Effate
Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
Point taken. My original argument was no one should be receiving any taxpayer dollars to increase their income stream a dime beyond what it was Jan 1, 2020. I know some will argue “economists” say go big but we all know economists and scientists have political ideologies like most do and you can find one to argue any point in any direction.
clickety wrote:
If you are retired, there was no economic impact from the pandemic. If you were unemployed or otherwise living at the public trough, there was no economic hardship from this pandemic. For many there is no justification for this payment!
I know nothing about you or your situation but I can’t understand why Congress insists on squandering money we obviously don’t have on millions of people who have had no changes in their income and certainly don’t deserve Covid relief.
Others did lose their income source, their families are struggling, kids are hungry. Why are they not the recipients? For others like myself (retired) the best place for this payment is the local food pantry.
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The IRS hss no immediate way of determining who is experiencing an economic hardship and who is not. They also cannot determine who had a change in income from prior year tax returns. The Federal Government did the best they could to try to get the economy going again.
If you don't want your check give it to the local pantry and don't worry about any one else.
rbest77701 wrote:
Direct Deposit. The only way to go. The only people I have heard of having issues with either check were all physical checks.
Well, my wife and I both received direct deposit last time. This time she got a check and I haven’t received anything. Now you’ve heard of one.🤪
clickety wrote:
If you are retired, there was no economic impact from the pandemic. If you were unemployed or otherwise living at the public trough, there was no economic hardship from this pandemic. For many there is no justification for this payment!
I know nothing about you or your situation but I can’t understand why Congress insists on squandering money we obviously don’t have on millions of people who have had no changes in their income and certainly don’t deserve Covid relief.
Others did lose their income source, their families are struggling, kids are hungry. Why are they not the recipients? For others like myself (retired) the best place for this payment is the local food pantry.
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Glad to hear that you put your payment to good use. As for people sharing with their families: sure, their family members may have received the stimulus payments also but I don’t see anything wrong with parents sharing with their families.
As for retired people, I know many who used their payments as donations or to support local restaurants that were limited to takeout or curbside pickup.
cahale wrote:
Yes, but I'm not sure what $375.25 is supposed to stimulate. I don't feel stimulated by it.
Did you get an erection from deposit in the amount of $650. That was stimulating. I held onto the erection for some time.!!!
saichiez wrote:
Did you get an erection from deposit in the amount of $650. That was stimulating. I held onto the erection for some time.!!!
You guys are truly funny!!👍👍🤪
Mark
joanloy wrote:
The IRS hss no immediate way of determining who is experiencing an economic hardship and who is not. They also cannot determine who had a change in income from prior year tax returns. The Federal Government did the best they could to try to get the economy going again.
If you don't want your check give it to the local pantry and don't worry about any one else.
I’m not worry about “anyone else” thank you. I’m just highlighting the lunacy of this. This is about Covid caused changes /reduction in income, and unemployment filings should tell them all they need to know. Ironically the same members of Congress that insisted these payments should be larger and to all have always rejected the idea of tax cuts and “trickle down” economic policies which are designed to improve the economy, provide jobs, and reduce the dependence on government hand outs. Sending borrowed money to people who have not experienced Covid related hardship doesn’t accomplish any of the above and falls into my definition of lunacy.
clickety wrote:
I’m not worry about “anyone else” thank you. I’m just highlighting the lunacy of this. This is about Covid caused changes /reduction in income, and unemployment filings should tell them all they need to know. Ironically the same members of Congress that insisted these payments should be larger and to all have always rejected the idea of tax cuts and “trickle down” economic policies which are designed to improve the economy, provide jobs, and reduce the dependence on government hand outs. Sending borrowed money to people who have not experienced Covid related hardship doesn’t accomplish any of the above and falls into my definition of lunacy.
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I don't think you have a clue. The IRS doesn't have access to uneployment records. And, people are still filing for unemployment due to recent job loss. I'm glad you don't appear to be suffering a financial hardship and neither am I, but I have empathy for those who are. Even though eviction have been stopped in some area, landlords are cutting off utilities to cause evictions. People can' feed their children. Businesses are permanently closing due to the shut down which creates more jobloss and hardships. PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING IN EVERY STATE OF THE UNION.
some people made out on this ..i have a girlfriend who has a son that was only earning 10 bucks a hr and got layed off ..his unemployment check was for 200 and he was getting the 600. a week extra so he went from clearing 300 a week to making 800. a week and not having to pay his rent and still said he didnt have money
If you didn't receive the $600 check in January and you should meaning that as a single filer you didn't earn more then $75,000 or a couple more then $150,000 then you will be allowed to enter it on your income tax filing and receive it as a tax refund.
joanloy wrote:
I don't think you have a clue. The IRS doesn't have access to uneployment records. And, people are still filing for unemployment due to recent job loss. I'm glad you don't appear to be suffering a financial hardship and neither am I, but I have empathy for those who are. Even though eviction have been stopped in some area, landlords are cutting off utilities to cause evictions. People can' feed their children. Businesses are permanently closing due to the shut down which creates more jobloss and hardships. PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING IN EVERY STATE OF THE UNION.
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“Don’t have a clue “? Maybe a little harsh and judgemental?
Yes, I agree that too many are suffering hardships caused by the virus. All I’m saying is it would seem to make more sense to give 1200 or even more to those suffering than giving 600 to everyone indiscriminately. If the IRS can’t find out, there are others that can, certainly there’s a better way.
I thought we were discussing problems with the approved distributions here rather than whether or not the incentives themselves are appropriate or not. Frankly, if I qualify for the payment and they have already approved the payment, then I think it should be made in a timely manner and there should be some way to follow up when it isn't instead of the obvious avoidance behavior we are now seeing.
As for the need and overall approval of these payments, I've been against these handouts from the start. Frankly, they are irresponsible if not truly dangerous! They are just printing more money to cover the costs and we're all going to lose when the dollar is devalued because of it. Tax and spend politics and overspending is bad enough, but simply printing more money so they can give it away is going to crash the entire economy at some point in the near future. How's that for stimulus?
I also agree with previous posters that this money should be going to those that really lost their livelihoods due to Covid, but our government can't even seem to issue payments to those that filed their taxes or even got their previous incentive payment. In light of this, how can we ever have faith in them to actually help those with a real need. I think we are truly headed for real disaster and Covid is just a small part of it.
clickety wrote:
“Don’t have a clue “? Maybe a little harsh and judgemental?
Yes, I agree that too many are suffering hardships caused by the virus. All I’m saying is it would seem to make more sense to give 1200 or even more to those suffering than giving 600 to everyone indiscriminately. If the IRS can’t find out, there are others that can, certainly there’s a better way.
My last response. This one ought to make you real happy -- The first stimulus package law was taken to court and prisoners received the $1200 and the $600.
joanloy wrote:
My last response. This one ought to make you real happy -- The first stimulus package law was taken to court and prisoners received the $1200 and the $600.
Why would you think that that irrelevant ‘red herring’ (even if true) would make me happy?
I fully agree that should be your last response. If you’ve abandoned logic there can be no further discussion.
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