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Jan 28, 2021 15:10:50   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
If it is a good idea to impeach and try former presidents, what about former Democrat presidents when Republicans get the majority? Think about it and let’s do what is best for the country.

First up, what about Obama's "war on cops." Seeing as Democrats say that Trump's rhetoric 'incited an insurrection' at the U.S. Capitol as the primary reason for their second bogus impeachment, it's more than fair to say that Obama should be equally held accountable for his rhetoric as president which inspired a war on cops, resulting in a spike in assassinations of police officers nationwide. Among those who were lost in the attacks were five Dallas police officers murdered in an attack in 2016.

The second-most important article of impeachment against Obama should be the IRS targeting scandal, which former IRS official Lois Lerner confirmed actually happened. Not only were tea party groups improperly targeted, according to documents obtained by Judicial Watch, but the whole scheme was also orchestrated out of Washington, D.C. There was also evidence of White House involvement. Then-IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman was at the White House at least 157 times while the IRS was targeting tea party groups.

Third, Obama agreed to "illegal treaties" without the consent of the Senate, the Iran Nuclear Deal and Paris Climate Accords, both of which met the requirements for an international treaty. However, Obama refused to submit them to the Senate presumably because he knew they would be shot down. So he simply implemented in apparent violation of the Constitution.

Fourth, Obama violated at least four federal laws back in 2010, for offering then-congressman Joe Sestak, D-Pa., a job in his administration in exchange for not challenging Arlen Specter for the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate. Bribery is a crime, and Barack Obama committed it. At the same time, Obama illegally fired Gerald Walpin, the inspector general for the Corporation for National and Community Service after Walpin investigated Obama's friend and donor, Kevin Johnson.

Fifth, in 2014, 47 of 73 inspectors general wrote to Congress charging "the Obama administration was obstructing investigations by not giving them full access to the information they need." Such systemic corruption would have been considered an impeachable [offense] for almost any other president.

Sixth, Obama spied on the news media, demanding two months of phone records from some Associated Press reporters and editors. Reporter James Rosen of Fox News, even was threatened with jail time when the Obama Justice Department labeled him a 'co-conspirator' with one of his sources.

Seventh, Obama's "illegal war in Libya" started by bypassing Congress's authority. The Benghazi attack cover-up was next. Four Americans, including the ambassador, were murdered in Benghazi in an orchestrated terror assault. But Obama's administration, instead "called it a spontaneous demonstration" in order "to hide the fact it was a pre-planned terror attack and that they were grossly unprepared."

The Obama administration, including then-Vice President Joe Biden, "obstructed" an investigation by Congress. Officials then jailed an innocent man, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, whose film "The Innocence of Muslims" was pulled out of anonymity and blamed for the attack.

And finally, there's Obamagate and the attempted coup on a duly elected president.

The spying on President Trump’s campaign alone [that is] is chock full of abuses of power and illegal activity. The Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign based on a bogus dossier funded by the Hillary campaign. The Obama administration used the dossier, that they knew was Russian disinformation ginned up to distract from Hillary’s email scandal, to obtain a FISA warrant even though they never had any empirical evidence of collusion. Further, evidence that Russia actually preferred Hillary over Trump was allegedly suppressed by Obama’s CIA Director John Brennan. The Obamagate scandal runs deep, wide, and dirty.

And Obama was aware that his administration was spying on Trump’s incoming National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, whose communications with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were illegally leaked to the media to bolster the bogus claims of Russian collusion between Trump and Russia.

Obama’s direct knowledge of the details of Flynn’s wiretapped calls even shocked his then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates. Obama had fired Flynn as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014 in order to protect Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran. Evidence that the Obama administration intended to catch Flynn in a perjury trap or get him fired was also exposed, prompting Trump’s Department of Justice to drop the case against Flynn. And Obama’s direct knowledge of the attempt to railroad Flynn proved that the effort to undermine Trump went all the way to the top.

