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Feb 12, 2021 11:08:26   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
jonyrot wrote:
i updated the firmware in my D850 and have not had any trouble. I thought the CF express cards were a bit less expensive than the xqd because more manufacturers were supporting the cf express?


I have not found this to be the case in my market (North Texas).

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Feb 12, 2021 11:19:18   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
larryepage wrote:
I've updated my firmware, and everything still works fine. XQD performance is fine for me. I do not plan to move to the (more expensive) CFExpress cards until XQD availability becomes a problem.


I second.

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Feb 12, 2021 11:32:16   #
Manny Myers
 
Another Sony Beta Max!!!

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Feb 12, 2021 11:49:58   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
Bridges wrote:
These are about 4 x the price of an SD card. Any chance they will be going down in price? To not invest in a card or two plus a reader, is equivalent to having only a single SD card slot.


All of my Nikons are SD only but if I had one that uses an XQD card and it enables me to accomplish what I need I would be OK. The cost of the card is minimal compared to the thousands it costs for the camera and lenses. Personally I am glad my Nikons only use SD cards and I am quite satisfied with their performance.

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Feb 12, 2021 13:35:18   #
lautenk2
 
cameraf4 wrote:
Just a random question; Has anyone updated their Nikon that takes XQD cards to make it compatible with CF express Type-B cards? Is there any improvement in performance? Once the update is complete, is it OK to switch back-and-forth between the two formats without wigging out your camera?


Yes. So far I only own a couple XQD cards and a 128GB CFexpress card that I use in a Z7. All the updates to the Z7 firmware were quick, easy, and without any weird issues including the update to allow CFexpress cards. The camera doesn't seem to work any differently (no noticeable speed difference anyway) with any of the cards I've used. I don't even know if there's a way to tell which type of card one has in the camera short of removing it to read the label.

When you use an XQD card or a CFexpress card in a card reader, you can notice the difference is speed. XQD cards are pretty fast (compared to SD UHS-I) and the CFexpress cards are like 4 times faster than XQD.

The only compatibility issue I've noticed, and it's not much of an issue, is that
1. XQD card readers on the market before CFexpress was available don't read CFexpress cards, no surprise since CFexpress is newer
2. but most CFexpress card readers don't read XQD cards.
Some card readers can work with both card types, but you can't assume that's the case. So, pay attention to that when purchasing a card reader. I have the Sony MRW-G1 and I tested it with both card types, it works.

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Feb 12, 2021 14:41:12   #
rkaminer Loc: New York, NY
 
Does the Nikon Z camera have a firmware update for the CF express cards? If soe did anyone make the switch? I like the XQD cards but it's nice to have options.

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Feb 12, 2021 17:41:33   #
cedymock Loc: Irmo, South Carolina
 
rkaminer wrote:
Does the Nikon Z camera have a firmware update for the CF express cards? If soe did anyone make the switch? I like the XQD cards but it's nice to have options.


Link to the Z's enhancements.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/mirrorless-cameras/firmware-three-point-zero.page

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Feb 12, 2021 21:26:19   #
rkaminer Loc: New York, NY
 


Thank you, I will upgrade the firmware.

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Feb 13, 2021 00:51:31   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Bridges wrote:
These are about 4 x the price of an SD card. Any chance they will be going down in price? To not invest in a card or two plus a reader, is equivalent to having only a single SD card slot.


I doubt they will come down in price. Monopoly market.

But I recently got a 64 CFexpress for the price I paid for the 32 Xqd a year ago. Then had to spend additional $30 for adapter to my PC. Could use the cable to camera but it is much slower.

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Feb 13, 2021 00:52:19   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
rkaminer wrote:
Does the Nikon Z camera have a firmware update for the CF express cards? If soe did anyone make the switch? I like the XQD cards but it's nice to have options.


Yes. Works fine.

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Feb 13, 2021 02:23:44   #
rkaminer Loc: New York, NY
 
IDguy wrote:
Yes. Works fine.


Thanks, I upgraded the firmware to 3.20 from 3.10. When I looked at the various releases of firmware my camera already had the the firmware for the CFexpress card compatibility; I did not know that. I am happy with the XQD card anyway, but does the CF card actually improve the writing speed? From what I read so far most people don’t see a difference. Apparently the XQD card reader is not compatible and would have to purchase another reader to use the CFexpress cards. Why bother, the cost of these two type of cards are about the same for equal storage

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Feb 13, 2021 03:09:41   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
lautenk2 wrote:
Yes. So far I only own a couple XQD cards and a 128GB CFexpress card that I use in a Z7. All the updates to the Z7 firmware were quick, easy, and without any weird issues including the update to allow CFexpress cards. The camera doesn't seem to work any differently (no noticeable speed difference anyway) with any of the cards I've used. I don't even know if there's a way to tell which type of card one has in the camera short of removing it to read the label.

When you use an XQD card or a CFexpress card in a card reader, you can notice the difference is speed. XQD cards are pretty fast (compared to SD UHS-I) and the CFexpress cards are like 4 times faster than XQD.

The only compatibility issue I've noticed, and it's not much of an issue, is that
1. XQD card readers on the market before CFexpress was available don't read CFexpress cards, no surprise since CFexpress is newer
2. but most CFexpress card readers don't read XQD cards.
Some card readers can work with both card types, but you can't assume that's the case. So, pay attention to that when purchasing a card reader. I have the Sony MRW-G1 and I tested it with both card types, it works.
Yes. So far I only own a couple XQD cards and a 12... (show quote)


Thanks for the info, lautenk. Wow, 4x faster than XQD! Ain't technology grand! Except now, of course, I would have to buy yet another card reader. I see Amazon sells the Sony MRW-G1 for $99.00. And I used to think that photography was an expensive hobby back in the 80s. Who knew!!

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Feb 13, 2021 08:39:03   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
cameraf4 wrote:
Thanks for the info, lautenk. Wow, 4x faster than XQD! Ain't technology grand! Except now, of course, I would have to buy yet another card reader. I see Amazon sells the Sony MRW-G1 for $99.00. And I used to think that photography was an expensive hobby back in the 80s. Who knew!!


That’s why I like 16gb SD cards and smaller. I still use 1gb and 2 gb cards for my D50!!

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Feb 13, 2021 08:45:20   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
ronpier wrote:
That’s why I like 16gb SD cards and smaller. I still use 1gb and 2 gb cards for my D50!!


Good point, ron. But my 46MP D850 eats 1 gig cards for breakfast.

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Feb 13, 2021 10:31:12   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
CF Express will be replacing the XQD. Currently they are a little more expensive than the XQD. With free software updates for your camera, they work in the XQD slots perfectly. They are also a little faster, great buffering for large bursts.

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