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Feb 15, 2021 06:40:03   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
SonyDoug wrote:
As the title says I want to make a panorama of a unique 200 foot long building front by moving the camera instead of panning from a central spot. The building is on a narrow street so the farthest away I can get is about 40 feet. It's also an hour drive from home.

I did the usual panning type panorama on this last year. The fish eye distortion is what I want to eliminate.

If I had a slider 200 feet long it'd be easy (I think).

Trying this at home on a close-by building gave mixed results. I moved the tripod enough to get overlap, but not being able to keep the camera axis exactly perpendicular to the building face caused some discontinuities in stitching. I'm using ICE, Microsoft's free stitching program.

My current thought is to mount the camera in my car, mark stop points on the street and move down the length of the building taking many shots ( I think I can drive straight for 200 feet). I thought my 50mm lens might be good, but maybe 70mm might be a better choice?

Any thoughts, recommendations, lens, etc?
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Dolly on rails...move as needed.

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Feb 15, 2021 07:44:08   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
bamfordr wrote:
Interesting idea. I’ve used Lightroom with my Canon 7D and my iPhone to stitch. Satisfactory (for me) elimination of fish eye in both cases.


Works for me too. Even fills in the irregularities if want want it to.

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Feb 15, 2021 07:47:42   #
bz178g
 
You can also try Microsoft Image Composite Editor, a free download that has worked for me when Photoshop doesn't.

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Feb 15, 2021 08:26:37   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
wjones8637 wrote:
I haven’t tried panoramas yet, but here are a few thoughts about alignment. The street is already narrow and the car mount would reduce it further. You already have something faintly resembling a rail with the curb or edge of the sidewalk. Place two legs of your tripod on the curb/edge for each shot, hopefully this will maintain a fairly constant distance from your subject. For the first shot carefully align the camera/lens axis perpendicular to the building and tightly lock down all of the tripod adjustments. I think a prime lens is a good idea eliminating chances of a zoom lens shifting. I think this will allow you to just move the tripod taking sequential exposures. I hope this helps.

Bill
I haven’t tried panoramas yet, but here are a few ... (show quote)


That sounds like a good idea. I would also suggest a prime lens of the normal focal length for the format, 50mm for Full Frame, 35mm for APS-C.

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Feb 15, 2021 08:51:36   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
SonyDoug wrote:
As the title says I want to make a panorama of a unique 200 foot long building front by moving the camera instead of panning from a central spot. The building is on a narrow street so the farthest away I can get is about 40 feet. It's also an hour drive from home.

I did the usual panning type panorama on this last year. The fish eye distortion is what I want to eliminate.

If I had a slider 200 feet long it'd be easy (I think).

Trying this at home on a close-by building gave mixed results. I moved the tripod enough to get overlap, but not being able to keep the camera axis exactly perpendicular to the building face caused some discontinuities in stitching. I'm using ICE, Microsoft's free stitching program.

My current thought is to mount the camera in my car, mark stop points on the street and move down the length of the building taking many shots ( I think I can drive straight for 200 feet). I thought my 50mm lens might be good, but maybe 70mm might be a better choice?

Any thoughts, recommendations, lens, etc?
As the title says I want to make a panorama of a u... (show quote)


Moving the camera to avoid distortion from panning the camera is to avoid parallax error or distortion, not fish-eye or curvilinear distortion. I do panoramas quite often but nothing like what you are proposing. Unless everything is ideal I find I have to play with my stitched image in Photoshop quite a bit to get what I want. I often have to use Skew adjustments to the image. For more typical panned panos to avoid parallax problems you must pivot the camera-lens system at the optical node of the lens, not the focal plane (or tripod mount). For a normal lens the node is where the iris is inside the lens. You sort of have to guess. Though I know there are methods to precisely locate it. So you will need a focusing rail, pano rail, or other rig to bring the pivot point forward under the optical node. Though for what you plan to do moving the camera is the best or only plan. A narrow street and building is a far cry from say a mountain lake with plants in the foreground as a pano. That other fellows Walk the curb line with the tripod sounds good to me. Or do you know anyone in the movie industry? Track and camera dolly.

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Feb 15, 2021 09:00:04   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
SonyDoug wrote:
As the title says I want to make a panorama of a unique 200 foot long building front by moving the camera instead of panning from a central spot. The building is on a narrow street so the farthest away I can get is about 40 feet. It's also an hour drive from home.