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Jan 28, 2021 15:42:02   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
More of your usual drivel. Get a life or a job.

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Jan 28, 2021 15:56:25   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Or both

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Jan 28, 2021 15:56:55   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
John_F wrote:
More of your usual drivel. Get a life or a job.

How is it 'drivel'? Impeachment is for a government official, not a private citizen. If private citizen Trump can be impeached with ZERO due process over some words he spoke then private citizen Obama can be impeached for his actions and words also. See how that works?

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Jan 28, 2021 16:14:40   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Fotoartist wrote:
If it is a good idea to impeach and try former presidents, what about former Democrat presidents when Republicans get the majority? Think about it and let’s do what is best for the country.

First up, what about Obama's "war on cops." Seeing as Democrats say that Trump's rhetoric 'incited an insurrection' at the U.S. Capitol as the primary reason for their second bogus impeachment, it's more than fair to say that Obama should be equally held accountable for his rhetoric as president which inspired a war on cops, resulting in a spike in assassinations of police officers nationwide. Among those who were lost in the attacks were five Dallas police officers murdered in an attack in 2016.

The second-most important article of impeachment against Obama should be the IRS targeting scandal, which former IRS official Lois Lerner confirmed actually happened. Not only were tea party groups improperly targeted, according to documents obtained by Judicial Watch, but the whole scheme was also orchestrated out of Washington, D.C. There was also evidence of White House involvement. Then-IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman was at the White House at least 157 times while the IRS was targeting tea party groups.

Third, Obama agreed to "illegal treaties" without the consent of the Senate, the Iran Nuclear Deal and Paris Climate Accords, both of which met the requirements for an international treaty. However, Obama refused to submit them to the Senate presumably because he knew they would be shot down. So he simply implemented in apparent violation of the Constitution.

Fourth, Obama violated at least four federal laws back in 2010, for offering then-congressman Joe Sestak, D-Pa., a job in his administration in exchange for not challenging Arlen Specter for the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate. Bribery is a crime, and Barack Obama committed it. At the same time, Obama illegally fired Gerald Walpin, the inspector general for the Corporation for National and Community Service after Walpin investigated Obama's friend and donor, Kevin Johnson.

Fifth, in 2014, 47 of 73 inspectors general wrote to Congress charging "the Obama administration was obstructing investigations by not giving them full access to the information they need." Such systemic corruption would have been considered an impeachable [offense] for almost any other president.

Sixth, Obama spied on the news media, demanding two months of phone records from some Associated Press reporters and editors. Reporter James Rosen of Fox News, even was threatened with jail time when the Obama Justice Department labeled him a 'co-conspirator' with one of his sources.

Seventh, Obama's "illegal war in Libya" started by bypassing Congress's authority. The Benghazi attack cover-up was next. Four Americans, including the ambassador, were murdered in Benghazi in an orchestrated terror assault. But Obama's administration, instead "called it a spontaneous demonstration" in order "to hide the fact it was a pre-planned terror attack and that they were grossly unprepared."

The Obama administration, including then-Vice President Joe Biden, "obstructed" an investigation by Congress. Officials then jailed an innocent man, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, whose film "The Innocence of Muslims" was pulled out of anonymity and blamed for the attack.

And finally, there's Obamagate and the attempted coup on a duly elected president.

The spying on President Trump’s campaign alone [that is] is chock full of abuses of power and illegal activity. The Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign based on a bogus dossier funded by the Hillary campaign. The Obama administration used the dossier, that they knew was Russian disinformation ginned up to distract from Hillary’s email scandal, to obtain a FISA warrant even though they never had any empirical evidence of collusion. Further, evidence that Russia actually preferred Hillary over Trump was allegedly suppressed by Obama’s CIA Director John Brennan. The Obamagate scandal runs deep, wide, and dirty.

And Obama was aware that his administration was spying on Trump’s incoming National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, whose communications with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were illegally leaked to the media to bolster the bogus claims of Russian collusion between Trump and Russia.

