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Jan 13, 2021 05:21:26   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've been driving for a long, long time, and I've never had a license plate stolen, nor have I heard of anyone having one stolen. Looking on Amazon, most of the license plate bolts and screws are like locking lug nuts on cars. You need a special wrench to put them on and off. It looks like all the wrenches are the same, so a ring of international license plate thieves would just have to spend $15 for the wrench, and they'd be all set. And no one would ever lose that special little Allen wrench, right?
I've been driving for a long, long time, and I've ... (show quote)


Actually the screws are called Torx-tamper proof, you can buy a cheap set of bits for less than $15
I had a plate stolen and a sticker many years ago, now days the stickers are designed to tear apart when some one tries to remove them.
The thief looks for the easy score, plates with these screws would make them move on to something easier.

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Jan 13, 2021 07:27:14   #
Fayle Loc: Seward, Alaska and Rionegro, Colombia
 
A dab of 5 minute epoxy on each screw head prevents any tool from working.

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Jan 13, 2021 09:27:05   #
sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
 
Scruples wrote:
Once a car is stolen, one of the easiest ways to track it is by the license plate. That was a why crackheads steal license plates.
The use of these TORX wrenches make it harder for the garden variety type thief of stealing the plates. So now the professionals steal the plates to sell the cars. Make it harder for anyone to steal the plates by giving the screw a little squirt of Crazy Glue. They will need a jack hammer to remove the screws!!!


Crazy Glue not really! Just a little more torque on the screw will brake it loose, red loctite a lot of difference.

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Jan 13, 2021 09:56:33   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Never had a plate stolen and never had a plate installed with any of the fancy "security" hardware. When I needed to change a plate I got my set of hex drivers since all my plates were attached with screws with a hex head.

I had an old truck. The bumper rusted to the point where it would not pass inspection. The inspection guy said "just put something there. Anything at all". So I got an oak log. Used the chainsaw to carve out a flat space in the middle for the license plate. Had to use a large drill to install the plate lighting. Attached the plate with lag bolts.

I thought the log looked much better since I left the bark on. At about 8" in diameter, it was stronger than the original bumper.

If you think you need security hardware for your plate, you might just consider metric hardware.

Another fastener I have not seen a driver for is a screw that has what looks like a phillips drive, but the teeth in the driver do not form a cross. They are offset so there's a little jog in the middle. They are used on aircraft. In grad school we built a piece of equipment to be installed on a research aircraft. They required that sort of hardware so we had to redesign our equipment to use it. There would be a right and and a left hand version.

Rough drawing
Rough drawing...

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Jan 13, 2021 10:42:17   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've been driving for a long, long time, and I've never had a license plate stolen, nor have I heard of anyone having one stolen. Looking on Amazon, most of the license plate bolts and screws are like locking lug nuts on cars. You need a special wrench to put them on and off. It looks like all the wrenches are the same, so a ring of international license plate thieves would just have to spend $15 for the wrench, and they'd be all set. And no one would ever lose that special little Allen wrench, right?
I've been driving for a long, long time, and I've ... (show quote)


What everyone is missing is the mind set of the thief.
With the advent of Aluminum lic. plates they no longer need a screw driver, they can rip the plates off and reinstall with washers over the torn out holes. If they can't they will just steal another.

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Jan 13, 2021 10:45:39   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Never had a plate stolen and never had a plate installed with any of the fancy "security" hardware. When I needed to change a plate I got my set of hex drivers since all my plates were attached with screws with a hex head.

I had an old truck. The bumper rusted to the point where it would not pass inspection. The inspection guy said "just put something there. Anything at all". So I got an oak log. Used the chainsaw to carve out a flat space in the middle for the license plate. Had to use a large drill to install the plate lighting. Attached the plate with lag bolts.

I thought the log looked much better since I left the bark on. At about 8" in diameter, it was stronger than the original bumper.

If you think you need security hardware for your plate, you might just consider metric hardware.

Another fastener I have not seen a driver for is a screw that has what looks like a phillips drive, but the teeth in the driver do not form a cross. They are offset so there's a little jog in the middle. They are used on aircraft. In grad school we built a piece of equipment to be installed on a research aircraft. They required that sort of hardware so we had to redesign our equipment to use it. There would be a right and and a left hand version.
Never had a plate stolen and never had a plate ins... (show quote)

Hell I can get that screw out without a screw driver
Tools needed: a hammer and a small punch!!!

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Jan 13, 2021 11:53:16   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Scruples wrote:
Once a car is stolen, one of the easiest ways to track it is by the license plate. That was a why crackheads steal license plates.
The use of these TORX wrenches make it harder for the garden variety type thief of stealing the plates. So now the professionals steal the plates to sell the cars. Make it harder for anyone to steal the plates by giving the screw a little squirt of Crazy Glue. They will need a jack hammer to remove the screws!!!


"They will need a jack hammer to remove the screws!!!" So will you when a new tag is issued.

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Jan 13, 2021 12:06:38   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
So the real thing to do is look at your plates regularly so you can report a theft in a timely manner.

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Jan 13, 2021 12:06:55   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The two Honda Fits we bought had locks on the wheels, with a hefty charge added to the price of the car. I had them removed. If I want locks, I can buy them for a fraction of the price the dealer charges.
I bought a used car from on a car auction several years ago (still have it). It had one locking lug nut on each wheel which I wasn't aware of until I had a flat tire and had to call AAA to change the tire. And of course, since it was an auction car it didn't have the key to remove the lug nut. Had to have the car flatbedded (is that a word?) to the tire shop to have the lug nut removed. Had them remove all four of them.
It also had a locking gas cap without the key, of course. But that was easy to remove thanks to a YouTube video. Now I wonder what the point of the locking gas cap is if it is that easy to remove without the key.

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Jan 13, 2021 12:54:29   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
I bought a used car from on a car auction several years ago (still have it). It had one locking lug nut on each wheel which I wasn't aware of until I had a flat tire and had to call AAA to change the tire. And of course, since it was an auction car it didn't have the key to remove the lug nut. Had to have the car flatbedded (is that a word?) to the tire shop to have the lug nut removed. Had them remove all four of them.
It also had a locking gas cap without the key, of course. But that was easy to remove thanks to a YouTube video. Now I wonder what the point of the locking gas cap is if it is that easy to remove without the key.
I bought a used car from on a car auction several ... (show quote)


To keep honest people honest as with any lock.

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Jan 13, 2021 13:01:10   #
jimvanells Loc: Augusta, GA
 
It really doesn't matter how sophisticated the head of the bolt is. In two weeks that new design will be at Harbor Freight for 99 cents.

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Jan 14, 2021 04:27:49   #
Smokin' Joe
 
Had a rear plate stolen from motorhome parked in my yard, Paradise, CA . Pretty brazen. Reported it about 2 years ago.

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