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Jan 16, 2021 23:21:03   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
Scientists have test different species of birds in an attempt to learn just how intelligent they are. Crows are one of the most common birds tested. The principle of "Crow Epistemology" evolved where it was determined that crows can recall when three or less hunters go into a blind, the crows know if they have all come out or not. When four or more hunters go into the same blind, the crows are confused as to whether all of the hunters have come out or not. In the attached image, the bright eyed appearance of the bird suggests alertness and possibly intelligence. Would someone willing to share their knowledge about birds, please tell me what breed and sex this bird is?


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Jan 16, 2021 23:29:11   #
Rtaylor Loc: Pleasanton ca
 
Male house finch.

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Jan 16, 2021 23:30:03   #
unlucky2 Loc: Hemet Ca.
 
male house finch

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Jan 16, 2021 23:42:20   #
jak86094
 
Shooter41 wrote:
Scientists have test different species of birds in an attempt to learn just how intelligent they are. Crows are one of the most common birds tested. The principle of "Crow Epistemology" evolved where it was determined that crows can recall when three or less hunters go into a blind, the crows know if they have all come out or not. When four or more hunters go into the same blind, the crows are confused as to whether all of the hunters have come out or not. In the attached image, the bright eyed appearance of the bird suggests alertness and possibly intelligence. Would someone willing to share their knowledge about birds, please tell me what breed and sex this bird is?
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You might want to pick up a very interesting book that discussed all sorts of interesting information about birds, their behavior and habits. It's by David Sibley, a well known bird expert and artist, called "WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A BIRD." A subtitle explains, "What Birds Are Doing, and Why." Very interesting reading. jak

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Jan 16, 2021 23:45:42   #
MSW
 
University of Washington (i think it was) did an experiment with crows .. they wore a Dick Nixon masks and the crows recogized the wearer even when the mask was turned upside down.

here's a link:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/uw-professor-learns-crows-dont-forget-a-face/

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Jan 17, 2021 00:08:03   #
ELNikkor
 
(house finches eat seeds...)

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Jan 17, 2021 03:12:03   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Shooter41 wrote:
Scientists have test different species of birds in an attempt to learn just how intelligent they are. Crows are one of the most common birds tested. The principle of "Crow Epistemology" evolved where it was determined that crows can recall when three or less hunters go into a blind, the crows know if they have all come out or not. When four or more hunters go into the same blind, the crows are confused as to whether all of the hunters have come out or not. In the attached image, the bright eyed appearance of the bird suggests alertness and possibly intelligence. Would someone willing to share their knowledge about birds, please tell me what breed and sex this bird is?
Scientists have test different species of birds in... (show quote)


Crows and elephants are the only two known animals other than primates that use thinking to make tools. The African crow seems to be most advanced. I watched video on a captive African crow and how it would take a specific tool after picking out a specific shaped twig, change it for use, and then use it as a tool to get at the otherwise unattainable food. After using this tool, the tool was placed in a clear plastic cage with a totally different mechanism of locking. This African crow, after examining the cage it had never seen before, figured out a way to make a totally different twig tool to get its original tool out of the cage to get more food.

Crows do communicate with each other. If a crow member is hunted and killed in a specific field, the remaining group members will communicate that fact to other passing groups of crows not in their group such that all the groups will avoid that field for two or three years.

I know of another story where several crows were in a tree just communicating with each other. One of their members flew to the tree next to it and found a hole in the tree. After examining the hole, it went into the hole, stuck its head, gave a distress call, and then hid in the hole. All the other member flew to the tree, looked around, found nothing, and flew back to the original tree. The hiding crow stuck out its head and repeated what it had done before. All the crows flew to the tree, quizzically looked around again, and then flew back to the original tree again. Again the hidden crow called and again they all flew to the tree. They looked around very confused - until the hidden crow popped out of the hole. Then they all broke out in crow laughter and all flew back to the original tree.

Also, I concur with the House Finch ID.

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Jan 17, 2021 08:27:10   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
As I was driving down the highway early one morning I could see way up ahead two crows picking at some road-kill. I expected them to fly off as I approached. Instead, they each picked up their end of the carcass and hopped off to the side of the road, carrying the carcass with them. While animals may shares tasks, such as nest-building, tunnel-building, etc., I don't know if I ever saw two animals working cooperatively like this before.

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Jan 17, 2021 08:35:24   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Rtaylor wrote:
Male house finch.



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Jan 17, 2021 08:36:49   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
Someone mentioned to me that crows/ravens have the intelligence close to some of the primates. I had been commenting on the variety of ravens vocabulary.

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Jan 17, 2021 08:55:36   #
Iron Sight Loc: Utah
 
I get a kick out of how they hide in the brush when I'm trying to photograph. As i approach they are fantastically positioned for capture then in a few moments the theory seems to be if I cannot see him he cannot see me.

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Jan 17, 2021 11:52:36   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
jak86094 wrote:
You might want to pick up a very interesting book that discussed all sorts of interesting information about birds, their behavior and habits. It's by David Sibley, a well known bird expert and artist, called "WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A BIRD." A subtitle explains, "What Birds Are Doing, and Why." Very interesting reading. jak


Dear Jack...I want to thank you personally for your recommendation for me to check out David Sibley's book about birds and not coming down hard on me for lacking knowledge about the diet of the house finch. I grew up in Kansas and watched Robins hunt for worms and feed them to their chicks, so I made the dumb mistake of thinking all birds probably eat worms. I really appreciate your positive attitude especially during the pandemic when we all need to help each other. I am ordering the book on your recommendation and continuing to expand my knowledge about birds and photography. I am hoping you are open to our becoming photo buddies. If you ever make it to Kansas I may be able to return the favor if you want to shoot indoor soccer, high action images.


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Jan 17, 2021 12:01:07   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
Perhaps this image and text is more accurate than the first one implying that House Finches eat worms.


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Jan 17, 2021 14:26:27   #
ShelbyDave Loc: Lone Rock, WI
 
That is one of the reasons I like this site, people are interested in helping others gain knowledge instead of tearing someone down. I'm guessing that we all owe administration a thanks for this being true. If it were not true I wouldn't be here anymore! Love UHH.

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Jan 17, 2021 14:47:10   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
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