Include EXIF or Not
Mar 28, 2021 18:52:09 #
Robertl594 wrote:
Personally, I find EXIF data useful. I also make sure that my copyright info is located in it along with some sort of contact info so that if anyone finds my low res images and wants to use it, it gives them an opportunity to find me to buy a full res file.
Robert brings up a good point regarding how EXIF data can be used for legitimate marketing and sales purposes.
I'd like to add that if the photographer inserts his copyright and contact information, that would serve as proof of ownership in case the image is illegally misappropriated and used without permission.
Mar 28, 2021 19:36:45 #
Norm11 wrote:
Robert brings up a good point regarding how EXIF data can be used for legitimate marketing and sales purposes.
I'd like to add that if the photographer inserts his copyright and contact information, that would serve as proof of ownership in case the image is illegally misappropriated and used without permission.
I'd like to add that if the photographer inserts his copyright and contact information, that would serve as proof of ownership in case the image is illegally misappropriated and used without permission.
Actually, the proper way to establish original ownership is to submit the work to the US Copyright office in a timely fashion. EXIF data is easily edited / replaced / removed, just like watermarks. See https://www.copyright.gov/ for details.
Mar 28, 2021 19:42:03 #
I don't agree that having EXIF data from a processed picture is worthless. It gives the viewer an idea of what settings were used as a starting point to get "from there to here". A very obvious example would be to learn from another's photograph that succeeded at freezing movement of a bird in flight. Exif data is still valuable as a base line.
Mar 28, 2021 19:58:20 #
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
I don't agree that having EXIF data from a processed picture is worthless. It gives the viewer an idea of what settings were used as a starting point to get "from there to here". A very obvious example would be to learn from another's photograph that succeeded at freezing movement of a bird in flight. Exif data is still valuable as a base line.
The only reference to "worthless" in the thread so far was mine, in the context of "Once edited, most EXIF info regarding the image is worthless." regarding an edited image.
For example: I changed the white balance from AUTO to Tungsten in one RAW file and saved it as a JPEG. The EXIF in the saved JPEG stated WB was AUTO, but it was clearly tungsten.
Also notice I also said MOST, not ALL.
Mar 28, 2021 20:07:14 #
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Mar 28, 2021 21:27:25 #
rmalarz wrote:
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I view EXIF data not to copy another person’s work but to help me understand how an image was made. Part of my learning curve.
Mar 28, 2021 22:05:11 #
If and when people ask for help with one of the shots posted without the EXIF data, there is really nothing to respond to. I never got the impression that people ask for the data to see if they could duplicate the shot, which would be crazy. Paul usually asks for the data to maybe help the poster with future shots.
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WJH
Mar 28, 2021 22:06:39 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I agree with you on the usefulness of the EXIF but if I shoot digital and the EXIF is there I don't touch it. I am not going to remove it or change it.
Mar 28, 2021 23:27:22 #
I like to see the EXIF data as a learning tool because I consider myself a rank amatuer and say if I want BIF shots or dark night shots or bright harsh daylight shots I like to look at some of you expert's shots & get a starting point or see what I might be doing wrong. I have benefited greatly by looking at the data sometimes it merely refreshes my memory sometimes it surprise me I didn't think of that. For whatever reason it I like seeing it & I believe I find value in it....isn't helping other UHH members part of this site? Why would you not want to help (other than pros selling their pics...that I understand)? I find that I am looking less as I get better but it still is reassuring to see it once in a while. I now just learned that maybe it is not as reliable as I thought due to so many manipulating the pics & improving them...I have started adjusting exposures slightly myself & of course cropping them...
Mar 28, 2021 23:42:29 #
Longshadow wrote:
I just post an image. The EXIF never crosses my mind at all.
I never look at it when editing either. I just edit.
But it's possible I could be curious about what focal length was used.
But rarely.
I just post an image. The EXIF never crosses my mind at all.
I never look at it when editing either. I just edit.
But it's possible I could be curious about what focal length was used.
But rarely.
I agree. I ignore EXIF data. Editing by numbers would be just like painting by numbers. My eye is the guide that leads me to where I want to go.
Mar 29, 2021 09:18:32 #
Hello,
I am an image analysist and very often I see an image here on this site which is beautiful as well as technologically interesting. I value the EXIF information for many reasons. It does not alter the image nor does it take up much memory on disk, but can make an interesting image even more so. Thanks.
Robert (Bob) Smith
I am an image analysist and very often I see an image here on this site which is beautiful as well as technologically interesting. I value the EXIF information for many reasons. It does not alter the image nor does it take up much memory on disk, but can make an interesting image even more so. Thanks.
Robert (Bob) Smith
Mar 29, 2021 10:05:14 #
robertjsmith wrote:
Hello,
I am an image analysist and very often I see an image here on this site which is beautiful as well as technologically interesting. I value the EXIF information for many reasons. It does not alter the image nor does it take up much memory on disk, but can make an interesting image even more so. Thanks.
Robert (Bob) Smith
I am an image analysist and very often I see an image here on this site which is beautiful as well as technologically interesting. I value the EXIF information for many reasons. It does not alter the image nor does it take up much memory on disk, but can make an interesting image even more so. Thanks.
Robert (Bob) Smith
I could not agree more. This simple question certainly evoked a lot of commentary, some a little on the aggressive side. Not sure I understand why that.
Mar 29, 2021 10:58:12 #
To both Roberts, in the image I presented, without knowing my Zonal placement or the specific spot in the scene I metered, how is the EXIF data of any use to you?
--Bob
--Bob
Mar 29, 2021 11:19:38 #
rmalarz wrote:
To both Roberts, in the image I presented, without knowing my Zonal placement or the specific spot in the scene I metered, how is the EXIF data of any use to you?
--Bob
--Bob
You are citing one example. IMHO, Individual images may not have exif data value, however, others may. I doubt people pick and choose which images to share exif data so default on or off is probably the most common practice. I do think date and time info is important to me, for my images.
I really don’t think this topic is really worth much more energy as I think it’s down to personal preference. If you don’t find it of value, don’t look and don’t share it. If you do, it’s there.
Over and out.
RL
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