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Jan 1, 2021 21:34:21   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
scooter1 wrote:
You need to re check your facts. Yes it is true. Ask the secret service who have been setting up at his residence in Florida.

https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/neighbors-warn-trump-against-trying-to-use-mar-a-lago-resort-as-post-presidency-residence-threaten-legal-action/

trump gave up the chance to live at Mar-A-Lago year round in a 1993 agreement he signed when he petitioned to change the property into a "Club".

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Jan 2, 2021 06:28:09   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
scooter1 wrote:
That's how it has been for liberals for 4 years. I have seen everything he is referencing and also believe it will happen. If it is indeed voter fraud perpetrated by liberal politicians then we should all be happy it is coming out. If not then we've not lost $40 mil like the fake Russian collusion.

Why do you lie?

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/09/feds-bank-battle-over-manaforts-assets-042176

The ESTIMATE you claim is about $8 Million higher than the actual costs.

"Mueller's investigation ran up about $32 million in direct and indirect costs before wrapping up in May"

At last look, the Feds and the banks were arguing over just how much money the Feds would be entitled to once the properties sold.


Even though trump pardoned Manafort, that didn't erase Manafort's debts.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8340849/Paul-Manafort-faces-losing-house-vast-property-empire-failing-pay-taxes.html

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Jan 2, 2021 06:47:36   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
tradio wrote:
I have to agree 100%
I want whomever won the election in office. Any cheating should be considered treason and dealt with as such.

There is a huge difference between being a TRAITOR, and treason!

trump has been a traitor to the United States, but his actions haven’t met the definition of treason yet!

trai·tor
/ˈtrādər/
noun
a person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc.
"they see me as a traitor, a sellout to the enemy"


trea·son
/ˈtrēzən/
noun
the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
"they were convicted of treason"

Although right now, trump is getting close to treason with his repeated attempts to overturn the 2020 Election results!

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Jan 2, 2021 07:15:09   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
......right now, trump is getting close to treason with his repeated attempts to overturn the 2020 Election results!


Have you even considered the possibility that he may have a case?

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Jan 2, 2021 07:18:50   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
There is a huge difference between being a TRAITOR, and treason!

trai·tor

a person who betrays a... country.....


trea·son

the crime of betraying one's country......

Yes, hugh difference

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Jan 2, 2021 07:30:53   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
R.G. wrote:
Have you even considered the possibility that he may have a case?


If only you could present actual evidence instead of yet another yammering charlatan with soiled undies.







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Jan 2, 2021 08:05:32   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
R.G. wrote:
Have you even considered the possibility that he may have a case?

No, trump NEVER had a case!

trump LOST the election by over 7,000,000 votes, and he lost the Electoral College by the very same margin which he won the Electoral College in 2016, which he called a landslide at the time.

So by the very same definition, President-Elect Joe Biden won the 2020 Election in a LANDSLIDE!

Suck it up buttercup, Joe Biden will be sworn in on January 20, 2021 as the 46th President of the United States, and there's nothing that trump can do to change that outcome. NOTHING!

trump has exhausted all of his legal options with at least 59 cases being thrown out of State and Federal Courts, including the Supreme Court where 1/3 of the Justices were appointed by trump.

trump's last ditch attempt will be to try to get the GOP to vote against him during the Electoral College Certification process, but even that will fail on procedural problems.

