Image Quality from Flagship Cameras
Jan 16, 2021 05:48:37 #
rit z wrote:
No. 2 has the sharpest detail
Agreed.
It has the highest resolution to my eye - but only on high magnification.
Jan 16, 2021 05:54:58 #
Ysarex, are these all taken with the same lens; just different bodies?
Under magnification, #2 has the highest resolution to my eye.
But without that, it's 'a wash'...
Interesting!
Under magnification, #2 has the highest resolution to my eye.
But without that, it's 'a wash'...
Interesting!
Jan 16, 2021 07:32:16 #
Ysarex wrote:
Camera #2 is a Canon G7xmkii compact with it's fixed zoom lens. This is a 1" sensor camera with a 20 megapixel sensor. The photo was taken with the lens at f/3.5.
Ysarex wrote:
You're correct about #2 having more sharpening applied, it wasn't a lot but again as my goal was to match the three as close as I could I did apply different amounts of sharpening. ....
The crop factor for the 1" sensor is 2.8.
To compare a 40mm lens at f/8 to the smaller camera sensor would have called for a focal length of 14.3mm and f/2.8. That would have resulted in about the same DOF.
Since everyone seemed to be stuck on sharpness your comparison was biased towards the smaller camera by the aperture setting and the fact that you processed that image with additional sharpening.
Jan 16, 2021 07:46:25 #
Jan 16, 2021 10:08:08 #
Ysarex wrote:
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I'm curious if you see something that makes one of them stand out.
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I'm curious if you see something that makes one of them stand out.
Nope.
Jan 16, 2021 10:33:30 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
WCS wrote:
Ysarex, are these all taken with the same lens; just different bodies?
Under magnification, #2 has the highest resolution to my eye.
But without that, it's 'a wash'...
Interesting!
Under magnification, #2 has the highest resolution to my eye.
But without that, it's 'a wash'...
Interesting!
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Jan 16, 2021 13:55:41 #
Greetings!
As a landscape and product photographer, my main criteria in my images are composition, lighting, detail, and image sharpness. Though I can't say that I use a "flagship" body, I find that the Nikon Z7, with the stellar Nikkor S lenses, a solid Leofoto tripod, and good technique, give me images that meet my stringent criteria listed above. I've made 24" x 36" prints with a nice amount of detail. That said, I also believe that good results can be obtained with "lesser" gear...ultimately depending on the skill level of the photographer. Thank you, and Be Safe!
As a landscape and product photographer, my main criteria in my images are composition, lighting, detail, and image sharpness. Though I can't say that I use a "flagship" body, I find that the Nikon Z7, with the stellar Nikkor S lenses, a solid Leofoto tripod, and good technique, give me images that meet my stringent criteria listed above. I've made 24" x 36" prints with a nice amount of detail. That said, I also believe that good results can be obtained with "lesser" gear...ultimately depending on the skill level of the photographer. Thank you, and Be Safe!
Jan 16, 2021 14:26:06 #
I would not be able to tell the difference. They all look equally sharp and the color is the same. Johnny
Jan 16, 2021 19:17:59 #
No. 2 is sharpest at the edge of the books, but not the sharpest on the corner of the table top. If you hadn't said they were from different cameras, I would think they all came from the same camera due to the colors being so much alike.
Jerry Ashcraft
Jerry Ashcraft
Jan 16, 2021 20:28:56 #
Jeffcs
Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
Put nearly any camera/lens in the hands of someone who knows how to make photographs that’s the difference
Serious photographers generally will purchase better equipment so when your looking at better images your associating “better” images with better cameras while beginners will purchase less expensive gear so you look at those images and associate likewise
Serious photographers generally will purchase better equipment so when your looking at better images your associating “better” images with better cameras while beginners will purchase less expensive gear so you look at those images and associate likewise
Jan 17, 2021 12:12:08 #
One theme in all this is better photographer = better picture = overcomes equipment.
With this in mind, only real tests would be objective tests like some I've seen in magazines rating new cameras and lens. This requires, if like everything else in testing, sophisticated equipment, i.e., expensive, and still would not satisfy everything. A test showing a camera to be better at some level that someone can not see or cards about is worth what to that person, but maybe everything to someone else doing something else.
For example, here noise is of concern mainly in low light conditions, but for astronomers it is one of the primary concerns. All the best cameras use ship coolers to power temps to say -40C below ambient. They also shoot multiple types of calibration shots to remove noise (similar to noise reduction in DSLRs), light (even white light over sensor) empty sky, etc., to remove noise, not pixels, etc. They diether the camera to improve resolution.
Apply some of this to the question of noise would require each camera to be allowed to be on for a specific lengthy of time, etc. to get equivilent internal thermal noise etc.
For me, I find the discussion very useful and educational, but the broader view is the most useful, i.e., not DSLR has the lowest noise, but where significant differences exist.
With this in mind, only real tests would be objective tests like some I've seen in magazines rating new cameras and lens. This requires, if like everything else in testing, sophisticated equipment, i.e., expensive, and still would not satisfy everything. A test showing a camera to be better at some level that someone can not see or cards about is worth what to that person, but maybe everything to someone else doing something else.
For example, here noise is of concern mainly in low light conditions, but for astronomers it is one of the primary concerns. All the best cameras use ship coolers to power temps to say -40C below ambient. They also shoot multiple types of calibration shots to remove noise (similar to noise reduction in DSLRs), light (even white light over sensor) empty sky, etc., to remove noise, not pixels, etc. They diether the camera to improve resolution.
Apply some of this to the question of noise would require each camera to be allowed to be on for a specific lengthy of time, etc. to get equivilent internal thermal noise etc.
For me, I find the discussion very useful and educational, but the broader view is the most useful, i.e., not DSLR has the lowest noise, but where significant differences exist.
Jan 17, 2021 12:14:30 #
Jan 17, 2021 12:24:07 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
The best camera is the one you can't afford.
The same is true for telescopes even in the amateur class, and astro cameras.
Jan 17, 2021 13:30:31 #
Jan 17, 2021 20:22:02 #
xt2
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
Zeke4351 wrote:
This might have been discussed somewhere before bu... (show quote)
Good for you! So many photographers have GAS and find the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence (brand). It is wonderful you are so happy with your gear!
Cheers!
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