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Mar 7, 2021 16:42:04   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
You've got to go with what feels instinctive and true to your heart, and filter out all of the other stuff.

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Mar 7, 2021 17:30:24   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Ritz wrote:
In the past I have asked and answered questions on this site and the responses have been respectful. Sorry all for bringing up the topic. You all have taught me a lesson. I guess some of you needed an outlet because of the virus.
I won't take up any more of your time.
Ritz


Just that there are so many "authorities" referenced here...

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Mar 8, 2021 06:08:35   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
As the wags say, "it's your funeral“. I have clear filters on all my lenses all the time unless I am shooting directly into the sun. I have done tests that have shown me pretty clearly that a clear filter does not deteriorate an image viewed at 100%. No perceptible difference. It adds a very minor amount of extra flare around a very bright point source of light. When that bothers me I take the filter off. I am in pretty hairy conditions sometimes: in dust storms, on ships at sea, in the Arctic and in steaming jungles shooting documentaries. I have replaced filters from time to time, but I don't have a single mark on the glass of any of my lenses.

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Mar 8, 2021 07:08:42   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Ritz wrote:
I saw that this past week we had rehashed the old controversial question about to UV filter or not to protect our expensive lenses. I felt compelled to ask my go to person, who I highly respect. If you’re interested, below is the question and the response, for what it’s worth.

My (Ritz) Filter/Lens Protector Question:
I had a question about camera lens protection, which I have
heard has been debated to adnauseam, also on the Ugly Hedgehog 
web site. I have Canon "L" lenses and the question is, should high
grade UV or Clear filters be used to add additional protection to the lens
or no filter at all? Maybe just rely on a lens hood for lens protection.
And of cause the issue of filter interference with exposure quality
comes up as well.

Scott’s Response:
In my opinion there should be no UV lens in front of the cameras glass. 
My reasons are as follows...
The glass on the lens is expensive and made at the sharpest quality possible. 
The lenses are well treated with anti glare products at the factory for best use. 
If you were to hit something with the camera lens, a filter would certainly break and scratch the element of the camera for possibly double the damage. 
Image quality.. Unless there is some haze you are looking to clear up a UV filter is basically useless and can even add glare and ghosting from the double pain of glass at the front of the camera.

So, I am against the UV filter. Everything quality wise and filter wise can be done on computer anyway. Hope that helps!!

Creatively Yours,
Scott
Master Photographer
Master Craftsman
President of PPGNY
Canon Ambassador
Wildlife Photographer Contributor to National Geographic
I saw that this past week we had rehashed the old ... (show quote)


UV filter no. They were meant for film. Clear filter yes. Protects the front glass from the elements and there is no noticeable degradation of the image.

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Mar 8, 2021 07:22:52   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
I have a filter on all my lenses. I have had a situation where one saved my lens. If you think Scott is the "guru" who is all knowing than certainly follow. But, my experience tells me different.

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Mar 8, 2021 07:48:35   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
So, you're going to keep the ad nauseam thing going with this Scott fellow's opinion. I agree with those who call Scott's apparent reputation into question.

I'll keep using my B+W filters, thank you. There are times when I do remove them for certain photo situations. Otherwise, they are part of the lens.
--Bob
Ritz wrote:
I saw that this past week we had rehashed the old controversial question about to UV filter or not to protect our expensive lenses. I felt compelled to ask my go to person, who I highly respect. If you’re interested, below is the question and the response, for what it’s worth.

My (Ritz) Filter/Lens Protector Question:
I had a question about camera lens protection, which I have
heard has been debated to adnauseam, also on the Ugly Hedgehog 
web site. I have Canon "L" lenses and the question is, should high
grade UV or Clear filters be used to add additional protection to the lens
or no filter at all? Maybe just rely on a lens hood for lens protection.
And of cause the issue of filter interference with exposure quality
comes up as well.

Scott’s Response:
In my opinion there should be no UV lens in front of the cameras glass. 
My reasons are as follows...
The glass on the lens is expensive and made at the sharpest quality possible. 
The lenses are well treated with anti glare products at the factory for best use. 
If you were to hit something with the camera lens, a filter would certainly break and scratch the element of the camera for possibly double the damage. 
Image quality.. Unless there is some haze you are looking to clear up a UV filter is basically useless and can even add glare and ghosting from the double pain of glass at the front of the camera.

So, I am against the UV filter. Everything quality wise and filter wise can be done on computer anyway. Hope that helps!!

Creatively Yours,
Scott
Master Photographer
Master Craftsman
President of PPGNY
Canon Ambassador
Wildlife Photographer Contributor to National Geographic
I saw that this past week we had rehashed the old ... (show quote)

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Mar 8, 2021 08:27:23   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
Neither a filter nor a lens hood is going to protect a lens from a drop onto a hard surface. That is entirely in the hands of Lady Luck.
A filter will protect your lens from dirt, sand, gunge, finger prints, dust etc . and reduce the number of times you need to clean the front glass. I don’t mind having to clean a filter, but I do hesitate at the thought of scrubbing muck off the expensive coating on my lenses.
If I ever go on a shoot for National Geographic like your friend Scott, I may take the filter off.