I did the usual panning type panorama on this last year. The fish eye distortion is what I want to eliminate.

If I had a slider 200 feet long it'd be easy (I think).

Trying this at home on a close-by building gave mixed results. I moved the tripod enough to get overlap, but not being able to keep the camera axis exactly perpendicular to the building face caused some discontinuities in stitching. I'm using ICE, Microsoft's free stitching program.

My current thought is to mount the camera in my car, mark stop points on the street and move down the length of the building taking many shots ( I think I can drive straight for 200 feet). I thought my 50mm lens might be good, but maybe 70mm might be a better choice?

Any thoughts, recommendations, lens, etc?
As the title says I want to make a panorama of a u... (show quote)


I'm using an older version of Photoshop, Ps CS6, and it seems to do good job at stitched panoramas. I have even gotten good ones when I had not planned to create a pano when I shot say a Mountain landscape but later found I had a lot of shots and with just enough overlap to make it work. Issue is mostly getting the exposures the same so the tones match. Should not be done with AE.

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Feb 15, 2021 09:10:02   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Ourspolair wrote:
Drone?


Yes, once he learns to fly it.

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Feb 15, 2021 10:07:53   #
lrm Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
Check website for HudsonHenry.com. His specialty is Panoramas, has videos and courses for same.

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Feb 15, 2021 10:25:00   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I've never done this but why not bring a friend and make a chalk snap line as reference. start in the middle and go left and right at same distance from center point on each side. Example from center go to right at 20 feet increments till the end, then go to to left same way. I imagine smaller increments would eliminate distortion

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Feb 15, 2021 10:45:04   #
SkyKing Loc: Thompson Ridge, NY
 
...Neewer tripod dolly and Neewer camera slide that attaches to tripod...and some planning...?

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Feb 15, 2021 10:50:26   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
A camera Slider long enough would be too expensive. I would just take straight on shots at predetermined increments and stitch them together in Photoshop. I've done it. It's practically guaranteed to work.

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Feb 15, 2021 10:54:17   #
ecommons
 
Use the idea of the curb, but since there is no curb, use spaced stakes and some strong rope stretched across. This will help maintain distance. Also before each shot, measure up from the road to the center of your lens to maintain height. Use the grid pattern on the edge of the roof line. Hopefully it's level

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Feb 15, 2021 11:35:07   #
POVDOV
 
I have done a few panos and I think you have a daunting task. Keeping the sensor parallel to the subject and vertically stable while driving on a rough potholed road is a big problem. PTgui is the premiere software for panoramas don't think they have a section on your problem but you might visit the sight and see. Good Luck

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Feb 15, 2021 11:40:12   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
SonyDoug wrote:
As the title says I want to make a panorama of a unique 200 foot long building front by moving the camera instead of panning from a central spot. The building is on a narrow street so the farthest away I can get is about 40 feet. It's also an hour drive from home.

I did the usual panning type panorama on this last year. The fish eye distortion is what I want to eliminate.

If I had a slider 200 feet long it'd be easy (I think).

Trying this at home on a close-by building gave mixed results. I moved the tripod enough to get overlap, but not being able to keep the camera axis exactly perpendicular to the building face caused some discontinuities in stitching. I'm using ICE, Microsoft's free stitching program.

My current thought is to mount the camera in my car, mark stop points on the street and move down the length of the building taking many shots ( I think I can drive straight for 200 feet). I thought my 50mm lens might be good, but maybe 70mm might be a better choice?

Any thoughts, recommendations, lens, etc?
As the title says I want to make a panorama of a u... (show quote)


Get one of these ....
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1147643-REG/vidpro_pd_1_dolly_for_video_photo_digital.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI08a456ns7gIVHCmzAB31swHNEAQYAiABEgJl5vD_BwE

Mount everything up and just roll it down the sidewalk to your designated shooting points.

Stan

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Feb 15, 2021 11:54:11   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Oh my goodness, all these mechanical solutions! I did a similar pano a few months back while in Laguna. Subject was art done on a long fence. I set up (meaning, standing in a repeatable pose, mid-stride, with camera locked and cocked) at the left end and snapped my first shot, then took maybe six paces and did it again, and again, and again. I held the camera in portrait orientation. I indexed myself with curbs built into the parking lot I was in next to the fence (and I did verify that my track was parallel). It, the method, worked like a champ. Make sure you can lock your upper body in position and get it done! BTW, mine turned out just fine and it took 5 minutes max...

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