Obama’s direct knowledge of the details of Flynn’s wiretapped calls even shocked his then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates. Obama had fired Flynn as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014 in order to protect Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran. Evidence that the Obama administration intended to catch Flynn in a perjury trap or get him fired was also exposed, prompting Trump’s Department of Justice to drop the case against Flynn. And Obama’s direct knowledge of the attempt to railroad Flynn proved that the effort to undermine Trump went all the way to the top.

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Jan 28, 2021 16:19:06   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
skylane5sp wrote:
How is it 'drivel'? Impeachment is for a government official, not a private citizen. If private citizen Trump can be impeached with ZERO due process over some words he spoke then private citizen Obama can be impeached for his actions and words also. See how that works?

Oh boy, how soon they forget.

Trump was not a private citizen when he was impeached for the 2nd time. He was still in office.

What will happen in a couple of weeks would be a trial for conviction and perhaps a ban on ever holding office again. Some Republicans with aspirations for running in 2024 would probably be happy with the latter part of that.

See how it works now?

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Jan 28, 2021 16:29:13   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Fotoartist wrote:
If it is a good idea to impeach and try former presidents, what about former Democrat presidents when Republicans get the majority? Think about it and let’s do what is best for the country.

First up, what about Obama's "war on cops." Seeing as Democrats say that Trump's rhetoric 'incited an insurrection' at the U.S. Capitol as the primary reason for their second bogus impeachment, it's more than fair to say that Obama should be equally held accountable for his rhetoric as president which inspired a war on cops, resulting in a spike in assassinations of police officers nationwide. Among those who were lost in the attacks were five Dallas police officers murdered in an attack in 2016.

The second-most important article of impeachment against Obama should be the IRS targeting scandal, which former IRS official Lois Lerner confirmed actually happened. Not only were tea party groups improperly targeted, according to documents obtained by Judicial Watch, but the whole scheme was also orchestrated out of Washington, D.C. There was also evidence of White House involvement. Then-IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman was at the White House at least 157 times while the IRS was targeting tea party groups.

Third, Obama agreed to "illegal treaties" without the consent of the Senate, the Iran Nuclear Deal and Paris Climate Accords, both of which met the requirements for an international treaty. However, Obama refused to submit them to the Senate presumably because he knew they would be shot down. So he simply implemented in apparent violation of the Constitution.

Fourth, Obama violated at least four federal laws back in 2010, for offering then-congressman Joe Sestak, D-Pa., a job in his administration in exchange for not challenging Arlen Specter for the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate. Bribery is a crime, and Barack Obama committed it. At the same time, Obama illegally fired Gerald Walpin, the inspector general for the Corporation for National and Community Service after Walpin investigated Obama's friend and donor, Kevin Johnson.

Fifth, in 2014, 47 of 73 inspectors general wrote to Congress charging "the Obama administration was obstructing investigations by not giving them full access to the information they need." Such systemic corruption would have been considered an impeachable [offense] for almost any other president.

Sixth, Obama spied on the news media, demanding two months of phone records from some Associated Press reporters and editors. Reporter James Rosen of Fox News, even was threatened with jail time when the Obama Justice Department labeled him a 'co-conspirator' with one of his sources.

Seventh, Obama's "illegal war in Libya" started by bypassing Congress's authority. The Benghazi attack cover-up was next. Four Americans, including the ambassador, were murdered in Benghazi in an orchestrated terror assault. But Obama's administration, instead "called it a spontaneous demonstration" in order "to hide the fact it was a pre-planned terror attack and that they were grossly unprepared."

The Obama administration, including then-Vice President Joe Biden, "obstructed" an investigation by Congress. Officials then jailed an innocent man, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, whose film "The Innocence of Muslims" was pulled out of anonymity and blamed for the attack.

And finally, there's Obamagate and the attempted coup on a duly elected president.

