mike720

I’m retired so Z lens are out of my price range. I have been using F lenses and the adapter with great results.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

Nostalgia I guess. Maybe it’s a reminder that I too am becoming more a part of the past than the future.

fetzler Loc: North West PA

When you do flash photography, Are you aware that mirrorless cameras have LiveView Boost (or similar name depending on brand) ? This feature allows one to see the subject clearly but you don't see the simulated exposure on the screen.

sneddog Loc: Portland, Maine

I just plain lucked out two weekends ago when i checked amazon.com ,b&h, adorama, etc amazon said they had ONE Just ONE Z7II body for 2996! amazingly it was still there when i hit purchase immediately and i received it that Monday morning. I had rented both the Z6II and the Z7II prior to purchase so i knew i also wanted the 50 1.8 which is my new “Always on” lens. i have since bought a 24 1.8 and that’s perfect for me. i can shot 80-90% of what i shoot with those two primes. and what primes they are! amazing edge to edge sharpness WIDE OPEN. Yup. Add to that amazing color rendition, pop and bokeh and i’m a convert to Z. I still have my 24-70 f2.8 VR, 70-200 VR, AF-S 14-24, etc that i can use with the excellent IMO FTZ adapter but I never do except for the 70-200 for the reach. also with the nikons amazing ,now everywhere 45MP sensor I can switch to DX mode and now the 70-200 is a nice 105-300 f2.8.
the new huge diameter z mount allows for such superior optics that IMO the F mount is going to be gradually fazed out over say 5-10 years Nikon being Nikon. There’s room in the world for both the F and Z mounts but for me i am convert to what i feel is the clearly technologically superior mount...Z.
i still have my D750’s they just don’t come out to play these days and have been relegated to backup status in the bag.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

That's the key point about mirrorless: you maximize the difference by using the newest and the sharpest ever mirrorless-specific lenses. Mindless GAS to buy yet another new camera body is not what mirrorless is about. Mirrorless is a way of life, seeing the world through new lenses and knowing that light reaches a sensor having never been reflected. If we gave two people each a digital camera and a lens, and after a week we learned one was given a mirrorless camera, who do you think will be better?

JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell

[quote=CHG_CANON]A few data points:

The Z-mount lenses are superior.

How/why are Z- mount lenses superior? Better glass? Better manufacturing? ??????
Some might be better than some F-mount lenses but then again some F-mount lenses might be better than all Z-mount lenses. I doubt that all Z-mount lenses are better than all F-mount lenses which your statement implies.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

I'll defer the Nikon fanboys to define the technical aspects of 'why' the Z-mount / S lenses are better.

On a more general basis, the new lenses are new lens designs reflecting the latest thinking and possibilities of computer-aided design, materials and manufacturing, including for Nikon a change in both the flange distance and the throat size. I defy you to find anyone with experience who thinks some or even one F-mount lens is better or even equal to the corresponding replacement in the Z-mount.

DXO can provide the 'facts'. I'll just make the statement that every single one of the mirrorless lenses is better. Very shortly now, we'll have trouble remembering cameras ever were burdened by mirrors.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

That’s a BS answer. You say that Z/S lenses are superior and when someone asks why you ‘defer” answering to someone else?

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

OK, prove they're not S - superior.

waiting ... TIA

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

I don’t have to prove anything. You are the one who made the claim, not me. If you can’t support what you say don’t say it.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

A few data points:

The Z-mount lenses are superior.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

Why?

oregonfrank Loc: Astoria, Oregon

First, for what it’s worth, I took your original statement that Z lenses are superior to F lenses as an opinion.
Second, the absence of negative information (as in prove they are not) is not proof that one is superior.
Third, I don’t have an opinion on Z vs F lenses. Frank

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rangel28

The D500 has a better focusing system, as well as a separate processor for the focusing system, so it focuses quickly and accurately, especially for fast moving subjects like birds. While I love the Z50, and focus peaking is a great feature of that camera, it can't compare to the D500.