Just my take major trending in Photography sales and reselling of camera's and lens.
Jan 31, 2021 11:49:35 #
HRBIEL wrote:
Hey, Leroy Jethro Gibbs still uses a flip phone... just sayin!
My wife still prefers it, even though she was "forced" into replacing it.
Hello, chat, goodby is all we really need.
And that's just because it comes in handy.
Jan 31, 2021 12:04:35 #
jbk224
Loc: Long Island, NY
HRBIEL wrote:
Hey, Leroy Jethro Gibbs still uses a flip phone... just sayin!
Even LJG has a team around him with the latest and greatest tech resources-- that he depends upon. Nothing exists in a vacuum----only dirt.
Jan 31, 2021 12:14:29 #
Longshadow wrote:
What eventually becomes "old" technology, no one will want.
Want a flip-phone instead of your smart phone?
Want a flip-phone instead of your smart phone?
We live in rural Oregon where our cell phones rely on a strong WiFi connection for cell coverage. So, I actually would welcome the “old school” house wall phone. Yes, We have our “smart phones”, but they are not smart enough to know how to work when there’s a power outage.
Jan 31, 2021 12:21:47 #
Bfree2 wrote:
We live in rural Oregon where our cell phones rely on a strong WiFi connection for cell coverage. So, I actually would welcome the “old school” house wall phone. Yes, We have our “smart phones”, but they are not smart enough to know how to work when there’s a power outage.
Land lines are powered by the Central Office, by battery.
We still have our land line.
Jan 31, 2021 12:42:31 #
Longshadow wrote:
What eventually becomes "old" technology, no one will want.
Want a flip-phone instead of your smart phone?
Want a flip-phone instead of your smart phone?
Yes, I do! But they are harder and harder to find. The last time I bought one (flip phone) I told the guy I wanted one without a "camera". He looked at me like I had three eyes. Not interested in a smart phone. I have plenty of time to interact in the modern world when I sit in front of my computer, not out and about with a "smart" gizmo. I carry a TG-6 with me at all times for a quick shot for those rare times when I'm not carrying a DSLR. Yes, I used to walk among the dinosaurs. And, oh, what a fine time I had!
Jan 31, 2021 12:54:57 #
Retired CPO wrote:
Yes, I do! But they are harder and harder to find.... (show quote)
Support for them will probably be going away at some point. Old technology.
There is only a few things that I use on my phone a lot:
- Grocery (shopping) list
- Phone
- Messaging
- Camera
- Google Maps (when traveling - or the tablet)
- Sky Map
Other apps are only a few times a year.
Jan 31, 2021 12:55:55 #
RGreenway wrote:
OK, but a 100% mark up over what they offer for used gear seems like more than it was in the past. Some resellers are happy with a 25% mark up. That seems to be the issue for me, coupled with perhaps less demand for camera gear in general makes used gear less valuable.
It’s all about Economics 101 - Supply vs. Demand. Just like the stock market. If more people want to sell, then the buy price goes down. In this pandemic world we’re all living in right now, I’m not surprised to see folks offloading their used gear to make a little money, and also because they have a lot of time on their hands.
And yes, also because of technology changes and the younger crowd by and large standardizing on phone cameras. Heck, people are constantly trading up their smartphones for the latest and greatest camera ... including me.
You also get very little money when you trade up your smartphone.Jan 31, 2021 13:22:13 #
This is very true. I regularly shoot with a 54 year old body, a 49 year old lens, coupled to a 17 year old sensor. I get excellent results.
--Bob
--Bob
CHG_CANON wrote:
If your camera has 24MP, who cares how old it is? And, the camera never cares how old your lens is.
Jan 31, 2021 13:44:36 #
Selling is far more important to a business than buying for selling is where the profit, which is the lifeblood, of the business comes from. Buying inventory is a risk based upon many factors with turnover of course being one of them.
A "resale" business walks a fine line between what price the customer will pay for a used item vs. buying the same item new. A manufacturer views their products in terms of production runs and distribution outlets which often times are many helping move their products. A resale business has a limited inventory of a specific item and it hopes that there is someone out there wanting to buy it elsewise it sits on a shelf and becomes a cost to the business rather than a profit to the business.
