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Dec 27, 2020 00:37:53   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Check out this link. There may be a menu setting in your camera that needs to be set to enable flash synchronization with external speedlights and a studio-type flash system:

https://www.dummies.com/photography/cameras/canon-camera/how-to-control-the-external-speedlite-on-your-canon-eos

Another alternative is to go hard wire, that is obtain a hot shoe to PC sync cord adapter. This will enable hard-wiring to one of your Alien-Bee units, the second unit probably has a built-in photoelectric cell to enable slave operation. Once you have the adapter all to need is a simple long extension cable with a male PC plug at one end and a 1/4" standard "phone" plug to fit the synch socket on one of your monolights.

There is no TTL control interphase with those flash units, so exposure will have to be set manually regardless of how you trigger the flash.
Check out this link. There may be a menu setting ... (show quote)


Thanks very much E.L.. Shapiro for the link. I reviewed it twice and tried to make it work to no avail. I'm not really interested in hard wiring the camera to the AlienBee units I don't want to have anything that I could trip over or have to move around. I did notice that the AlienBee had a phone jack in the back. I'd like the trigger to fire both AlienBees at the same time. I appreciate the effort you have put in to help me out.......thanks!

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Dec 27, 2020 00:45:07   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
jdubu wrote:
I don't use those, but can't believe they will communicate. Does the receiver have an led light that shows when it is triggered? I have a bunch of older mono flash triggers and none cross communicate.


Thanks jdubu.......I may have to buy new compatible triggers that will communicate with each other.

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Dec 27, 2020 00:47:40   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
Haydon wrote:
I don't see a transmitter sitting on top of your camera hotshoe. You have one I take it?


Yes, I just didn't show that photo. It's the Yongnuo RF-603C trigger.
Here is a photo with the Yongnuo RF-603C trigger mounted. I may have to buy new triggers that will communicate to fire the AlienBees.


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Dec 27, 2020 00:59:02   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
I don't know. I use pocket wizards with my alien bees and no problems

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Dec 27, 2020 01:27:41   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
jdubu wrote:
I don't use those, but can't believe they will communicate. Does the receiver have an led light that shows when it is triggered? I have a bunch of older mono flash triggers and none cross communicate.


I'm not sure about the led light that shows when it's triggered.

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Dec 27, 2020 07:20:14   #
CO
 
BrentHarder wrote:
I did notice that the AlienBee had a phone jack in the back. I'd like the trigger to fire both AlienBees at the same time.


You can use the phone jack on the back of the AlienBees with the PocketWizard AC9 and two PocketWizard Flex-TT5 or Flex-TT6 units as described by jdubu on page one. It will allow you to remotely control the AlienBees power level. The PocketWizard Flex units are a little pricey. I have two Flex-TT5's and two Mini-TT1's. The Mini-TT1 is now discontinued.

If you don't need to control the AlienBees power level remotely, you can get a 2-pack of Plus X units and adjust power level with the slider on the AlienBees.

You can trigger the second AlienBee by its photoelectric cell or by attaching another trigger.

I have both the Paul C Buff CyberSync triggers and remotes and the PocketWizard triggers. You can make it work with either system.

PocketWizard Flex-TT5 with PocketWizard AC9 controller
PocketWizard Flex-TT5 with PocketWizard AC9 contro...
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2-pack of PocketWizard Plus X units for basic triggering
2-pack of PocketWizard Plus X units for basic trig...
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Dec 27, 2020 08:24:37   #
Kenneth Pierce Loc: Campbellsville, Kentucky
 
BrentHarder wrote:
Recently I was given two AlienBees 320 WS B800 lights. I've tried everything I can think of (and even went to youtube) and still can't get the lights to flash with my Canon 6D camera. I've tried the test button, and the lights flash. The model lamp works fine. I've tried different combinations of numbers on the triggers that came with the units and that didn't seem to help. The previous owner of the lights was shooting with a Nikon but that shouldn't matter should it? I coordinated the trigger numbers with the numbers on my Yongnuo RF-603C trigger that I use for my speedlights for the camea. I turned the trigger on and my Yongnuo trigger too. I'm going crazy trying to figure this out. I'm hoping that one of you UHH members have a good handle on the AlienBees 320 WS B800 and can solve my non-flash problem!
I'm attaching some photos that may be of some use to solve this problem.
Thanks in advance!
Recently I was given two AlienBees 320 WS B800 lig... (show quote)


Make sure the transmitter and receiver are on the same channel(frequency) if they are compatible.

