Canon R5 and Image Stabilization
Feb 5, 2021 13:34:22 #
Hi All. I currently have a Canon T7i and am generally happy with it. I have a few EF-S lenses and a EF 50mm/1.8 and a EF 70-300mm f4/5.6 IS USM. I am mostly interested in wildlife photography. I am disable and will mostly be shooting from a wheelchair or scooter. My issues is that my hands are not the steadiest anymore (back in my youth I was an expert marksman so I have a high standard.) I am considering getting a Canon R5, an EF-R adapter and a 2x teleconverter, and then waiting a while on new lenses as that would be a big hit by itself. How much do you think that I would benefit from the in camera IS from the R5? All input is appreciated but I would especially like input from people who have switched to the R5.
I am getting used to using a monopod from the scooter. I have a fairly decent tripod but since I am mostly looking at potentially moving wildlife it is not the easiest thing to use from the scooter.
I am getting used to using a monopod from the scooter. I have a fairly decent tripod but since I am mostly looking at potentially moving wildlife it is not the easiest thing to use from the scooter.
Feb 5, 2021 13:48:53 #
You're not going to get a significant difference from the IBIS (in-body IS) of the EOS R5 body vs the IS on the lenses. A 2x converter isn't going to add anything except to compatible lenses which are not your current EF/EF-S lenses. The IBIS will help for the non IS lenses, where 50mm is far too short for wildlife to begin with. This sounds more like a GAS exercise than a tangible change.
Regarding impactful changes, you might want to look at the EOS R5 or R6 as a vehicle to using either of the new RF 600mm or RF 800mm lenses. They have a tripod / monopod mount and the IBIS support from the body. Are you editing your images? If no, the same image on the R6 at 20MP will be the same image from the R5 at 45MP. The EF to R adapter maintains all your existing Canon lenses too on the mirrorless.
So, changing the body will make a difference in your described situation if you also change / add lenses that specifically leverage the new mirrorless body.
Regarding impactful changes, you might want to look at the EOS R5 or R6 as a vehicle to using either of the new RF 600mm or RF 800mm lenses. They have a tripod / monopod mount and the IBIS support from the body. Are you editing your images? If no, the same image on the R6 at 20MP will be the same image from the R5 at 45MP. The EF to R adapter maintains all your existing Canon lenses too on the mirrorless.
So, changing the body will make a difference in your described situation if you also change / add lenses that specifically leverage the new mirrorless body.
Feb 5, 2021 14:03:49 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
You're not going to get a significant difference f... (show quote)
I am using the EOS R with the adapter and mostly EF lenses. All of the lenses ( a mixture of Canon, Sigma Art and Tamron zooms) all perform the same or better. I was looking at needing to sell my EF mount lenses but not anymore. The 30mp sensor is great. I don't do birds because I am disabled and no longer have the strength to shoot with heavy zooms.
I might rent the new 600/800mm f/11 to check them out. Many people might snub their noses at F/11, however shooting a heavy EF lens at F/11 vs a RF mount F/11 are really different because of improvements in both the camera internals and lens optics, however this is probably not a good choice for nighttime shooting
Feb 5, 2021 14:36:59 #
gouldopfl wrote:
I am using the EOS R with the adapter and mostly E... (show quote)
Both lenses are IS enabled too. I wonder if Canon is going to continue with both IBIS and non IBIS R bodies?
Feb 5, 2021 15:30:28 #
I can't speak for the IBIS, but I would point out that you would be going from a crop sensor (APS-C) camera (T7i) to a full frame camera.
You lose magnification by a factor of 1:1.6 which is counter to the needs of one looking to photograph wildlife.
In addition, using EF-S lenses on an R5 loses more than half the pixels, but your EF lenses would work normally.
Canon is rumored soon to be announcing an APS-C mirrorless (perhaps R7) which would have the same magnification as your T7i.
You lose magnification by a factor of 1:1.6 which is counter to the needs of one looking to photograph wildlife.
In addition, using EF-S lenses on an R5 loses more than half the pixels, but your EF lenses would work normally.
Canon is rumored soon to be announcing an APS-C mirrorless (perhaps R7) which would have the same magnification as your T7i.
