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Feb 15, 2021 08:34:17   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
thom w wrote:
Exactly how are they unrelated? If I can't afford to pay rent, I'm homeless. Seems pretty obvious. That some (probably very few) could afford to not be homeless and still are, proves nothing, except in their isolated cases.


The facts don't lie! Wanna tally up the Red and Blue States there????

Here are the 10 States with the highest and 10 with the lowest homeless per capita rates per 100,000, based on HUD's 2019 figures:

Highest Homelessness Rate:

1) New York 473.4
2) Hawaii 452.9
3) California 382.9
4) Oregon 376.4
5) Washington 283.4
6) Massachusetts 265.8
7) Alaska 260.7
8) Nevada 232.7
9) Vermont 174.5
10) Colorado 167.0

Lowest Homeless Rate:

1) Mississippi 39.8
2) Louisiana 63.3
3) Alabama 66.5
4) Virginia 67.8
5) N. Dakota 73.1
6) Iowa 73.4
7) Wisconsin 77.9
8) W. Virginia 78.2
9) Illinois 80.5
10) S. Carolina 81

https://psydprograms.org/the-places-with-the-most-and-least-homelessness-in-america/

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Feb 15, 2021 08:41:12   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
WNYShooter wrote:
The facts don't lie!

Here are the 10 States with the highest and 10 with the lowest homeless per capita rates per 100,000, based on HUD's 2019 figures:

Highest Homelessness Rate:

1) New York 473.4
2) Hawaii 452.9
3) California 382.9
4) Oregon 376.4
5) Washington 283.4
6) Massachusetts 265.8
7) Alaska 260.7
8) Nevada 232.7
9) Vermont 174.5
10) Colorado 167.0

Lowest Homeless Rate:

1) Mississippi 39.8
2) Louisiana 63.3
3) Alabama 66.5
4) Virginia 67.8
5) N. Dakota 73.1
6) Iowa 73.4
7) Wisconsin 77.9
8) W. Virginia 78.2
9) Illinois 80.5
10) S. Carolina 81

https://psydprograms.org/the-places-with-the-most-and-least-homelessness-in-america/
The facts don't lie! br br Here are the 10 States... (show quote)


That doesn't prove they are unrelated. It does prove that there are other factors involved. Climate is a major factor. In some states being homeless, means not being around next year.

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Feb 15, 2021 08:54:38   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
skylane5sp wrote:
Do you ever have anything intelligent to contribute?


we all know the answer to that

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Feb 15, 2021 09:02:59   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
thom w wrote:
In your case, it would seem a little late for that.


Do u do anything besides insult.
I guess u take out you frustrations on others. Your wife calling you Tiny Thom all these years has finally taken its toll

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Feb 15, 2021 09:21:15   #
Papa j Loc: Cary NC
 
WNYShooter wrote:
Having been homeless and destitute at one point in my life, no thanks to drug and alcohol addiction, this is an issue very close to my heart, and I can say without any hesitation that homelessness is a very complex issue, and there is no one solution to it. The problem is that individuals end up in this predicament for a whole host of reasons, but more importantly, many end up staying there for very wide range of reasons.

Thanks to that experience, I have devoted much time and effort years since into helping homeless folks in my area. I've also learned that these people come from all walks of life. One of the best chess players I ever met was a homeless guy in Toronto in the early 80's. He used to hang in Dundas Square across from the Eaton Center. Some of the tables had chessboards inlaid on them. He would play people on up to four of them at the same time for $1 a game, and I don't think I ever saw him lose. He creamed me many times. Another guy I knew was a bank manager who went though a bad divorce which lead to depression and heroin. I, along with others, tried to help him back, but we were never able to gut him to want to come out of it--believe it or not, that is not only the key, but also the very hardest part of helping somebody to get out, getting them to decide they want out. I spoken with many politicians and so called homeless "Experts" who think the solution is to get them into a institutional setting. Most of the homeless folks I've met over the years want nothing to do with institutional anything.

The hardest folks to help are those who have been there the longest as it has become a way of life for them.
Having been homeless and destitute at one point in... (show quote)


Thanks for your words WNY inspiring, factual, and a humbling account. Just the idea that their plight is their own doing is appalling. Thank for your commitment to the journey

J

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Feb 15, 2021 09:27:42   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
soba1 wrote:
Do u do anything besides insult.
I guess u take out you frustrations on others. Your wife calling you Tiny Thom all these years has finally taken its toll


now thats the old Soba we love!!!