The spying on President Trump’s campaign alone [that is] is chock full of abuses of power and illegal activity. The Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign based on a bogus dossier funded by the Hillary campaign. The Obama administration used the dossier, that they knew was Russian disinformation ginned up to distract from Hillary’s email scandal, to obtain a FISA warrant even though they never had any empirical evidence of collusion. Further, evidence that Russia actually preferred Hillary over Trump was allegedly suppressed by Obama’s CIA Director John Brennan. The Obamagate scandal runs deep, wide, and dirty.

And Obama was aware that his administration was spying on Trump’s incoming National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, whose communications with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were illegally leaked to the media to bolster the bogus claims of Russian collusion between Trump and Russia.

Obama’s direct knowledge of the details of Flynn’s wiretapped calls even shocked his then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates. Obama had fired Flynn as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014 in order to protect Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran. Evidence that the Obama administration intended to catch Flynn in a perjury trap or get him fired was also exposed, prompting Trump’s Department of Justice to drop the case against Flynn. And Obama’s direct knowledge of the attempt to railroad Flynn proved that the effort to undermine Trump went all the way to the top.

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Was Obama even born in the USA?

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Jan 28, 2021 18:15:46   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
The Constitution spells out what actions are ‘impeachable.’ So take all of your Obama claims and pass them thru the Constitution definition. Just because you do not like what Obama chivied does not make them impeachable.

skylane5sp wrote:
How is it 'drivel'? Impeachment is for a government official, not a private citizen. If private citizen Trump can be impeached with ZERO due process over some words he spoke then private citizen Obama can be impeached for his actions and words also. See how that works?

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Jan 28, 2021 18:33:52   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
Blah, Blah, Blak.. Lock up Hillary too while you're at it......

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Jan 28, 2021 19:17:52   #
National Park
 
Garbage.

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Jan 28, 2021 21:21:19   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
flip1948 wrote:
See how it works now?

Nope. And apparently neither do you. Because if you did you'd be asking about the complete lack of required due process.

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Jan 28, 2021 21:53:27   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
John_F wrote:
The Constitution spells out what actions are ‘impeachable.’ So take all of your Obama claims and pass them thru the Constitution definition. Just because you do not like what Obama chivied does not make them impeachable.

And what 'actions' might those be?

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Jan 28, 2021 22:00:38   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Fotoartist wrote:
If it is a good idea to impeach and try former presidents, what about former Democrat presidents when Republicans get the majority? Think about it and let’s do what is best for the country.

First up, what about Obama's "war on cops." Seeing as Democrats say that Trump's rhetoric 'incited an insurrection' at the U.S. Capitol as the primary reason for their second bogus impeachment, it's more than fair to say that Obama should be equally held accountable for his rhetoric as president which inspired a war on cops, resulting in a spike in assassinations of police officers nationwide. Among those who were lost in the attacks were five Dallas police officers murdered in an attack in 2016.

The second-most important article of impeachment against Obama should be the IRS targeting scandal, which former IRS official Lois Lerner confirmed actually happened. Not only were tea party groups improperly targeted, according to documents obtained by Judicial Watch, but the whole scheme was also orchestrated out of Washington, D.C. There was also evidence of White House involvement. Then-IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman was at the White House at least 157 times while the IRS was targeting tea party groups.

Third, Obama agreed to "illegal treaties" without the consent of the Senate, the Iran Nuclear Deal and Paris Climate Accords, both of which met the requirements for an international treaty. However, Obama refused to submit them to the Senate presumably because he knew they would be shot down. So he simply implemented in apparent violation of the Constitution.

Fourth, Obama violated at least four federal laws back in 2010, for offering then-congressman Joe Sestak, D-Pa., a job in his administration in exchange for not challenging Arlen Specter for the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate. Bribery is a crime, and Barack Obama committed it. At the same time, Obama illegally fired Gerald Walpin, the inspector general for the Corporation for National and Community Service after Walpin investigated Obama's friend and donor, Kevin Johnson.

