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Liars Won’t Lawyer for #45?
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Jan 31, 2021 10:58:49   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
Given a choice of lying for Trump in court or quitting his defense team... #45 is now defenseless.

He doesn’t need a lawyer for an Insanity Defense, does he? 😄

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Jan 31, 2021 11:11:04   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Given a choice of lying for Trump in court or quitting his defense team... #45 is now defenseless.

He doesn’t need a lawyer for an Insanity Defense, does he? 😄


Do you agree with these lawyers who don't think Trump is entitled to the 6th Amendment?

And I see you are a Biden follower. That's great.

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Jan 31, 2021 13:14:38   #
National Park
 
This is not a criminal proceeding, so 6th amendment rights do not attach. In any event, Trump is not being denied an attorney; his attorneys left because they correctly refused to argue a "big lie" defense that has no merit. Don't worry, Trump will find some slimy attorneys to represent him and his meritless defense. Maybe we will see farting Rudy again with his melting hair dye.

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Jan 31, 2021 13:16:30   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
As I posted on another thread, check out the first story...

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report

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Jan 31, 2021 13:18:49   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Do you agree with these lawyers who don't think Trump is entitled to the 6th Amendment?

And I see you are a Biden follower. That's great.


This is not a criminal trial. Why is that so hard ton understand that it must be repeated- over and over .

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Jan 31, 2021 13:23:19   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Given the choice between arguing a legitimate defense...and the stolen election defense...the smart ones are bailing.

It's pretty simple.

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Jan 31, 2021 16:20:46   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
mwalsh wrote:
Given the choice between arguing a legitimate defense...and the stolen election defense...the smart ones are bailing.

It's pretty simple.


Stiffing Rudy for his $22,000 a day fees can't have helped to lure in new blood.

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Feb 1, 2021 09:45:50   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
All the blabbing ignores that not enough votes exist in the Senate to convict the former President.

As well, Chief Justice Roberts has declined to preside over the Senate trial -- his reasoning we do not know for sure, but it may have something to do with the Senate trial of a former President having no constitutional grounds.

Then we have the flimsiness of the Article of Impeachment stating "incitement of insurrection." In contradiction, we have the speech of the former President: This is what the President told attendees at his D.C. rally before a contingent of it later rioted and stormed the Capitol building:

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

(found at: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-told-supporters-stormed-capitol-hill/story?id=75110558)

His urging lies within the constitutional right of the citizenry to assemble peaceably.

Certainly by now, we in the audience observe that the leftists and their factotums have blinded themselves by their acute political hatred of the former President. In turn, they cannot see or think straight about anything the President says or does, regardless of merit.

We shall see how it goes.

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Feb 1, 2021 10:05:12   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
DennyT wrote:
This is not a criminal trial. Why is that so hard ton understand that it must be repeated- over and over .


My mistake, thanks. It is purely Political Theatrical Show with the goal of depriving Trump of ever running for office again. How could I be so blind?

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Feb 1, 2021 10:06:19   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fotoartist wrote:
My mistake, thanks. It is purely Political Theatrical Show with the goal of depriving Trump of ever running for office again. How could I be so blind?


That's because you are not very bright.

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Feb 1, 2021 10:29:50   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
anotherview wrote:


As well, Chief Justice Roberts has declined to preside over the Senate trial -- his reasoning we do not know for sure, but it may have something to do with the Senate trial of a former President having no constitutional grounds.





Far more likely is that the Constitutional grounds have not been tested and if Trump were to be impeached, it will wind up at SCOTUS and if Roberts were to reside at impeachment, we would later have to recuse when and if it reached the Court.

Don't read your own bias into the motives of anyone else, let alone a Chief Justice. The Constitutional scholarship on this is not settled, in spite of your awesome opinion. However, you should know that there is precedent fo a post-office impeachment. Whether it applies here is yet to be determined.

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Feb 1, 2021 12:32:45   #
Reddog Loc: Southern Calif
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Do you agree with these lawyers who don't think Trump is entitled to the 6th Amendment?

And I see you are a Biden follower. That's great.


You need to read the 6th amendment but I see are a trump follower so you won’t!😩

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Feb 1, 2021 12:48:00   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Reddog wrote:
You need to read the 6th amendment but I see are a trump follower so you won’t!😩


I did.

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense."

What's your point?

You know, while the impeachment trial is not a criminal proceeding the principal of due process with a lawyer is embedded in American society. That is the overriding principle.

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Feb 1, 2021 13:16:59   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Do you agree with these lawyers who don't think Trump is entitled to the 6th Amendment?

And I see you are a Biden follower. That's great.


The Sixth Amendment guarantees the rights of criminal defendants, including the right to a public trial without unnecessary delay, the right to a lawyer, the right to an impartial jury, and the right to know who your accusers are and the nature of the charges and evidence against you.

He can always get a Public Defender, since he's having difficulties keeping his own lawyers. LOL

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Feb 1, 2021 13:19:46   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Do you agree with these lawyers who don't think Trump is entitled to the 6th Amendment?

And I see you are a Biden follower. That's great.


Trump never pays his bills. It’s my understanding that several of the lawyers wanted some money up front.

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