Silverrails wrote:
Do any of Our many Experienced and even the Still Progressing Photographers here at UHH Edit B&W Images?
If So, What aspect of a B&W Image would you feel would Require Editing?..... Definitely NOT the Color.!!
Please provide Specifics for the members of UHH that want to be more informed in Photo Editing.
Thank You.
The first important processing for B&W is to shoot RAW and convert it to B&W. This enables you to control how the colors are converted to grey tones. You can lighten or darken skies or skin tones, or create contrast between two colors which might render as the same tone of grey if you just capture the image in B&W. After that you can control contrast, and burn and dodge just like we did printing B&W film.
stevelink wrote:
Greetings! I find that processing/editing a B&W jpeg in Photoshop affords a multitude of creative options. Regarding image sharpness, a main criterion of mine, I always try to optimize the sharpness of my desired focus point in-camera, using the appropriate lens, aperture, precise focus point, subject distance, DOF, etc., rather than relying on a sharpness/Unsharpness function in the software. That said, the myriad tools in Photoshop are often employed to "tweak" the image before final publication.
Greetings! I find that processing/editing a B&... (
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Curious about the setting you used to get that SOOC.
Silverrails wrote:
Do any of Our many Experienced and even the Still Progressing Photographers here at UHH Edit B&W Images?
If So, What aspect of a B&W Image would you feel would Require Editing?..... Definitely NOT the Color.!!
Please provide Specifics for the members of UHH that want to be more informed in Photo Editing.
Thank You.
I shoot in color and convert to B&W in post processing, so it's a yes for me
Silverrails wrote:
Do any of Our many Experienced and even the Still Progressing Photographers here at UHH Edit B&W Images?
If So, What aspect of a B&W Image would you feel would Require Editing?..... Definitely NOT the Color.!!
Please provide Specifics for the members of UHH that want to be more informed in Photo Editing.
Thank You.
Not the Color? I specifically shoot in RAW and play with the color channels in PP to exaggerate or tone down adjacent shades of gray to try and make my image's message more appropriate. RAW conversion is the only way to go IMHO.
Silverrails wrote:
......What aspect of a B&W Image would you feel would Require Editing?.....
In very general terms the standout difference between colour and B&W is the amount of contrast that's needed. If flatness or softness aren't your objective you'll find that in almost all cases B&W editing involves using more contrast than the colour version would require. (One of the possible exceptions to that is portraiture, where contrast can have a very unflattering effect. Most people wouldn't want their granny to look like a weather-beaten hobo
).
Coming a close second to contrast would be local adjustments to brightness in order to manipulate the viewer's attention. That technique is used in colour editing as well but in B&W it acquires more significance. (The same can be said for sharpening).
Without the visual cues that colour provides, the cues of brightness, contrast and sharpness become more relevant. The placement and intensity of brightness, contrast and sharpness are relevant in colour editing but they acquire greater significance in B&W editing.
Checked-out photographers recommend to develop the photograph first for its color then for its B&W qualities. Further, not all photographs appeal in B&W. So the photographer has to use his judgment in this matter.
Silverrails wrote:
Do any of Our many Experienced and even the Still Progressing Photographers here at UHH Edit B&W Images?
If So, What aspect of a B&W Image would you feel would Require Editing?..... Definitely NOT the Color.!!
Please provide Specifics for the members of UHH that want to be more informed in Photo Editing.
Thank You.
Silverrails wrote:
Do any of Our many Experienced and even the Still Progressing Photographers here at UHH Edit B&W Images?
If So, What aspect of a B&W Image would you feel would Require Editing?..... Definitely NOT the Color.!!
Please provide Specifics for the members of UHH that want to be more informed in Photo Editing.
Thank You.
"Definitely NOT the Color.!!" ????
I often work with the colors somewhat before converting to b/w, usually increasing the saturation somewhat. "Editing" would be basically doing the same things we would do in the darkroom, burning, dodging, contrast adjustments, sharpening, etc., etc.
My answer is Yes. Many B & W digital images require the same steps previously done in a darkroom, like correct development and fixing, dodging and burning, etc and proper techniques.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Silverrails wrote:
Do any of Our many Experienced and even the Still Progressing Photographers here at UHH Edit B&W Images?
If So, What aspect of a B&W Image would you feel would Require Editing?..... Definitely NOT the Color.!!
Please provide Specifics for the members of UHH that want to be more informed in Photo Editing.
Thank You.
Raw is always preferable to the alternative.
That is why I do what "CHG CANON" said, shoot JPG, print and sell.
These are great responses, covering the gamet of what BW photography is really all about. BW conversion is the last step of many including significant attention to color grading. I would invite you to check out Blake Rudis f64 Youtube B/W tutorial.
DWU2
Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
Of course processing black and white benefits from having the greatest amount of information available at the beginning... that is raw. Since digital black and white begins with color one benefits from incorporating interpreting how color renders as black and white. We are attempting to attain a given tonal response in outputting black and white. In film photography (panchromatic) the emulsion is most sensitive to red. We, in outputting fine black and white need to recognize and utilize this. In film we use lens filtration... We do much the same in digital by manipulating the tonal response of the colors.
Kozan
Loc: Trenton Tennessee
Silverrails wrote:
Do any of Our many Experienced and even the Still Progressing Photographers here at UHH Edit B&W Images?
If So, What aspect of a B&W Image would you feel would Require Editing?..... Definitely NOT the Color.!!
Please provide Specifics for the members of UHH that want to be more informed in Photo Editing.
Thank You.
Absolutely YES. And the reason is that the individual colors can be tweaked for brightness. You may want a green to be darker, or lighter. You may want to emphasize a RED in the scene. You can also change cyan and magenta. So, yes, colors are important in that they can be manipulated.
Always shoot in color and post process so you can get the exact image you want.
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