Fifth, in 2014, 47 of 73 inspectors general wrote to Congress charging "the Obama administration was obstructing investigations by not giving them full access to the information they need." Such systemic corruption would have been considered an impeachable [offense] for almost any other president.

Sixth, Obama spied on the news media, demanding two months of phone records from some Associated Press reporters and editors. Reporter James Rosen of Fox News, even was threatened with jail time when the Obama Justice Department labeled him a 'co-conspirator' with one of his sources.

Seventh, Obama's "illegal war in Libya" started by bypassing Congress's authority. The Benghazi attack cover-up was next. Four Americans, including the ambassador, were murdered in Benghazi in an orchestrated terror assault. But Obama's administration, instead "called it a spontaneous demonstration" in order "to hide the fact it was a pre-planned terror attack and that they were grossly unprepared."

The Obama administration, including then-Vice President Joe Biden, "obstructed" an investigation by Congress. Officials then jailed an innocent man, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, whose film "The Innocence of Muslims" was pulled out of anonymity and blamed for the attack.

And finally, there's Obamagate and the attempted coup on a duly elected president.

The spying on President Trump’s campaign alone [that is] is chock full of abuses of power and illegal activity. The Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign based on a bogus dossier funded by the Hillary campaign. The Obama administration used the dossier, that they knew was Russian disinformation ginned up to distract from Hillary’s email scandal, to obtain a FISA warrant even though they never had any empirical evidence of collusion. Further, evidence that Russia actually preferred Hillary over Trump was allegedly suppressed by Obama’s CIA Director John Brennan. The Obamagate scandal runs deep, wide, and dirty.

And Obama was aware that his administration was spying on Trump’s incoming National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, whose communications with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were illegally leaked to the media to bolster the bogus claims of Russian collusion between Trump and Russia.

Obama’s direct knowledge of the details of Flynn’s wiretapped calls even shocked his then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates. Obama had fired Flynn as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014 in order to protect Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran. Evidence that the Obama administration intended to catch Flynn in a perjury trap or get him fired was also exposed, prompting Trump’s Department of Justice to drop the case against Flynn. And Obama’s direct knowledge of the attempt to railroad Flynn proved that the effort to undermine Trump went all the way to the top.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but once an elected official is out of office, they can't be impeached. That horse has left the barn!

The impeachment has to occur BEFORE they're out of office.

Yes, trump was impeached before his term in office ended which means that the trump trial in the Senate can and will go on.

But your wish list of former Democratic presidents that you want to impeach is never going to be anything more than a wet dream in your mind.

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Jan 28, 2021 22:35:21   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but once an elected official is out of office, they can't be impeached. That horse has left the barn!

The impeachment has to occur BEFORE they're out of office.

Yes, trump was impeached before his term in office ended which means that the trump trial in the Senate can and will go on.

But your wish list of former Democratic presidents that you want to impeach is never going to be anything more than a wet dream in your mind.


Why are you Constitutional scholars so sure of yourself?

If anyone were asked last year can President Trump be tried for Impeachment after he has left office I will bet almost no one would say yes. But that is exactly what is going to happen now.

See how the law evolves and the goalposts move? You guys are not strict Constitutionalists are you? And naively think the Constitution applies as written. So how can you say in two years Impeaching can't take place? What is wrong with you? Are you strict Constitutionalists or not?

P.S. Alan Dershowitz seems to think that it could happen.

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Jan 28, 2021 22:42:54   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
John_F wrote:
The Constitution spells out what actions are ‘impeachable.’ So take all of your Obama claims and pass them thru the Constitution definition. Just because you do not like what Obama chivied does not make them impeachable.


You don't believe he incited insurrection against the police?

You don't think he was part of an attempted overthrow of a duly elected president?

You don't think he committed bribes to further himself?

You don't think using a government agency, the IRS to prosecute your political foes is not an impeachable offense?

OK, Sherlock, go back in the basement.

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