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Feb 15, 2021 09:36:34   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
skylane5sp wrote:
When did Puerto Rico become a state?
Washington is a 'blue' state and has twice the homeless of any of the states you mentioned. There are more homeless in Seattle than any of the states you mentioned.

California is the biggest 'blue' state and has FIFTEEN times the number of homeless of any of the states you mentioned.

I know it's difficult for you to accept, but you should start looking at facts.



Oh, you have all the answers... NOT!

Of the TOP TEN states regarding homelessness, 50% are Blue and 50% are Red.

• California (151,278)
• New York (92,091)
• Florida (28,328)
• Texas (25,848)
• Washington (21,577)
• Massachusetts (18,471)
• Oregon (15,876)
• Pennsylvania (13,199)
• Georgia (10,443)
• Ohio (10,345)

Funny how the MOST RED states of Texas, Florida and Ohio all have their fair share of homeless when people like you constantly try make it out to be a Democratic issue.

Just so you know, it's NOT. It's a human tragedy.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/homeless-population-by-state
Based on 2021 statistics.

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Feb 15, 2021 10:05:19   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
travelwp wrote:
Democrats see homelessness as an opportunity, knowing that the more poor there are, the more dependent they are on government and therefore, the more likely they will vote Democrat, giving Democrats more political power. This is why every city and state with a homelessness crisis has been a result of Democrat policies.

Thank you Democrats.


From a Republican. Utter nonsense

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Feb 15, 2021 11:01:37   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Oh, you have all the answers... NOT!

Of the TOP TEN states regarding homelessness, 50% are Blue and 50% are Red.

• California (151,278)
• New York (92,091)
• Florida (28,328)
• Texas (25,848)
• Washington (21,577)
• Massachusetts (18,471)
• Oregon (15,876)
• Pennsylvania (13,199)
• Georgia (10,443)
• Ohio (10,345)

Funny how the MOST RED states of Texas, Florida and Ohio all have their fair share of homeless when people like you constantly try make it out to be a Democratic issue.

Just so you know, it's NOT. It's a human tragedy.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/homeless-population-by-state
Based on 2021 statistics.
Oh, you have all the answers... NOT! br br Of the... (show quote)


Duh! Didn't you forget that key "per capita" part of your statistics? Perfect example of how figures don't lie but liars do figure.

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Feb 15, 2021 11:03:28   #
denverdon
 
I always find it interesting how easy it is to "throw somebody under the bus" until you have to get them out. Wouldn't it be more helpful to address the real problem and try to develop some constructive solutions. Criticism becomes very difficult when those that criticize are charged to seek solutions to solve the problems. A long time ago I learned that you should use statistics like a drunk used a lamppost, for support and not illumination. Let's really start working together, that's the only way things can really improve. Peace

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Feb 15, 2021 11:08:08   #
CWGordon
 
Cause and effect are not easily attached to the homeless issue.
Of course, we all know about opinions...

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Feb 15, 2021 11:19:47   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Duh! Didn't you forget that key "per capita" part of your statistics? Perfect example of how figures don't lie but liars do figure.


Duh! READ THE ARTICLE!

Then come back and tell me some more about "per capita".

Seems YOU didn't figure!

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Feb 15, 2021 11:33:16   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Duh! READ THE ARTICLE!

Then come back and tell me some more about "per capita".

Seems YOU didn't figure!


I did read the ref. Help me understand where it says your statistics given are "per capita". I must have missed it.

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Feb 15, 2021 11:37:48   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
wilpharm wrote:
now thats the old Soba we love!!!


However I still love my president.
In fact I love them so much that I will get Biden and Harris
tattooed on my buttocks
Biden on one cheek and Harris on the other, gosh I love them so

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Feb 15, 2021 11:44:56   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
thom w wrote:
I've read enough of his posts to not share your respect for him. I can't even imagine the ridicule I would encounter if I started every post here with "My wife, who is an attorney, says". Accounts here are free. She should get her own, and he should carry his own water.


Ever hear of the Prodigal Son? I may not agree with some of his political posts but I sure as hell can respect that he lends a hand to help others out of the abyss.

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