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Mar 8, 2021 08:37:46   #
Canisdirus
 
Specifically...UV filters are...useless.
Every major camera brand sensor already filters out UV more aggressively than a standard UV filter.
Now whether you want a 'protective' filter...is another issue.

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Mar 8, 2021 08:49:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Specifically...UV filters are...useless.
...
...

As a digital photographic element, not in general.

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Mar 8, 2021 09:16:00   #
Canisdirus
 
Longshadow wrote:
As a digital photographic element, not in general.


I won't try and decode your post.
It's pretty simple...all major camera brand sensors filter out UV BETTER than standard UV filters...period.

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Mar 8, 2021 09:20:55   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Ritz wrote:
I saw that this past week we had rehashed the old controversial question about to UV filter or not to protect our expensive lenses. I felt compelled to ask my go to person, who I highly respect. If you’re interested, below is the question and the response, for what it’s worth.

My (Ritz) Filter/Lens Protector Question:
I had a question about camera lens protection, which I have
heard has been debated to adnauseam, also on the Ugly Hedgehog 
web site. I have Canon "L" lenses and the question is, should high
grade UV or Clear filters be used to add additional protection to the lens
or no filter at all? Maybe just rely on a lens hood for lens protection.
And of cause the issue of filter interference with exposure quality
comes up as well.

Scott’s Response:
In my opinion there should be no UV lens in front of the cameras glass. 
My reasons are as follows...
The glass on the lens is expensive and made at the sharpest quality possible. 
The lenses are well treated with anti glare products at the factory for best use. 
If you were to hit something with the camera lens, a filter would certainly break and scratch the element of the camera for possibly double the damage. 
Image quality.. Unless there is some haze you are looking to clear up a UV filter is basically useless and can even add glare and ghosting from the double pain of glass at the front of the camera.

So, I am against the UV filter. Everything quality wise and filter wise can be done on computer anyway. Hope that helps!!

Creatively Yours,
Scott
Master Photographer
Master Craftsman
President of PPGNY
Canon Ambassador
Wildlife Photographer Contributor to National Geographic
I saw that this past week we had rehashed the old ... (show quote)


There is not really a bigger chance of the lens getting scratched from a broken filter, than I'd you dropped the camera with no filter. That is silly.

With digital, you do not need a uv filter. A filter is your decision. If you really want one, go with a good quality clear one. As you said, a hood also works.

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Mar 8, 2021 09:34:56   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Ritz wrote:
I saw that this past week we had rehashed the old controversial question about to UV filter or not to protect our expensive lenses. I felt compelled to ask my go to person, who I highly respect. If you’re interested, below is the question and the response, for what it’s worth.

My (Ritz) Filter/Lens Protector Question:
I had a question about camera lens protection, which I have
heard has been debated to adnauseam, also on the Ugly Hedgehog 
web site. I have Canon "L" lenses and the question is, should high
grade UV or Clear filters be used to add additional protection to the lens
or no filter at all? Maybe just rely on a lens hood for lens protection.
And of cause the issue of filter interference with exposure quality
comes up as well.

Scott’s Response:
In my opinion there should be no UV lens in front of the cameras glass. 
My reasons are as follows...
The glass on the lens is expensive and made at the sharpest quality possible. 
The lenses are well treated with anti glare products at the factory for best use. 
If you were to hit something with the camera lens, a filter would certainly break and scratch the element of the camera for possibly double the damage. 
Image quality.. Unless there is some haze you are looking to clear up a UV filter is basically useless and can even add glare and ghosting from the double pain of glass at the front of the camera.

So, I am against the UV filter. Everything quality wise and filter wise can be done on computer anyway. Hope that helps!!

Creatively Yours,
Scott
Master Photographer
Master Craftsman
President of PPGNY
Canon Ambassador
Wildlife Photographer Contributor to National Geographic
I saw that this past week we had rehashed the old ... (show quote)


Scott, I see you call yourself a Master Photographer, and a National Geographic contributor, yet you have to ask your mentor about the benefits and drawbacks of using a UV filter. Something does not sound right. And on top of that you call yourself a Canon Ambassador, interesting.
Personally, I have never used a UV filter, too heavy for my long lenses. I do agree with most of your mentor's comments except the one about the UV filter damaging the end glass in the event of a impact. That has not been my experience, but again, not my experience in over 50 years as a professional photographer, whatever that is worth.

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Mar 8, 2021 09:49:27   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
billnikon wrote:
Scott, I see you call yourself a Master Photographer, and a National Geographic contributor, yet you have to ask your mentor about the benefits and drawbacks of using a UV filter. Something does not sound right. And on top of that you call yourself a Canon Ambassador, interesting.
Personally, I have never used a UV filter, too heavy for my long lenses. I do agree with most of your mentor's comments except the one about the UV filter damaging the end glass in the event of a impact. That has not been my experience, but again, not my experience in over 50 years as a professional photographer, whatever that is worth.
Scott, I see you call yourself a Master Photograph... (show quote)


Scott is not the one asking the question.

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Mar 8, 2021 10:14:01   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
The important question is, does "Scott" use a DSLR or mirrorless? Only one of those would make him reputable concerning the use of UV/Protective filters.

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Mar 8, 2021 10:34:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
johngault007 wrote:
The important question is, does "Scott" use a DSLR or mirrorless? Only one of those would make him reputable concerning the use of UV/Protective filters.


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