And trump is rallying his CULT worshipers to decend upon Washington, DC in an attempt to sway the members of Congress to bend to trump's will. Their behaviour will be under an extreme microscope.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9071403/President-Trump-plans-wild-protest-January-6th-day-Congress-counts-electoral-votes.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2021/01/01/trump-offers-new-details-on-wild-rally-to-protest-election-results-and-dc-authorities-are-gearing-up-for-it/

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/531933-dc-hotel-frequently-by-proud-boys-to-close-jan-4-6

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/31/elections-protest-dc-police-brace-donald-trump-demonstrators/4097472001/

https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/dcs-attorney-general-bracing-for-proud-boys-protests/

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-supporters-plan-mass-election-protest-businesses-prepare-possible-violence-1558334

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Jan 2, 2021 08:28:04   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
There is a huge difference between being a TRAITOR, and treason!

trump has been a traitor to the United States, but his actions haven’t met the definition of treason yet!

trai·tor
/ˈtrādər/
noun
a person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc.
"they see me as a traitor, a sellout to the enemy"


trea·son
/ˈtrēzən/
noun
the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
"they were convicted of treason"

Although right now, trump is getting close to treason with his repeated attempts to overturn the 2020 Election results!
There is a huge difference between being a TRAITOR... (show quote)


Trumps actions could easily be considered treason, although not by US law.

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Jan 2, 2021 08:30:54   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
thom w wrote:
Trumps actions could easily be considered treason, although not by US law.

There's enough time between now and noon on January 20, 2021, that trump's actions could cross the line from traitor to treason, depending upon what trump does.

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Jan 2, 2021 08:32:07   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
R.G. wrote:
Have you even considered the possibility that he may have a case?


I guess he could have a case, although he claims that getting through the Vietnam era without "getting a case" was his Vietnam. There are indications that he could have a case and that it is in it's tertiary stage.

You do realize there are psychedelic fungi on the island of Patmos. That would easily explain the book of Revelation.

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Jan 2, 2021 11:13:09   #
FrumCA
 
R.G. wrote:
First off - happy new year everybody. 2021 will be a good year.

The truth is the Democrats were trying to steal an election that Donald Trump won and they are guilty of electoral fraud and vote rigging. If you don't think so you're listening to the wrong people.

Perhaps you're already aware that America's mainstream media has given up even the pretense of being unbiased. Or perhaps you don't realise how blatant the MSM has become. If you're still living in a nice cosy world where you think you can listen to the mainstream media and let them do your thinking for you, you are in for a rude awakening. Corruption and deceit are widespread. Donald Trump will be vindicated and eventually the media will acknowledge what he has done to reverse and expose corruption (also known as draining the swamp). He has also done much to reverse America's economic decline, so don't listen to suggestions that America's economy isn't doing well under him.

I started this thread because I suspect that the mainstream media has most people so brainwashed they aren't even considering the possibility that Donald Trump had a case.
First off - happy new year everybody. 2021 will b... (show quote)


The MSN definitely has the left brainwashed. Most on the right see through the biased opinions that represent the majority of the 'news' being reported.

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Jan 2, 2021 11:31:53   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
DavidSells wrote:
I agree with you 125%...


Always wondered about this (and similar) statements.

Just how is it possible to get more than one hundred percent of ANYTHING?

More than “All” of something (100%) means it is something different!

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Jan 2, 2021 11:32:43   #
denverdon
 
Without some proof of the rigging and stealing, i've been trying to be as informed as I can be. Reading both sides of the equation every day and realizing I have to strike my own middle line with very little help from the media. My suggestion is for the media to be required to separate news and facts from opinion. Maybe the 1st paragraph of each article should be restricted to the news, the everything else could be the opinion of the writer. The saddest part of all of this is the separation it has created in our country, It seems like each of us sets our feet on one side of the line and when that is done, we pee on each other's shoes. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we realized that problem targets are better reached when we walk hand in hand and listen to each other rather than degrade anybody the disagrees with us. Have a blessed and Happy New Year.

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Jan 2, 2021 11:34:08   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
FrumCA wrote:
The MSN definitely has the left brainwashed. Most on the right see through the biased opinions that represent the majority of the 'news' being reported.


Biased opinions and the suggestion that being liberal-minded is the height of virtue.

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Jan 2, 2021 11:38:26   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
Kraken wrote:
Let's face it the only truth out there is the one you

want to hear everything else is BS and fake.


Paul Simon seemed to think so. So did the Rockman.

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