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If a modern camera has a wide dynamic range why do I use HDR?
Mar 1, 2021 11:33:37 #
HDR exists because nature has an even wider dynamic range than camera sensors today.
Mar 1, 2021 15:54:27 #
rhudston
Loc: Nova Scotia
Ysarex wrote:
I stopped messing with HDR some years ago. And yes... (show quote)
I'm impressed - I'm an old film hobby photographer getting into the amazing possibilities of new cameras. HDR looks like it opens up a whole new world for me. Would you please go into a little more depth about how you achieved your third image?
Mar 1, 2021 16:03:54 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
rhudston wrote:
I'm impressed - I'm an old film hobby photographer getting into the amazing possibilities of new cameras. HDR looks like it opens up a whole new world for me. Would you please go into a little more depth about how you achieved your third image?
The third image is not HDR. I simply edited the raw file. It was necessary to create some masks -- luminance and hand painted -- to apply different amounts of tone/color adjustment to different sections of the image. I used the raw converter Capture One which makes a task like that pretty fast and easy.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:05:18 #
twosummers wrote:
I am a real estate photographer and never 100% hap... (show quote)
Six stops is pretty minimal compared to the human eye, at about 15-20 stops. HDR is the only option until a sensor with far greater dynamic range is developed.
bwa
Mar 1, 2021 16:41:37 #
Mar 1, 2021 16:50:55 #
Ysarex wrote:
The third image is not HDR. I simply edited the raw file. It was necessary to create some masks -- luminance and hand painted -- to apply different amounts of tone/color adjustment to different sections of the image. I used the raw converter Capture One which makes a task like that pretty fast and easy.
It was also taken at the camera's base ISO of 64 where the Z7's dynamic range is at its maximum.
HDR is intended for situations where the camera's DR at base ISO is not enough to cover the scene's DR.
It helped that it was not sunny outside and that there is a screen in the window that reduced the brightness. Taken on a sunny day with the window open and no screen this would have been more of a challenge.
Mar 1, 2021 17:09:21 #
Here is a good basic on doing HDR - this one they shot frames in RAW and combine in processing. Some cameras will do simple HDR in camera but this "hard way" will almost always get better results.
https://photographylife.com/landscapes/hdr-photography-tutorial
Oh, I forgot, some software will take a single frame and fake the HDR. Corel's Paintshop Pro will do it and so will some dedicated HDR software. But again, usually the multiple shot method does better.
Here are the out of camera and a Paintshop Pro HDR done by splitting the OOC and then recombining them that I did several years ago.
#1 OOC of a car engine at a car show
#2 The artificial HDR version
Yes the colors are funky, the new version of the software does better and the hard way with separate shots does better yet.
https://photographylife.com/landscapes/hdr-photography-tutorial
Oh, I forgot, some software will take a single frame and fake the HDR. Corel's Paintshop Pro will do it and so will some dedicated HDR software. But again, usually the multiple shot method does better.
Here are the out of camera and a Paintshop Pro HDR done by splitting the OOC and then recombining them that I did several years ago.
#1 OOC of a car engine at a car show
#2 The artificial HDR version
Yes the colors are funky, the new version of the software does better and the hard way with separate shots does better yet.
Mar 1, 2021 17:24:49 #
Your missing nothing. I've shot lots of interiors going back to the RZ67 days, polaroids and strobes. IMO the easiest way to shoot realestate interiors is to expose for the windows and keep the aperture around F5.6-F8 then bounce flash back behind the camera up into the corners of the ceiling. I used a large Metz flash with a simple small reflector attached. Every time I struck a dark wooden roof and shot HDRs I was never happy with the end result.
Mar 1, 2021 17:27:25 #
robertjerl wrote:
... Yes the colors are funky, the new version of the software does better and the hard way with separate shots does better yet.
Funky is what gives HDR a bad rep.
When it’s done more conservatively you can’t tell it’s HDR.
Mar 1, 2021 18:52:50 #
CO wrote:
Many scenes are beyond the dynamic range of the sensor in the camera. I had a very difficult time with the neon sign in this photo. The sign was always blown out. I finally had to bracket 7 exposures each 3-stops apart and merge them in Photomatix Pro.
Your end result is amazing.
Mar 2, 2021 10:25:17 #
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Mar 2, 2021 10:27:23 #
I use them extensively, Raya Pro included.
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risenhart wrote:
Has anyone used luminosity masks in Photoshop or the RayaPro app?
Mar 2, 2021 10:33:07 #
rmalarz wrote:
I use them extensively, Raya Pro included.
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Thanks Bob, I think I will roil up my sleeves and learn something new.
Dick
Mar 2, 2021 11:39:20 #
risenhart wrote:
Has anyone used luminosity masks in Photoshop or the RayaPro app?
I have used them in Capture One. They are part of the program, not an add-on feature.
Mar 2, 2021 11:51:47 #
mflowe
Loc: Port Deposit, MD
risenhart wrote:
Has anyone used luminosity masks in Photoshop or the RayaPro app?
I use them on 90% of my images. They're not just for blending HDR images. You can make adjustments to specific tones in an image with perfect feathering. I use the TK panels developed by Tony Kuyper. Jimmy McIntyre has a free panel that's good if you don't want to get too complicated.
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