Feb 5, 2021 18:14:09 #
Thanks for the feedback from you all. I think I can get get rid of my mild case of GAS for a year and see what happens with a potential R7. I checked out the rumors and the rumored R7 may meet my needs better depending on exactly what it looks like.
Feb 6, 2021 05:35:46 #
Feb 6, 2021 08:05:02 #
JonathanChemE wrote:
Hi All. I currently have a Canon T7i and am gener... (show quote)
I have the R5 with the adapter and EF 100-400mm II with 1.4x. Very pleased with IS! And if you like to shoot say birds in flight, the eye AF is bloody outstanding. Kick the shutter to 2000 or so and less concerns about your steadyness. I did get RF 24-105MM and find I can hand hold to some unbelievable slow shutters(not birds but low light landscape with 100 ISO) . To say the least a very satisfied R5 user. The 45 MP is very handy for small birds that need big crops. CRaw is actually fine for most pics unless you plan to print very large pics.
Good luck with whatever you choose
Feb 6, 2021 08:27:36 #
tcthome
Loc: NJ
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I might rent the new 600/800mm f/11 to check them out. Many people might snub their noses at F/11, however shooting a heavy EF lens at F/11 vs a RF mount F/11 are really different because of improvements in both the camera internals and lens optics, however this is probably not a good choice for nighttime shooting[/quote]
I get why your saying F11 with image back round in mind, Also, the ISO performance of the new cameras coming out today allows to shoot at much higher ISO's. Also I wouldn't count the new Canon R5/R6 cameras out for night photography until you read a review or try one. Someone here who owns one might chime in using it for night/low light photography, unless your talking F11 for night time.
I might rent the new 600/800mm f/11 to check them out. Many people might snub their noses at F/11, however shooting a heavy EF lens at F/11 vs a RF mount F/11 are really different because of improvements in both the camera internals and lens optics, however this is probably not a good choice for nighttime shooting[/quote]
I get why your saying F11 with image back round in mind, Also, the ISO performance of the new cameras coming out today allows to shoot at much higher ISO's. Also I wouldn't count the new Canon R5/R6 cameras out for night photography until you read a review or try one. Someone here who owns one might chime in using it for night/low light photography, unless your talking F11 for night time.
Feb 6, 2021 10:59:20 #
IBIS will give you better stability no matter which lens you use. With the R5 and the RF 24-105 I can brace against my body and get 1sec. exposures if I am very careful.
Feb 6, 2021 11:42:19 #
I believe the ef-s lenses will mount, but the camera will automatically switch to crop mode. At least on my RP that is how it works, so you lose roughly two thirds of your pixels. Though you have a lot to start with so it might not always sting too much.
Feb 6, 2021 13:24:47 #
hjkarten
Loc: San Diego, California
I have a moderately bad tremor from Parkinson's, and find that I can get sharp photos of birds by shooting with a tripod and a remote cable release, combined with high shutter speeds. If you are shooting with a tripod and shutter speeds of ca. 1/2000, it is recommended that you turn off the IBIS.
Hang in there. It's worth the effort as a morale booster.
Hang in there. It's worth the effort as a morale booster.
Feb 6, 2021 23:43:41 #
I am an older guy(78) and recently purchases a R5 with the RF 100-500mm lens. Previously I was using a Canon Mark4 with a Tamron 150-600 lens for wildlife.. Due to the weight I had to use a tripod to get decent photos. With the new combo which I have used for 3wks I no longer have to use a tripod as this combo is much lighter and is giving me really good results. I know you said you had some disability but I highly recommend the R5 with the 100-500 combination.
Feb 7, 2021 06:38:31 #
I am a fellow Chem Eng. I have been using the R5 and RF800 lens with a monopod for the last month. My subjects are mainly birds. The AF with eye detection is providing a great number of keepers. The continuous high speed shutter is really nice when birds begin to fly. The f11 is not an issue when used in good light. You can position yourself to get good catch light in the eyes. The in body 1.6 crop is also handy for still subjects a long way away as it helps with auto focus. I am so impressed with the RF800 that I have not put any of my L glass on the R5 yet.
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