, so I'm using higher shutter speeds. While in Africa, I could get tack sharp images where you can count ear hairs or eyelashes or chin hairs on a giraffe without using a tripod. I rested it on the roll bar of the jeep and fired away. The disadvantage with the lens is in low light conditions. With any f/4 to get tack sharp images with moving subjects you need to crank up the iso and the shutter speed and with my 600 it works very well. If you shoot wildlife, that 600 will allow you to photograph at greater distances from your subject creating less reason for critters to take off or have birds fly away. You may need to lift some weights and build up your biceps and triceps to haul it around. I'm 70 years old and pack the 600 beast around all the time. If you have the cash, you won't regret it.

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Mar 29, 2021 18:56:34   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
al lehman wrote:
I have a 600mm and absolutely love it. With that being said, I typically shoot wildlife, so I'm using higher shutter speeds. While in Africa, I could get tack sharp images where you can count ear hairs or eyelashes or chin hairs on a giraffe without using a tripod. I rested it on the roll bar of the jeep and fired away. The disadvantage with the lens is in low light conditions. With any f/4 to get tack sharp images with moving subjects you need to crank up the iso and the shutter speed and with my 600 it works very well. If you shoot wildlife, that 600 will allow you to photograph at greater distances from your subject creating less reason for critters to take off or have birds fly away. You may need to lift some weights and build up your biceps and triceps to haul it around. I'm 70 years old and pack the 600 beast around all the time. If you have the cash, you won't regret it.
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Thanks for your opinion! Your satisfaction encourages me to see that it winds up in my Easter Basket. The grand kids will be stuck with Peeps for yet another year.

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Mar 29, 2021 20:20:22   #
al lehman Loc: San jose, ca.
 
As I tell my kids, We all get to go around only one time. I've not met anybody that's gone around twice.
Enjoy that lens, it will open up more opportunity for you. For waterfowl, the majority of my photography with a large lens is shooting out the truck window. Have fun and enjoy!! Happy Easter!!!

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Mar 29, 2021 20:31:01   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
raymondh wrote:
I was considering rounding out my Canon L lens collection by spending my kids inheritance on this bad boy. Initially I read that this was one of the sharpest in the Canon family but I have since read some reviews from those that have it that it produces unusable images at slow shutter speeds. And Canon doesn't have it listed on their web site.
Any guesses on chances that Canon will correct the problem?


This is not a lens problem but user failure.

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Mar 29, 2021 20:34:21   #
al lehman Loc: San jose, ca.
 
agree 100%.......

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