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Dec 27, 2020 09:13:05   #
uhaas2009
 
The bees have a build in receiver-if you use one of your flash-this can trigger the bees.

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Dec 27, 2020 11:33:55   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Brent, my friend, you need a trigger that works with your specific camera make and model and a receiver that works with that trigger. I do not remember if your lights have a built in receiver, but a quick call to Buff is in order. I have always found them very helpful. Personally, I own a much older set of Buff lights and use a Pocket Wizzard system to trigger them. PM me if you want more info or to talk directly. Best of luck.

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Dec 27, 2020 11:49:20   #
CO
 
uhaas2009 wrote:
The bees have a build in receiver-if you use one of your flash-this can trigger the bees.


That's the photoelectric cell on the back. Any type of flash will trigger it.

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Dec 27, 2020 11:52:20   #
MikeT9
 
Just a silly thought, have you connected the transmitter on the camera with the supplied yongnuo lead. I have the same model that I’ve used with all my canon cameras and to use it as a transmitter you need to connect it to the port on the camera body.

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Dec 27, 2020 12:00:44   #
dandev Loc: Enumclaw, WA
 
Call Paul C Buff. They have very good tech support. (I have 3 Einstein's)

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Dec 27, 2020 12:07:19   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
BrentHarder wrote:
Thank you CO......I will try buying them and seeing if they work. The soft padded bag that the AlienBees came in had "Buff" printed on the bag. I appreciate the time and effort you have given me to help solve my problem. Thank you.


You could probably just get the Goddox trigger/transmitter to match the receivers. Might save you some money.

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Dec 27, 2020 13:12:12   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
This may be a basic concept that has not been discussed. This applies to RADIO based triggering systems. Obviously, many of these brands of remote triggering systems operate on radio frequencies. These frequencies are assigned for R.C. usage in the U.S. by the Federal Communications Commission and in Canada by the communication branch of Industry Canada. This is done to avoid interference to or from these devices with other radios services. There is a range of frequencies used in these systems are usually in the frequency modulation (FM) High-VHF and UHF spectrums, however, they are all not the exact same frequencies for each brand. Some of these systems have the main frequency and may have several sub-frequencies (channels) to enable individual control of various remote units.

The systems that transmit exposure data is a bit more complex. Since the Alien Bees are manual units with no TTL interphase, any of the popular radio-remote trigger systems should work for simple slave operation. Buff, the maker of the Alien Bees makes a very good and reasonably proceed radio system. I have used it with many kinds of cameras. My main radio-trigger system is the Pocket Wizards. I purchased my first set in 1979 and have added it to the system over the years. I have 2 transmitters and 7 receivers- my old ones and latest ones all operat on compatible frequencies. My models do not transmit TTL exposure data- the latest ones do.

The Godox and other imported units are popular and I am sure they will work with your gear, however, I have no personal experience with them.

The Pocket Wizards are extremely robust and reliable. I have triggered lights on industrial sites from 4 city blocks away- never missed a shot. I have used them in buildings with steel-reinforced concrete walls and they work from one room or floor to another.

The hard-wiring approach only requires only one connection between the camera and one of your flash units. The build-in photocells in the other units will respond to the flash. Most photocell operation, however, is oftentimes not reliable in an out-of-doores situation or where the ambient light is extremely bright.

If you decide to stick with radio-slaves, just make certain that the transmitter and receivers are utilizing the same exact frequencies. Frequences assigned to photo flash slave triggers or usually marked on the units r the packaging as per government regulations. If the radio system you select or use has multiple channels, make sure the transmitter and receiver in use are on the same channel. On some makes and models, the channel selector switch is not on the external body of the units- they are located in the battery compartment or concealed under a door or small sliding panel.

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Dec 27, 2020 14:10:38   #
pego101
 
I have a bunch of those same triggers dont use any more very very very unreliable.
Went with Pocket Wizard triggers work every time.



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