Ultimately the resale business is a buyer's market. "Here's what I will give you for your item based on what I believe it will cost me out of pocket until...and if...I can sell it to someone else." Also keep in mind that camera gear is highly "brand specific". I may see your amazing lens on KEH and have the cash in hand to buy it...except it is not the same brand as my camera so it won't work for me. That's why it is about a 30% buy price market and a 70% sell price market for them. Also, lenses tend to be timeless where as cameras tend to be outdated and now more quickly than ever before.
A "resale" business walks a fine line between what price the customer will pay for a used item vs. buying the same item new. A manufacturer views their products in terms of production runs and distribution outlets which often times are many helping move their products. A resale business has a limited inventory of a specific item and it hopes that there is someone out there wanting to buy it elsewise it sits on a shelf and becomes a cost to the business rather than a profit to the business.
Ultimately the resale business is a buyer's market. "Here's what I will give you for your item based on what I believe it will cost me out of pocket until...and if...I can sell it to someone else." Also keep in mind that camera gear is highly "brand specific". I may see your amazing lens on KEH and have the cash in hand to buy it...except it is not the same brand as my camera so it won't work for me. That's why it is about a 30% buy price market and a 70% sell price market for them. Also, lenses tend to be timeless where as cameras tend to be outdated and now more quickly than ever before.
Jan 31, 2021 14:25:40 #
Wyantry
Loc: SW Colorado
CHG_CANON wrote:
”. . . the camera never cares how old your lens is.”
Except for uncoated lenses . . . .
Then the PICTURE does.
Jan 31, 2021 15:21:24 #
Vincejr
Loc: Northern Kentucky
Yes film changed but could always be used in your camera. I have cameras over 30 years old and can still use them.
Jan 31, 2021 15:27:40 #
cahale
Loc: San Angelo, TX
Longshadow wrote:
What eventually becomes "old" technology, no one will want.
Want a flip-phone instead of your smart phone?
Want a flip-phone instead of your smart phone?
You better believe it. I don't even "want" the flip phone. It's just necessary.
Jan 31, 2021 17:17:45 #
Tomcat5133
Loc: Gladwyne PA
CHG_CANON wrote:
If your camera has 24MP, who cares how old it is? And, the camera never cares how old your lens is.
Thanks CHG that comment helped me feel good. You always understand things.
Jan 31, 2021 17:45:25 #
Tomcat5133
Loc: Gladwyne PA
HRBIEL wrote:
Hey, Leroy Jethro Gibbs still uses a flip phone... just sayin!
Jan 31, 2021 17:53:30 #
Tomcat5133
Loc: Gladwyne PA
Thomas902 wrote:
Tomcat5133 like so many other UHH's your focus is ... (show quote)
I will be a gentlemen Thomas. We have the same names.
I honestly don't even know exactly what troll means. If you look carefully you will see the
contributions I have made to this forum. Many experienced here thanked me for my revealing
the creativity of micro contrasting. Which is the magic of some very famous camera
s and lens. I posted a shot I took when I had my first camera Pentax Spotmatic.
I buy good cameras and lens and have shot over 100 videos with just a doc Sony camcorder.
Look me up on vimeo. Look at my website neweyesproductions. I have 100's of awards for
graphics working in ad agencies and my own companies. I have produced many Corp. shows
for major companies with many celebrities and American hero's. Ronald Reagen being one.
I never looked back when buying cameras like maybe 20 Nikon's. I managed my companies
finances myself and sold my last 43 foot sailboat on the Chesy.
Accusing me of toxic venom? I have worked in charities for years. Disabled children, homeless
in Philadelphia. First responders. Battered woman etc. I have posted here and got good
responses. This kind of reminds me of what we are seeing in our country. Anger. Never
saw that in anyone of your posts. I am decidedly not a photographer?
Now to try and get you to understand. I moved to Fuji for the creative and technicals.
And I was sharing my thoughts about the marketplace for any of us which kind of
saddened me. And I said no problem I will just wanted to get new creative tools.
I taught as a celebrity guest seminar for years at the Art Institute. It was a
3 hour seminar on Visual communication once a week.
So I hope you will understand at 77 years old I was just bringing a realistic
update for folks thinking of buying or changing gear. Stay safe. Be well.
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